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What Am I? (Feb 2021 Challenge Question)

Posted February 01, 2021 12:00 AM
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What am I? In my presence:

  • Scientists die in seconds
  • Europeans and Canadians die much later
  • But Americans are unaffected and indifferent

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A range of values is correct in this case: 60-70 degrees.

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02/01/2021 11:53 AM

Data that disagrees with a perception.

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02/01/2021 5:56 PM

I can't answer this one. I'm unaffected and indifferent...

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02/01/2021 10:52 PM

GA!

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02/01/2021 7:23 PM

This is a racist question, therefore I cannot answer it...

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02/01/2021 10:34 PM

Hmmmm....old chemists never die , they just fail to react....Europeans and Canadians and Americans......I just don't know..YET. Impossible is not a technical term,

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02/02/2021 7:04 PM

Isn’t North America and South America are all Americans?

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02/01/2021 10:48 PM

So American scientists die in in seconds but are indifferent.

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02/02/2021 7:01 PM

It could go either way...

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02/01/2021 10:54 PM

Wuhan virus deniers.

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02/02/2021 9:33 AM

Fast food - farts.

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02/02/2021 8:31 PM

This would make an excellent diet program. Post her picture on the refrigerator.

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Her?

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02/09/2021 10:10 AM

Only how he identifies himself as...

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02/03/2021 6:49 AM

vowel vowel consonant consonant disease?

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02/03/2021 7:44 PM

Global Warming....

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02/05/2021 3:41 PM

I'm thinking along the lines of how computers keep track of time. Scientists tend to use Unix which the start date is 12:00 AM on January 1, 1970, and originally counted time by seconds (meaning that they would run out of numbers by 2038 if they didn't fix it)? Also, different operating systems use other start dates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_time

System time is measured by a system clock, which is typically implemented as a simple count of the number of ticks that have transpired since some arbitrary starting date, called the epoch. For example, Unix and POSIX-compliant systems encode system time ("Unix time") as the number of seconds elapsed since the start of the Unix epoch at 1 January 1970 00:00:00 UT, with exceptions for leap seconds. Systems that implement the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the Windows API, such as Windows 9x and Windows NT, provide the system time as both SYSTEMTIME, represented as a year/month/day/hour/minute/second/milliseconds value, and FILETIME, represented as a count of the number of 100-nanosecond ticks since 1 January 1601 00:00:00 UT as reckoned in the proleptic Gregorian calendar.

More info here:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2533563/why-are-dates-calculated-from-january-1st-1970

The beginning of 1970 is popular, probably because of its use by Unix. But by no means is that dominant. For example:

I'm not aware that computers in Europe and Canada use a different start date from computers in the US, but apparently their GPS systems do differ.

  • The GPS satellite navigation system uses January 6, 1980 while the European alternative Galileo uses 22 August 1999.

Count Of What Since Epoch

Another issue with count-since-epoch time tracking is the time unit, with at least four levels of resolution commonly used.

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02/05/2021 5:35 PM

Wow. More information I never knew I didn't know. Thanks !

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02/06/2021 6:06 AM

I think you got it. Good answer. It's the millennium bug all over again.

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02/07/2021 1:37 PM

So you’re saying to grab your step early or you’ll be left standing... got it... thanks for the tip... I call shotgun on top step...

Thought bubble.... too many people try their best to show they’re ‘woke’, and is too easily offended by life happenings. instead of living life.

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You're both 'untouched' so far. Must not have sufficiently touched the "OT nerve".

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02/08/2021 6:15 PM

Because some members here, at least our more hypersensitive members believe me to be a racist... so... for those members, they act like i treat them as though I’m petting a cat in the wrong direction... so, I roll with it so to speak with stuff like this...

I’m untouched when I get into trouble, I just show them this,... I never leave home without...

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02/08/2021 7:54 PM

I think the admins are more tolerant now that Trump is out of office, or they are out with covid-19.

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02/08/2021 8:20 PM

I wouldn’t know... I have a WP card... and I take walt’s advice...

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Or we're the last three people subscribed to this thread.

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I figured that a while back... just due to the fact I haven’t heard any bellyaching... so, on this thread...

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I'm still watching, although I'm not sure why...

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02/09/2021 7:51 AM

Similar to Drone television programming, it will do that...

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02/08/2021 10:53 PM

Yup, us Canucks are already dead!!

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02/10/2021 5:32 PM

Like the thought bubble, but I'm going quiet on this now. Them bleachers will only take so many.

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02/09/2021 4:12 AM

Is it a spelling thing?

Or maybe a date thing (I could never understand why Americans don't follow the logical DD/MM/YYYY or YYYY/MM/DD way of recording dates)?

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Good Answer

I've been thinking about an asymptotic bookworm starting at the back of a dictionary.

But I hadn't thought about the date thing. I see that the Canadians insist on the YYYY/MM/DD format which is I have to admit better than the more normal in the UK DD/MM/YYYY because dates in that format can be sorted with no manipulation.

Personally I always try to use 09/Feb/2021 because no one can possibly misunderstand.

But how do you think that scientists might record dates that would endanger them before Europeans and Canadians?

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I like the Canadian way - it follows the world-wide accepted numbering format (1000/100/10/1).

It also works with filing date relevant documents. When saving documents I like to use the format 'NAME YYYY/MM/DD' - it seems to work well for me, it isn't as foolproof as including the abbreviated month name as you suggest, but the files do appear listed in date order.

