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Living in the Line of Fire

Posted August 27, 2008 8:48 AM

After the recent 'mild' California earthquakes, it seems life simply goes on as normal. While state building codes do help to prevent some damage in low level seismic events, they may not be as effective or even be completely ineffective in much larger quakes. Does it give the population a false sense of security and leave them vulnerable in the event that the 'big one' hits? What's the best option for quake prone areas? Better building codes? A zero building policy? The same could apply to hurricane prone areas built below sea level. Is there a common sense solution for all?

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08/28/2008 8:21 AM

We also know this news frolm net media. its terrible, is it true?

How is peple there dealing with this news? what measures do they make?

we know the state geologicla stratum is very complex.

Hope this only a science assume or suspection.

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08/28/2008 8:26 AM

There IS a common-sense solution for all. Simply don't build what you can't afford to lose in a seismically active zone, floodplain, hurricane-sensitive area, tornado alley, likely wildfire region, etc. Now try to implement that. Frankly, I think the time has come to halt public reimbursements to people who lose buildings placed in harm's way. Insurance premiums sufficient to make payments possible would change building practices, if not codes. But again, try to put it into practice.

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08/28/2008 9:54 PM

I agree with EnviroMan if the risk is there don't build what you can't afford to lose and this includes the lives of your family. Japan found out another problem a while back. Architects designing below earth quake standards to cut costs and contractors cutting costs by reducing the required structural steel in the same buildings. This is in hi-rise buildings and hotels so some were to be knocked down or fixed. The Japanese found out because other architects complained that they could not compete with the cheap guys. Taiwan on the other hand, did not find out that empty oil cans had been used by contractors to save concrete until some of their earth quake proof buildings collapsed in medium sized earth quakes. The first Japanese architect blamed committed suicide the Taiwanese contractors I heard escaped so maybe building oil can buildings elsewhere by now.

People have short memories if life is good, they forget storms and earth quakes until the next big one hits and hit it will. Coastal land that owners could not sell in the 60s bring very high prices now, I nearly bought a coastal block until I checked an old drawing which showed there was once a house on a 5 acre block next door. Not only had the house gone in a big storm but the land also had been washed away.

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08/28/2008 9:58 AM

The amount of Earthquakes and the amount of damage caused by earthquakes is far less then the volume and damage caused by the hurricanes that occur in Florida, and those neighboring States.

The volume and damage caused by tornadoes in the midwest is far greater then the quakes in California.

Both of those examples occur several times every year.

The Earthquakes don't happen all the time. I think Japan experiences more earthquakes then California.

Earthquakes occur once in awhile and sometimes things fall from the cubboards. There's only been a couple earthquakes in California that has caused any real damage and they occurred several years apart:

Los Angeles in 1971 had some real eye opening experiences from an Earthquake that caused freeway overpasses to collapse on I-5 and some structural damage that brought about some revisions in building codes.

It was almost 20 years after that one that another one that cause significant damage was in San Francisco in the late 1980's.

We have a fault line that runs down the middle of the State all the way through Oregon and Washington to Canada called the San Andreas Fault and everyone knows about it so they don't build on top of it anymore.

Earthquakes are the least of our worries. There's more concern and reason for concern about gang activity then there is about Earthquakes.

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08/29/2008 5:16 PM

What's the best option for quake prone areas? Better building codes? A zero building policy? The same could apply to hurricane prone areas built below sea level. Is there a common sense solution for all?

An uninsurable build at your own risk classification would eliminate much controversy, ya think?

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