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Human Tracking in China

Posted September 04, 2007 8:20 AM by Sharkles

Policing citizens in China just got simpler, thanks to the financial assistance of a U.S. company. Using 20,000 facial recognition surveillance cameras in combination with new, RFID chip-enabled residency cards, the city of Shenzhen will initially track and monitor 12.4 million people. The Chinese government expects to expand this controversial program and track 150 million citizens to ensure compliance with government mandates and to fight crime.

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09/04/2007 12:20 PM

In the US it is illegal to have indentured servants by many of the Aisa Chinesse Restraunt workers are infact indentured. The parents sell daughters mostly so they can send a son to college and the girl come to the USA and work off the money plus interest and housing. This means an 8 to 10 free labor and the girls only money come from Tips if the employeer does not take those ae well. Here 5 or 6 live in a 2 bedroom apartment own by the restraunt owner. They go to work and home no days off working 12 to 14 hours a day 7 days a week.

Can this technology be used here in the USA to stop this type of slavery?

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09/05/2007 1:32 AM

quite true

you forget that to caucasians, like americans, all chinese look alike. the facial recognition system will think so too! being set and tuned for western features...makeup also stuffs them up.

I think the yanks are on a winner here!! they get the money and everyone stays incognito!

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09/30/2007 3:55 PM

you forget that to caucasians, like americans, all chinese look alike. the facial recognition system will think so too! being set and tuned for western features...makeup also stuffs them up.

I would like to make you eat those words. Rather choke on that bigoted statement. Perhaps they do to you.

But, you do not speak for me!

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09/05/2007 3:54 AM

Sounds like it's about 23 years late but can you say "1984"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwellian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Obsolete_Man

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09/05/2007 8:04 AM

Just one more way to oppress your own people. Chinese are masters of this art.

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09/05/2007 9:23 AM

And people complain about the Partiot Act.

I guess if you don't have any civil liberties to begin with, there is nothing to trample.

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09/05/2007 9:35 AM

Oh don't worry, the Patriot Act is just baby-steps. The incremental erosion will continue below the threshold of pain until one day we won't have to worry about all those messy civil liberties.

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09/05/2007 9:49 PM

I guess we all knew this was coming. Indeed, "Big Brother" (the governmental leaders) is watching. The question really is: who's watching Big Brother?

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09/06/2007 11:54 PM

You ain't seen nothing yet, see, "Resonant Response of The Human Nervous System."

Print you, Track you, Listen to You, Kill You.

You can not protect yourself against technologies you don't understand.

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09/10/2007 2:44 PM

All this discussion about Orwell and Big Brother watching in the US and the downfall of our society is such a bunch of bs. We live in a democracy and when the Patriot Act is no longer useful it will be voted out. It's different in a dictatorship where the people have no voice, but in the US every law can be reversed.

As for China...they have their own battle for liberation to pursue. Good luck to them

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09/10/2007 9:57 PM

I would be more inclined to agree if it were not for the fact that this is more of a theoretical democracy than an actual one. In theory it could work. However, when the government and big business both pour massive amounts of money into public relations efforts that quite effectively, in the words of George Creel, the father of public relations, "engineer consent" from "the bewildered herd", then the notion that we freely control our destiny is perhaps a bit incognizant of the full picture. We may function as a democracy it is true. But when the mass of people who prefer not to be involved enough to check sources and verify the validity of what corporate controlled media spoon feeds them then they will only freely choose what they, "the bewildered herd", are led to believe.

I encourage you to read more here and decide for yourself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_on_Public_Information

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09/11/2007 7:02 AM

I agree with everything you say, but who ended the war in Vietnam, and who is maybe curtailing this war in Iraq? We will have to wait and see on that one, but it is certainly not the current government nor big business. People can make a change when there is enough pressure. Trust me, when Al Qada is rolled up and terrorism becomes almost a thing of the past, the Patriot Act will end up in the crapper. Remember the Patriot Act has to be renewed. It's not a forever done deal.

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09/11/2007 7:49 AM

Point taken. I guess that in recognizing that society tends to be crisis motivated, and if it hurts enough they will eventually be motivated to speak out in a way that is effective, I fear that the crisis threshold seems to be on the rise and it seems that it has to get worse before that threshold is reached. Perhaps that is attributable to a steady increase in the skills of those who would prefer to manage our perception. Perhaps we also pay better attention but I doubt it is keeping up with those who would prefer we didn't. I would hope to be wrong.[/p]

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09/30/2007 4:03 PM

The P act ( I refuse to call it by it's other name) was simply the vehicle to keep whistle blowers from exposing the covert operation as it appeared in the GAO. If it is ever 'voted' out the technology and personnel (the big expenses) have been put in place and accounted for. The watching will NEVER stop.

I know that there are such necessary evils, but I will not be lied to with a smile. Beware the handshake that pulls you near the blade.

It is silly and sad to think that these things just go away. Please. For Pete's sake it has feathers,, webbed feet, a yellow bill and it quacks. It's a freakin' duck already.

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09/30/2007 10:34 PM

You are so correct. Just like the infamous "Committee for Public Information" that was decommissioned after a congressional investigation. Yeah right! All they did was learn how to do it more surreptitiously. The Committee for Public Information only spawned modern "Public Relations" a nice name for mind control and the military picked up on it and their term for it is "Perception Management". Unfortunately it seems there will always be a "bewildered herd" that mindlessly believes the false propaganda that is pumped out from every industry and government controlled source.

Once a means of control is established it is never voluntarily relinquished, they just get better at hiding it and packaging it in a wrapper that lets you think it is keeping you safe from the made up threats that were explicitly designed to get the herd to run in a certain direction.

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09/12/2007 12:31 PM

I only know the history of this up to 2000. The City of Tampa, Fla. was using face recognition cameras in the Ybor City entertainment district for a few years. This was openly known. The idea was to try to spot criminals on the run as well as have a record of crimes being committed. As I recall, many arrests were made that were mistakes and caused those people a lot unnecessary problems as well as ruining their evening of fun. At the time I left the area, the usefulness of face recognition was in question by the city council, maybe due to lawsuits. Thats how you get rid of it...lawsuits!

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09/22/2007 12:31 PM

The cameras are still there but they were not as effective as adding 50 patrolman.

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