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The Everlast Plasma Cutter That Didn’t Last

Posted February 05, 2009 11:20 AM by frankd20

I know that others have had good experiences with plasma cutters from Everlast, but I did not. What follows is my own account.

The Shot Heard 'Round eBay

I made the mistake of buying a CUT 60D Everlast plasma cutting machine on eBay. The transaction via PayPal was smooth, and the plasma cutter arrived in a reasonable amount of time.

I pulled the unit out of the box, set it up, and started cutting. The plasma cutter worked well enough for the price, and I made a couple of cuts to test it. This is where my enthusiasm for this Everlast product ends.

On the third cut, the plasma cutter emitted a loud bang that sounded like a fire cracker. Then the circuit breaker switch tripped off. I flipped the switch back on and the machine started again. But when I tried to cut, another loud bang was heard.

Mad About MOSFETs

Upon opening the cutter's case, I discovered that the problem was obvious. One of the MOSFETs had blown. A metal-oxide semiconductor field-effect transistor (MOSFET) is an electronic switching device with a conducting channel as the output. They don't sell 'em at Wal-Mart.If you look at the ads from Everlast, the company claims that its plasma cutters use Toshiba or Fuji MOSFETs. This was one of the selling points for me. When I looked at the MOSFETs in my machine, however, I found an unwelcome surprise. Covered by a metal plate as a heat sink, my MOSFETs were made by Wisdom semiconductor with part number WFW20N50.

Blame the Supplier

I contacted Everlast and told them what had happened to me. I also asked the company to replace my machine with one that had the correct MOSFETs, or - if that wasn't possible - to give me my money back.

I was told that the manufacturer in China had switched MOSFETs without telling Everlast. I was also told to wait two weeks since they didn't have a machine with the right MOSFETs in stock. Two weeks came and went. All the while, I saw the same product being sold on Ebay. I contacted Everlast again and was told to wait longer. Two weeks turned into two months.

Memory Loss and Shipping Cost

When I contacted Everlast after waiting way too long, the company didn't remember anything. So, I had to copy all the emails to remind them.

I had told them the first time that I would not pay for shipping since they sent me a product with the wrong MOSFETs. So now after waiting all this time, I was told to send the unit back – but that Everlast would not pay for shipping.

I complained by contacting eBay and PayPal. I also submitted a letter of complaint to the Better Business Bureau. Eventually, Everlast contacted me and said it would pay for shipping.

Show Me the Money

During this time, I still told Everlast that I would like a unit with the correct MOSFETs since the product I had would cut well-enough if the MOSFETs help up. I was told that Everlast would only refund my money, and did not want to replace my unit with the correct item. "Fine", I said. "Then return my money."

A week went by. I contacted Everlast again. WHERE IS MY MONEY? The company told me that PayPal had blocked them from sending money, so I'd have to wait. But when I called PayPal and told them about the situation, PayPal stated that it does not block anyone from sending money or giving a refund. The only reason would be if the company did not have money in its account.

At this point, I knew that Everlast was lying to me. So I contacted my credit card company and submitted a complaint. To its credit (no pun intened), my credit card company issued me a credit. Finally, I got my money back. As for Everlast, it's reputation (at least with me) cannot be replaced.

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02/06/2009 6:39 AM

Company's in china it seems are not averse to changing components to suit themselves and or changing specifications without communicating these things to the buyers. It usually arises when they think the cheaper product will do without doing any quality checks. They will eventually get the message when sales begin to fall.

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02/06/2009 8:23 AM

Which is one of the reasons I at least try anyway, NOT TO BUY CHINESE PRODUCTS.

Totally unreliable......but this is what Chinese companies call "Business" get as much money as you can as quickly as possible and find new outlets......

About this time CNPOWER will get on his high horse and be totally upset again.......par 4 the course I feel!!!! He blusters well......

Chinese companies do not make reliable products. You either accept that or you don't, I simply accept it and forget that they exist.....

And Everlast has also gone off my shopping list for ever too......not for shipping unreliable Chinese parts instead of the promised ones, but for handling the customer so badly and lying as well........

I wonder just how many other "Everlastingly Unhappy" customers there are?

I personally have warned prospective customers on ebay for such things, but since they "coded" the names, it is not possible anymore. Another "BallsUp" from ebay......if they were not so big, I would use other online Auction houses.....

