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Fact Check: What Henry Ford Meant When He Said “History is bunk”

Posted January 22, 2018 9:00 AM by dstrohl
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Henry Ford was a complex and contradictory man who left behind a sometimes perplexing legacy. And it certainly helps little that his biographers–himself included–have complicated him and his legacy further by layering their own interpretations, obfuscations, and omissions atop biographical facts, confusing many an issue related to him. Ironically, those complications have, today, made it rather difficult to parse what exactly Ford meant when he famously claimed that “history is bunk.”

At least twice in May 1916, with war ravaging Europe and Americans debating whether the country should involve itself, Ford made similar comments in interviews defending his belief in non-intervention. To Charles N. Wheeler of the Chicago Tribune–who published a three-part interview with Ford culminating in the article in question on May 26–Ford said

"History is more or less bunk. It is tradition. We don’t want tradition. We want to live in the present and the only history that is worth a tinker’s dam is the history we make today.

That’s the trouble with the world. We’re living in books and history and tradition. We want to get away from that and take care of today. We’ve done too much looking back. What we want to do and do it quick is to make just history right now."

Parsing the meaning behind the words of an automotive icon.

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01/22/2018 2:22 PM

I think I know what Henry was talking about: we can be so rooted in tradition, there is no room to escape the foibles of past failures (by society).

Henry was working at making history for the common man. Mobility=opportunity, think about it!

Sure, that rewarded Henry Ford in more ways than just one.

Part of what Henry Ford said cannot be true. Not all history is bunk, not even more or less bunk. He have to latch onto the central truths in history that are universal and learn from it, or be doomed to repeat (bad) history.

We are more or less talking about good history here, a different history than the world had seen before, and it is still being made today, and will be tomorrow. The genie is completely out of the bottle and gaining momentum.

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01/22/2018 2:52 PM

I think I said that myself when I was in grade school ... the teacher was not amused!

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01/22/2018 3:04 PM

I think I know what Henry was talking about: we can be so rooted in tradition, there is no room to escape the foibles of past failures (by society).

On top of that, he backed it up,... it wasn't the union that gave the workers a 40 hour work week,... he was Henry Ford himself... he did an efficiency analysis on not only the workers, but as a business end. It was not only more cost effective, but he was able to give them a very good wage (doubled worker's pay from $2.34/hr to $5/hr) ...

which po'd the other car manufacturers and the union stepped in a got credit that they were the ones that gave the 40 hour week it to them.

And it became so efficient, his own workers could afford to buy an automobile. Now that's synergy....

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01/23/2018 7:57 AM

(doubled worker's pay from $2.34/hr to $5/hr) ...

It was $2.34 to $5.00 a day, according to your link.

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01/23/2018 8:10 AM

Thanks for catching that, my mistake,... but he did double it....

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01/23/2018 9:15 AM

There are a lot of good quotes attributed to Henry Ford. This is one I like...

In other words, think outside the box.

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01/25/2018 8:20 AM

Seen in an antique store:

"Riding Stable

For slow riders, we have slow horses.

For fast riders, we have fast horses.

For those who have never ridden before, we have horses that have never been ridden before."

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