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Three Trebuchets

Posted November 12, 2007 11:27 AM by Steve Melito

Editor's Note: CR4 would like to thank Bill for contributing this story and sharing a photograph, schematic, and YouTube video. Thanks, Bill!

Trebuchet 1: A Simple Design

Here's the first trebuchet (left), cocked and ready to toss an egg! My brother (foreground right) and my nephew (foreground left) own a machine shop. This trebuchet took the three of us an afternoon to build. I got to their shop at 1 PM, and we all left there around 5 PM. We needed this trebuchet for a contest the next morning.

As you can see, the design is pretty simple. We used a 2 1/2" piece of PVC pipe (split lengthwise) for the trough, a fiberglass rod for the arm, and chunks of scrap metal for the counter weight. The axle was made with hardened dowel-pins stuck in the end of a piece of PVC, complete with Delrin bushings press-fit into holes in the plywood frame (which I built while the other two were finishing up jobs for their customers). We all made parts of the rest.

Trebuchet 2: Our First FAT

I've posted a video on YouTube of our first floating arm trebuchet (FAT). It shows the thing slinging a golf ball (which you can't see more than a glimpse of). If you watch closely - and enough times - while looking at different parts of the whole, you can see the principle behind the floating arm treb. Click here to watch the video.

Trebuchet 3: An Improved Floating Arm Trebuchet

I just so happen to be in the construction phase of an improved floating arm trebuchet. The principle behind this device is that the counter weight moves only vertically as the arm's axis moves along a horizontal rail on wheels. After going through much analytical geometry, etc., etc., I finally settled on the design above. The drawing does not show the complexity, but if you use your imagination, you may get a better idea of why I piddled with this for over a year before starting to build one.

The improved version I'm working on uses a pair of elliptical ramps and an escapement mechanism to allow the weight to be dropped from a much higher position. The lower part of the elliptical ramp flips out of the way of the wheels which roll down it (actually, there's two wheels and two ramps, but you only get to see one side from a side view). The purpose for the ramp is so that the weight can be raised as high as is practical to provide a smooth transition from vertical motion to horizontal motion of the axis of the trebuchet arm.

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11/12/2007 11:41 AM

Thanks to Moose! I may never have gotten this posted without gross errors!

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11/12/2007 1:08 PM

You are most welcome, Bill! This is great stuff.

Have you ever seen the Trebuchet Challenge on GlobalSpec?

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11/12/2007 2:56 PM

Yes, Moose, I have. I think that was just before I started searching for information on trebuchets on the internet and found not only the history, construction, etc., but also found out about floating arm trebs.

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11/12/2007 12:33 PM

I like the attention to detail...e.g. the beer bottle

Nice one

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11/12/2007 2:53 PM

I guess I left out, "I'm the old, bald, fat guy with the beer bottle in his hand watching my twin brother and his son do all the work."

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11/13/2007 2:35 AM

The only design that would trump this is a rocket boosted Trebuchet to drive the weight out faster than the acceleration of gravity!!!

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11/13/2007 8:08 AM

Believe it or not, we did consider using a magnet to give a little extra kick as the counterweight approached the bottom of its path, expecially since one of the scrap chunks of metal we used as a counterweight was actually a magnet! It's the smaller of the two chunks of metal in the first picture, and it even had an eye bolt already attached.

Since we didn't know where the best point in the trajectory would be to make it most effective, we decided to not complicate things and abandoned the idea.

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09/28/2009 4:07 AM

I know the last message was posted some years ago... but did you ever finalize your 3rd idea to a trebuchet? It looks a bit like 'Merlin' :)

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06/08/2010 10:07 PM

Hello, I used the concept behind your third trebuchet for a school physics project that I built with a friend, and it was reasonably successful. Using 30 lbs of weight, the trebuchet threw a 2 ounce projectile ~95 ft. Our throwing arm was about 6' long. I don't know if you have gotten around to building this yourself, but rest assured that the idea is sound in real life, not just on paper.

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