India and Russia to develop 5th generation stealth fighter

"F-22 Raptor which comes at a cost of $258 million per piece" and "The Indian Air Force wants the FGFA which is being called T-50 by the Sukhoi Design Bureau, to exceed the capabilities of the American F/A-22 ‘Raptor’"

If I remember right, when we beat the russions in the 1980 olympics did they not use the excuse that they did not play at 100% because there was a shortage of material for hockey sticks, which sounds so ludicrous that it to be gossip.

If true or not, One tends to think when you drop 1/4 billion + per unit. the order is don't put that unit to battle or in harms way, don't you know what it costs.

Where is it going to end, or is the end the answer?

"At present the only operational fifth-generation fighter in the world is the F-22 Raptor which comes at a cost of $258 million per piece which makes it the most expensive combat aircraft in history."

The B-2 cost about 2.5 BILLION per copy if you take deliveries and divide it by total program cost. The F-35 will probably end up costing nearly 1 Billion dollars per copy once the final figures come in. Projected costs are the costs given to the pundits for the purpose of selling the program and have not been any where close to reality for the past several decades.

The most profitable programs, in terms of return on investment, aren't the ones that go to production; they are the programs that are brought nearly to the point of production and then cancelled before investment in production infrastructure is made.

With 11 companies receiving more than 33 percent of all government contract funds, there is no longer a competitive industry to bring cost effective systems into the inventory. Effectiveness takes a back seat to profitability. It is indeed the end result of a fully entrenched Eisenhower Military Industrial Complex.

"deliveries and divide it by total program cost."

Woops, should be program cost divided by number of units delivered. Anybody interested in finding out the gross weight of the plane and mulitplying it by the price of gold? I'll bet the gold one is cheaper.

russia alway has strong science and tech research strength. which can match with usa.

why they alway have such strength? it curious that they hant got as strong economy as usa has.?

Don't write this english in this field. Let's be respected professionals.

Thank you

A respected professional wouldn't be as such a pompous ass as you evidently are.

In the former Soviet Union most of the available resources were concentrated to the military developments.

military tech is always a high tech, once its tech convey into civil enterprise and can get a huge leap to customers products. and rise economic strengh. just like as do as america does. the problem is ussr alway keep secret from civilan. and cannt convert to economic benefit.

their rocket is still the one of the best rocket in the world.

less country could match. as well as their M30 fighter plane, which is shown in recent air exhibition.

I do not believe noone question thier technology, of what I seen of them. As far as economy, thier resources are if not equal, it surpasses the U.S. It's just that we were able to untilized ours better.

I say the way to world peace is to give all the politicains longbows they could shoot it out in the grounds of a large hospital...You'd probably get away without any fatalities. It would probably make great TV too!

If you find the lack of fatalities dissapointing then you could use hunting arrows and do it miles away from the hospital.

It would be so much cheaper too !

To give them longbows is a pretty nice idea.

Provide some playground in the Sahara or Mojave or similar place. Let them have some water and bread and may be tents.

If somebody wants to quit or is not pleased or content then let him do mine clearance in Afghanistan oe Ugando or elsewhere for 6 more weeks.

Then these people have accumulated enough experience to be prudent in future.

Who starts to offer the playground.

I am convinced that many civiian or nonpolitical people will be willing to participate and pay for this game!

RHABE .

Cool Article

Keep in mind that the US has many spinoff technologies funded through these programs. Some of the orbiting "navigational aids" are part of this weapon system and others and as such bears part of the cost. I think the better question is ,"where did all the carbon fiber go"? Don't follow the money, follow the fiber.

ussr alway like to keep their hitech off others, there is less useful material in their magzine or documents to refer to, so less and less people learn russia language in china.

whereas there are too much material to study in west world so more people study english. this situation may change soon

So India are going into partnership with Russia to build a 5^th generation fly by wire, stealth fighter like the F-22 Raptor below with vectored thrust that can do all those fancy movements like the cobra head, supersonic cruise without reheat, et cetera:

So fly by wire with India involved, just how successful do you think the aircraft will be when India has wiring standards that produce things like this?

I don't know about you but if the second photo is anything to go by that's one fly by wire aircraft you would find me flying let alone being worried about it as and offensive weapon.