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02/06/2009 10:30 AM

Thank you for the warning. Your complaints are valid and well supported. In all fairness, a lot of good, quality products do come from China, but you will find a reputable, well known company behind them who take the time and effort to check on quality. Shame on Neverlast for not having a working quality control program. If you buy a "No Name" product from China, then caveat emptor. I guess in the plasma cutter arena, I would want to see a name like Miller, Hobart, Lincoln, etc. Any others would be suspect.

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02/06/2009 10:47 AM

Your right that going with a name brand product is a safer bet, but sometimes the much much cheaper price that is supposed to come with a five year warranty is too tempting.

I have gambled on buying cheaper tools for things that I don't use much and found some to my liking and some not that I returned. This was the most expensive gamble on a cheap tool I have taken, but at least in the end I got my money back.

As my tools are used for doing hobby work and not my source of income, its hard to justify huge expense.

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02/06/2009 10:59 AM

I agree, I too have purchased tools from Harbor Freight, etc. when the expected use is going to be relatively low.

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02/06/2009 2:32 PM

Hobby or not, high quality tools are always a good investment.

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04/23/2009 10:20 PM

There are some good products that are made in China. It's like anything else, if it's made for some company, it all depends on the standards that the company specifies the product to be manufactured too.

If it's just an ordinary product made for and sold by the Chinease, buyer beware.

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06/04/2009 4:19 PM

Hello Brave sir Robin

We do have good QA in place .. Post form Greg was about CUT60 unit and came from out old supplier that we no longer use. We only had one big order that came in back in SEPTEMBER of 2008 ..Factory switched brand of MOSFET's and didn't even tell us. Since then we switched to IGBT technology units and they hold up really well. In the lost 3 years we sold over 3000 plasma cutter alone range from 40a - 100a. We always work to improve QA, and quality of Everlast units.

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02/12/2009 1:54 PM

We too purchased from the company that changed the mosfets without 1st asking us. We no longer purchase from said company.

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03/23/2009 11:23 PM

Thank you gentlemen for the info. I will not buy a Chinese plasma cutter after reading your articles. BTW, I have fixed numerous electrical switches for my neighbor and his new Chinese tractor. His new Chinese pump won't start though either. Anybody ever used a Chinese punch or chisel? I rest my case.

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04/03/2009 5:19 PM

thanks for the warning just had an offer in for the everlast cut 70 not any more. does anyone no if im wise to buy the ramsond cut70dy if please reply thanks.

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04/03/2009 6:47 PM

Why not buy a GiantTech Cut50D ?

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06/04/2009 11:05 AM

GiantTech plasma cutters come from China too and have a high reserve on eBay, why would I want to pay a high reserve for the same plasma cutter with different paint color and decal??

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06/04/2009 11:53 AM

For several reasons.

1. Just because they are from China doesn't mean the quality is all the same. I've sold over 500 machines from my current factory and had ZERO mosfet failures.

2. Look at my feedback on EBay , who beats it? NO ONE!

3. I actually inspect EACH and EVERY machine ( remove cover do a visual on all connections and hand check with screw driver and wrenches critical mechanical connections.

4. I test EACH and EVERY machine for proper functions to help assure you will not receive a DOA machine and one that will work as it should.

5. I've been selling these machines for over 3 years now.

6. Not the same plasma cutter as the others, one one is getting their machines from the same factory I'm getting mine from.

Need a plasma cutter or tig welder, go here... www.GiantTechPlasmaCutter.com

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06/04/2009 12:14 PM

Also not all of our auctions have reserves, thou most do.

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06/04/2009 12:40 PM

And guess what happens to most auctions that don't have a reserve.... before the auction ends, the item suddenly becomes unavailable and the auction is ended early..., I have been high bidder several times when this happens, and even though the seller has several of the same plasma cutters listed, but only the one I was winning became unavailable. I contacted the sellers, and only one was honest enough to get back to me and admit that he pulled the item because it wasn't going for a high enough price.

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06/04/2009 1:37 PM

Well try one of my aunctions with no reserve.

No comment on my other comments?

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06/26/2009 6:14 PM

It is the exact same thing as everlast or lotos.

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06/26/2009 7:00 PM

Shows what little you know.