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02/09/2021 8:31 AM

I would venture it is about temperature measurement scale. Kelvin vs Celsius vs Fahrenheit. Example 60 degrees Kelvin would be deadly etc.

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02/09/2021 1:15 PM

Welcome to the Funny Farm!! Always good to have new members join the chorus.

Great answer. Now, the task is to assign a numeric value to those scales to flush out the rest of the answer.

Any reasonable habitable temperature for humans in either degC or degF is wicked cold in degK as you said.

25 is pretty darn chilly in degF.

72 is damn hot in degC.

What other common numbers do we bandy about in degC or degF?

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02/09/2021 2:51 PM

BSR: Do you intend to flush out the rest of the answer? As in flush the toilet.

Or do you intend to flesh out the rest of the answer? As in discover additional information?

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Good catch. Meant flesh out. But maybe we could flush out the answer from somebody?

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02/09/2021 4:18 PM

Hot tub preferred temperature is 100°....

100°F = 212°C = 311°K

So you have your N Americans comfortable, your Brits boiling, and your scientists well blanched...

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02/09/2021 5:27 PM

100 deg F = 37.8 deg C = 311 deg K

Or is it 100 deg F Comfy; 100 deg C = 212 deg F Boiling; 100 deg K = -280 deg F Freaking Cold !!

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haha... yes of course....= dead in seconds

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Somehow I confused 100°F = 311°K with 100°K = (-280°F)

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02/09/2021 5:42 PM

I think maybe this is what you meant to write:

100 deg. F. - comfortable

100 deg. C. = 212 deg. F. (boiling)

100 deg. K. = -280. deg. F. (freeze in an instant)

Canada started to go metric years ago, but then the US didn't follow suit as expected, so now Canada had a mish-mash of Imperial and metric. eg. Plywood is ordered by millimetre thickness, but still comes in 4' X 8' sheets. Lumber still in 2' length increments. Fasteners also still mostly Imperial. Temperature, speed, and distance, liquid measure in metric.

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I think we would all like metric once used to it. But getting there would be quite difficult with all the tables, computer programs, etc, etc, extant.

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Don't you build your houses with studs on 40.64 cm centers?

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I still have an old code book in Imperial, but when we went metric everything was just directly converted. 16 inch centres is probably rounded off to 40 or 41 centimetres, but everyone still calls it a 16 inch centre. Tape measures are still marked at 16 inch centres. And the 2X4 and 2X6 studs are referred to in the new code in mm X mm, but everyone still calls them two by fours, and two by sixes - Imperial is a simpler way of expressing it. Metric has made things more complicated, not less (as was intended).

Also, the advantage of Fahrenheit is that there are more degrees in the range in which humans live. I'm still barely used to Celsius in weather reports. Between freezing and comfortable room temperature there are only 20 degrees in Celsius, but in Fahrenheit there are 38 degrees over that same range, enabling a more subtle expression of human comfort level for any given number.

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I like to say that it is good to be 'multi-lingual' in measurement systems.

One of my co-workers is a metric 'snob' or 'nazi' if you will, and he likes to make a point out of expressing measurements in metric, even when it is cumbersome when the prevailing audience is measuring in imperial values.

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When I was working as an engineer, but from a science background, I liked to use feet or inches and decimals. As that "other" type of people, they insisted on feet-inches-fractions. So I had to convert at the end in spite of decimals being so much better during the calculations.

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You're right about the clashes and mixing of metric and inch systems. Think about tires now days for your car..width is expressed in mm and the height is a ratio of the width still in mm but diameters are in inches !! go figure, who makes these decisions??

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02/10/2021 4:34 PM

Does everybody understand how the tire sizing measurement system works?

While mixing units is not usually advised, the combination actually works out pretty well in this case. Makes for easy numbers to handle.

For example the tyres on my Suburban: 265/70-16 or would you rather 10.43/70-16 or 265/70-40.64 ??

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We're still pretty mixed up over here in the UK, some of us more than others: I still prefer Winter temperatures in Centigrade and Summer temperatures in Fahrenheit.

Kids used to amuse me about twenty years ago, if you were talking about a piece of furniture they would insist that they didn't understand feet and inches, but, if a few minute later you slipped into the conversation "How tall are you?", they always came back with an answer in feet and inches.

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"...you slipped into the conversation "How tall are you?", they always came back with an answer in feet and inches."

And weight in stones??

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Re: "I still prefer winter temperatures in Centigrade." - in Northern Canada no one is confused, because -40 is the same in Centigrade and Fahrenheit.

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02/10/2021 5:24 PM

"I still prefer Winter temperatures in Centigrade and Summer temperatures in Fahrenheit."

I'm sure that was common on weather reports back in the 1900's, but it seems like ages ago. Gives us a strange feeling of good about extremes. I often switch between metric and imperial depending on what is being measured, without any rational explanation as to why. The UK is seemingly stuck in a mixture.

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02/10/2021 4:15 PM

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02/10/2021 4:43 PM

It wasn't fixer67 with #31?

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02/10/2021 10:06 PM

Agreed!

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02/10/2021 10:37 PM

I am certainly willing to share the glory with fixer67, and all others who contributed to the thought process....

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02/10/2021 10:40 PM

Can I have a leg or a thigh? Is it from KFC or Popeye's?

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02/11/2021 10:18 PM

I would never be so restrictive, take your choice, it's all you can eat!!

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02/09/2021 12:49 PM

Memory care within 6 months.

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02/15/2021 2:13 PM

Truth

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