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Where do good ideas come from -- REVISITED

Posted June 22, 2007 12:40 AM by mrice@babson.edu

Dear readers:

My wife and I are leaving early tomorrow for a ten day trip to Alaska, so I may be absent for a bit. But I will be back.

This week I'd like to react to some of the threaded discussions that have followed my earlier blogs. In particular, there were some interesting comments in the threaded discussion that followed the blog referenced above.

A couple of reactions:

For five years I served as the director of a technology business incubator. Occasionally someone would show up in my office brimming over with enthusiasm for their good idea (generally neither patented nor patentable), and they would ask how they could collect their reward. I'd gently respond that a good idea is a starting point, but rewards generally only come after someone invests the time, energy and funds to convert the idea into a product or service that customers would pay for and to build a business that could get the product or service to market.

(You might think that patenting avoids all these headaches, but even after a patent is granted, someone has to invest time, energy and funds in marketing the patent to potential licensees. One successful company in the incubator licensed a technology from an IBM inventor for about $500K and then spent several million dollars and a number of years pursuing licensees. Happily they were eventually successful in landing a major Japanese company and it turned out to be a big success.)

This hard reality is why often success comes from creating a team to commercialize the innovation -- whether in a corporate venture or a start up venture. So the technical innovator teams up with an entrepreneur (someone who has similar energy and creativity but applied to building a business rather than a technology.)

In fact before I became incubator director, I was a co-founder of an innovative, technology-driven company that was one of the first companies in the incubator. We had some modest success but were constrained by the weakness of the team -- strong on technology but naive about business.

As a result of that experience, I submitted a short essay during the hiring process for the incubator director that discussed the value of bringing together "technical entrepreneurs" and "business entrepreneurs" who could work together to build both the technology and the business.

It's common to hear the following answer to the question: "For investors, what are the five most important factors in deciding whether to invest in a new venture?"

Answer:

1. The team

2. The team

3. The team

4. The team

5. The attractiveness of the opportunity -- i.e. the fit between the market and the product / service.

So if you aren't getting the support you think you deserve, you might want to consider linking up with someone who has a successful track record of getting support from investors (or if you are working inside a company, from senior managers).

Best wishes.

Mark

P.S Last week I ran an innovation workshop for a billion dollar company and it was both fascinating and frustrating to see and hear all the conflict related to operational excellence (doing the same old stuff) vs. the drive for innovation.

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Re: Where do good ideas come from -- REVISITED

06/22/2007 7:26 PM

Sooo dangerous this one. I am in a house with the Lovely Wife and three daughters. If you were looking at things statistically I have not had a real good idea in the past 20 years or so.

Since that trail of thought is bogus, (I have made it though the past 20 years) some ideas must be good ones. The good ones involve doing things for survival and maintained and of course loving them family.

"Ideas that are good are ones that make something happen that is good" That is opinion, people are doing bad stuff out there and getting away with it all of the time.

Good ideas to me must be the ones that do not harm others and affect that balance of life in a positive way. Good ideas must be the one you think after the Boss has hung up and your comeback in finally in order. That would mean good ideas are afterthoughts, not so good.

Good ideas might be the ones that keep you out of trouble with all of your peers, the Gov, and family, and make a profit. Yep those might be good ideas?

I Dunknow?

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Re: Where do good ideas come from -- REVISITED

06/23/2007 12:02 AM

Wow, this entire (and the previous blog) are a little microcosm of the conversations I have been having with my 18 year old. A picture of relativism vs absolutism: The goodness of a thing being measured by it's impact - so that it's relative goodness is entirely within the context of an individual perspective. Since we are all impacted differently, it's goodness is a distribution across a scale. Since goodness is now a spectrum, defining it now becomes impossible. Rendering almost all things and events indiscernible in goodness or badness from each other.

What mental bubblegum. Good and bad are ethical choices made by those who have free will. Objects do not have free will. Objects are neither good nor bad.

In the engineering environment, an object is "good" if it meets it's required functions, does so with some elegance, is reproduceable / manufacturable, reliable and dependable "enough" - to the engineers.

To marketing the concerns are entirely different, ergo it's "goodness" quotient is different.

Objects are neither good nor are they bad.

Enron was an absolutely amazing machine - wildly misused to bad ends. But I suspect we will have something like Enron in the near future -sans the manipulation of markets - because it was so effective at moving energy in response to demand, and rewarding and punishing energy usage. The machine worked beautifully. Not the machine's fault what humans did when confronted with moral choices.

Effective vs ineffective perhaps would be less unwieldy terms?

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Re: Where do good ideas come from -- REVISITED

06/23/2007 12:51 AM

The long and short of it is that ideas are not going to help unless you have a good team to back you. Bad news for amature inventors! Recently there was another discussion in this forum where an expert opined that investing in a patent too is strictly for the big boys as it takes big money to defend it. So there seems to be little money in ideas unless you have plenty of money or friends with plenty of money.

