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New Solution Can Help 'Permanently Get Rid of Germs'

Posted July 08, 2011 10:00 AM

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A new anti-microbial treatment that can make clothing - including smelly socks - permanently germ-free has been developed by US scientists.

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07/08/2011 12:29 PM

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07/08/2011 1:00 PM

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07/08/2011 4:24 PM

Actually, more like: Beware what you ask for. Or "unintended consequences".

What they are trying to do is good, but we can't live without having a few germs and bacteria in our lives. Nothing in what I read stated specifically (or non specifically), which germs it kills.

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07/08/2011 9:07 PM

Ah, okay. Got it.

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07/08/2011 2:23 PM

Germs are good... we need them to build our immune systems, without them in our lives on a daily basis, our immune system would never be able to build the antibodies it needs to fight infections.

Its actually a good thing to be exposed to many little nasties, especially when we are first developing our bodies at an early age. Kids that are kept in a bubble, safe from germs tend to have numerous allergies, and get sick often. Kids that played in the dirt, with bugs, slugs, and frogs like I did seem to be better equipped later in life to deal with those things without getting infections etc.

Although... I wouldn't mind if I could do away with the smelly socks.

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07/08/2011 3:42 PM

You're absolutely right, this is not the sort of product that should be applied to all clothing everywhere. Dirt (outdoor, garden, wild dirt) is good for you, especially kids, even the exposure to low levels of pathogens within a diverse community of dirt beasties.

But I can see the point of antimicrobial fabric in hospitals, which is where exposure and spread of little (or big?) nasties can lead to fatalities.

As with all antimicrobial treatments, the real question is, how long before the more nasty things become immune to it.

There is a danger in the "kills 99.9 %" business. The 99.9 killer creates an empty niche for superbug 0.1, which then has ample room in which to flourish. This applies to any environment, hospitals included, but in that case, they have to do the best they can because the entire bacterial niche is an onslaught of pathogens, instead of a balance of healthy flora.

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07/10/2011 2:38 AM

"Permanent" = "temporary", anyway.

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07/10/2011 12:55 PM

I agree with the others here that we need the good germs; but I also believe we need the bad germs because they keep our immune systems "fighting fit".

Are there some ultra bad guys we could do without? sure, the flesh eaters for example, although it would be better if our immune systems learned to handle them.

I have never quite understood the fact that we have hospitals that have people sick with germs and surgical people. Logic says that should have ended when germs became understood.

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