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Ask.com 'eraser' to scrub search requests

Posted December 11, 2007 10:58 AM

From The Globe and Mail - Technology News:

Hoping to establish itself as the Internet's least intrusive search engine, Ask.com is empowering people to prevent their search requests from being deposited in data banks. The new privacy control, called "AskEraser," is scheduled to be unveiled Tuesday. When it's turned on, the safeguard purges a user's search requests from Ask.com's computers within a few hours. Industry leader Google Inc. stores personal information for 18 months, as does Microsoft Corp.'s search engine. Yahoo Inc. and Time Warner Inc.'s AOL retain search requests for 13 months.

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12/12/2007 3:30 AM

If the likes of google store search info for 18 months, how much data capacity is used? I tried to make an uneducated estimate of how many search requests are made in one 24 hour period, does any one have these figures? I think I'm out by several orders of magnitude. Also, of what possible use is the information, and who would have time to look?

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12/12/2007 5:26 PM

It does not really matter which Search Engine you use, so don't worry.

The original stated intention of Mr Google, was "No data shall ever be erased, but retained in perpetuity", and that policy has never been rescinded.

Now you may easily think that storage for Mr Google, and others, is a problem.

You should consider that there are systems already set up, some for many years, which record every telephone conversation,fax, cellphone call, radio message, Internet traffic in fine detail, email, telegraph, cable (who uses that these days) in other words all Worldwide electronic communications, plus the to/from and time + duration details, IP addresses etc.

Please note there are many Internet/other references to electronic interception by Authorities, and the following weblinks are generally regarded as reasonably truthful.

Years ago there was Echelon:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1357264.stm

And the later Carnivore:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2000/aug/10/news.onlinesupplement

The Echelon system ends up in GCHQ in the UK, with some of the organisational structure of that organisation available here:

http://hometown.aol.com/IrishInnerCircle/gchqorg.html

Here in New Zealand, we had a new and honourable Prime Minister, Mr Norman Kirk, who was not part of the "Inner Circle", who returned from an overseas Conference, told a close friend "They got me", and died the following day, in August 1973.

Norman Kirk had just found out at during the overseas meeting, that the Waihopai spy base near Blenheim in South Island, NZ, which was part of the original Echelon Network, had instructions from overseas to alter the rules.

Those altered instructions were that certain information gathered in NZ by Echelon, would not be made available to New Zealand's Government, and this altered instruction was to be kept secret, and not to be advised to the NZ Government.

Having been through the fatal Greenpeace protest ship, "Rainbow Warrior" ship bombing in Auckland NZ harbour, by intelligence agents from France, who were caught, supposedly imprisoned, later taken back to France and celebrated as heroes with military honours, Norman Kirk was understandably upset, and announced at that overseas meeting his intention to close the Waihopai Spy base, because of the broken agreement.

His announcement got to the wrong ears, and Norman Kirk suddenly went to meet his Maker, the morning after he returned to New Zealand.

That is just a truthful small and local story.

What has this to do with "Search Engine Requests", you may well ask.

It does not really matter which Search Engine you use, because all traffic details are recorded at ISP level, and as far as I can tell, it is rather difficult to connect to the Internet without going through an ISP plus the Domain Root Servers.

So, if you wish to minimise risk, you could try Scroogle Search Engine, refer:

http://scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm

Although their access logs are erased within 48 hours, and generally much sooner, your electronic "footprints" have already been recorded elsewhere.

George Orwell's carefully written book "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was closer to the truth than most people like to admit, refer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_(1984)

A small amount of research will show you the truth of the above, and more.

Now that this Post is recorded, scanned for "certain words to be flagged" etc, I am past worrying about it, just "soldiering on" with life and its difficulties, remembering that our stay on Earth is very short, and when I leave, I do have a far better place to go to.

Trusting you have a better understanding of certain real-time events....

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