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Re: Where do good ideas come from -- REVISITED

06/23/2007 8:42 AM

Part of the team, has to be a way [person, organization] to access the available resources.

Many times to access those resources, egos must be stroked.

This is neither good nor bad, it just is.

1 way to move along the path is to do as much of the work as possible for the person w/the access, hold their hand as it were.

How can you help this person receive positive reinforcement, while they expend the least amount of energy possible?

This will probably involve you identifying & providing the knowlege that they lack, in a non threatening way!

The value of long term friendships, cannot be underestimated, people generally are more comfortable working w/people [good ol boys] they know/trust.

Finding an effective mentor/conduit is key.

once you find the good ol boy, you have to show your willingness to do the work!

there will be tests none of the tests will be clearly marked, or have any sort of instructions.

the tests will show your mentor, if trust is increasing or decreasing.

Occasionally a team can be built of equals, each member bringing a needed skill set.

Even such a team will need direction/goals, these goals will need to be both long & short terms

Thinking big is good, but the short term goals are what get the job done.

What can you do right now, today to increase your chances of future success?

There is always something!

Depending on the situation next week, can be long term.

Many times long term goals, will involve organization & structual questions, don't forget to keep thinking about these things.

Failure analyis, will help you define what you should be doing.

Don't reinvent the wheel!

Look @ others success

there is no reason to duplicate efforts by others just for the exercise.

this of course must be balanced

Ask yourself do I/we have more time or money?

Look @ similar ideas/approaches, from other applications

Compare & contrast how the same idea is implemented, for different organizations.

Good organization+OK idea, will beat Great idea+no organization.

How can you provide the members of the team w/the tools/resources to thrive & reach their full potential?

How can the members of the team, be fully engaged w/the process?

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Re: Where do good ideas come from -- REVISITED

06/23/2007 9:20 AM

"Where do good ideas come from -- "

Seems to me this has all been about "Execution" i.e. bringing an idea to fruition.

Ideas, "Innovation"if you will, results from a need, real or perceived.

Many have come about in various parts of the world almost simultaneously. They result from experience, education, training, and or an inquisitive mind that examines each new idea to evaluate it on its merits, rather than accept the mere say so of others.

Very few from someone sitting down and thinking of what new idea can I come up with today.

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Re: Where do good ideas come from -- REVISITED

06/23/2007 1:40 PM

Right on Stirling Stan! Perhaps this thread would be better titled "what to do when a good idea has spontaneously appeared in the midst of a team."

Idea's come from the synthesis of one's knowledge and experience when faced with an apparent need. Team work can be an idea, but teamwork is not a process of ideation. Team work is a means of achieving. I could give you a wonderful description of what it takes to make a team, but frankly, their is so much crap in this area that most of us get from our employers that you would be repelled by the scent... So I'll spare the sermon.

People who are interested in the topic of creativity and where ideas come from should look up 'bricoleur' or 'bricolage' and they 'll get much closer to the source of ideation than the above. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricolage

And by the way, note that in Non engineering circles, new ideas are seen as 'different' from engineering which is (falsely in my experience) seen as merely applying previous knowns to solve a problem. Engineering is at its most creative when new solutions are produced to solve the same old problem- because the environment, needs and constraints today are different.

In my experience the first step of the process of creation of new ideas is to ask 'what if...?'

All other questions merely attempt to elicit description or fact find.

What if?

Followed by honest thought.

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Re: Where do good ideas come from -- REVISITED

06/23/2007 6:52 PM

Good ideas come from within the void amongst the stupid! -A.S. Helliwell

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Re: Where do good ideas come from -- REVISITED

06/23/2007 8:37 PM

Laughter is the foreplay to orgasm! Or, if it ugly and stupid, you can eat it!

Is that fish or cattle

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Re: Where do good ideas come from -- REVISITED

07/01/2007 10:49 PM

Ya, hi! So????? I missed your non point. Perhaps I did not get the entire text? And!....,the Cattle vs Fish if they look stupid, did you eat it?

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Re: Where do good ideas come from -- REVISITED

06/27/2007 9:48 PM

Let me tell you from experience, I have had the mix of Engineering good ideas and Non Engineering ideas.

The Engineering ideas left to fend for themselves and brought to their fruitful conclusions can be sound ideas but impinge little on the reality that is the consensus of those who are paying, you might say.

If I had only taken the time to fill in the missing pieces from those Non Engineering thought paths I would not be in the present pickle I am in today.

It truly takes both kinds to make our society run smoothly. Those who go overboard one way or the other are leaving out the balance that would have made the thought pattern a really good one.

Thinking after the deed is done is so clear.

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Re: Where do good ideas come from -- REVISITED

06/29/2007 2:28 PM

There are two books to be recommended to anyone involved or interested in new ideas, innovations, invention and patents.

The "International Handbook of Innovation" by Larisa V Shavinina. ~$300

The "Oxford Handbook of Innovation" Edited by:Fagerberg, Mowery & Nelson. ~$35

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