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05/06/2009 9:21 PM

ramsond... junk...junk...junk...cutomer service very poor ..had it for a month sent it back still doesnt work... want to know more toms225@citcom.net

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06/04/2009 4:24 PM

ALL new 2009 PowerPlasma cutters are IGBT with PILOT ARC technology.

ramsond cut70dy is older MOSFET's technology and no PILOT ARC

For all IGBBT we use Robust Infineon (By Siemens) modules

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04/21/2009 9:37 AM

I have the same plasma cutter. I've yet to have a problem w/ the one I currently own, but getting it was a nightmare. First one was "DOA" and months later ended up w/ a working model. They said there was a customs problem. My story is much like yours. Lots of bs involved. The good thing is that they are not currently selling everlast plasma cutters on Ebay. Hopefully it will stay that way.

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You are mistaken, they are still there.

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06/05/2009 12:39 PM

Perhaps you are confusing me with someone else. One my name is not Greg, two you never once called me on the phone, although I called you many times. I only was able to talk to you (alex) on the phone once, and the conversation was very short as it was only to ask you about a return. 99% of the time I got the girl in shipping who by the way was very nice although couldn't do much to help me.

Three it was never really resolved, other than to say that you would take it back and refund my money, which isn't quite what happened since I had to dispute with the CC company to get my money.

To your credit, the one thing that you did right was continue to communicate with me even tho you didn't resolve the issue. I have many emails between us that I have compiled to look like a sort of chat that I can post if anyone is interested.

If you have improved your product that is great but I can only speak about the experience I had.

As far as I can tell, from my experience and the deception of a satisfied costumer, you first posted on here and then removed, you haven't changed your ways.

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06/05/2009 12:49 PM

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Again .. sorry that transaction didnt work out well. I really couldn't refund you via paypal at that time. We were new to paypal and once large amount of money started to come in paypal limited our account. I just should of send you refund check but didn't think of it that time. Again I did my best to handle that transaction .

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06/05/2009 12:51 PM

Hello, I would be interested in reading the e-mails if you don't mind posting them, I am planning on purchasing a plasma cutter within the next week or two and everytime I think I have found a good one I find more posted reports that pursuade me not to get that particular brand. Thank you for posting what you already have. Jack

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06/08/2009 10:55 AM

Sorry for the length of this, but here is the chat/emails for your reading pleasure.

frankd20:
I was using the product for the second time and all of a sudden it made a loud bang and stoped working. The ebay listing says a One(3) year warentee?. Can I return and get a refund on the unit or will you replace or repair it?

everlast_dealer:
we will exchange ... please send it to
everlast
1417 san mateo ave
south san francscio CA 9408
once we get it .. we will send you new unitfor free

frankd20:
Thank you I am glad you will exchange it, is it possible for me to return it and get my money back instead as it is well under 30 days? If I decide to exchange it, can you guarentee I will get toshiba or fuji mosfets? If you can guarentee that I will get what was advertised, and I send it back, do I need to send everything back, or just the main unit?

everlast_dealer:
you can get refund .. but shipping is not refundble .. please let me know what u want to do

frankd20:
I would like to exchange the product for a new one, make sure that the new one you provide has Toshiba or Fuji Mosfets as advertised on ebay.
Should I send back everything or just the main unit?

everlast_dealer:
send all back .. factory is going back to toshiba chips ..

frankd20:
I will send it all back, since the Mosfets weren't Toshiba or Fuji as advertised, will you pay for shipping?

everlast_dealer:
r we doing exchange or refund ?

frankd20:
An exchange, for one with toshiba or fuji mosfets

everlast_dealer:
we have a new batch leaving factory early next week ..you will need to wait little .. if you just wan refund please send it back .

frankd20:
I don't mind waiting a little as long as its the product as advertised with Toshiba Mosfets. About how long a wait, and when and how should I send it back?

everlast_dealer:
shipping from China to me is 2 weeks ..
once we get it ., we will get the bad unit frmo u

frankd20:
That is fine with me, contact me in two weeks. ....Sent Aug 28th

frankd20:
Its been 2 weeks now, plese let me know how to procede. ....Sent Sept 12th

everlast_dealer:
Please let us know what is the problem, so that we could fix it.
Thank you

frankd20:
Below is a summary of my email's with you so far(above), and should answer your question. What I would really like is a working unit with the mosfets as advertised on ebay, if you can not delever this then I want my money back. I do not feel I should pay shipping as what was first sent was not what was advertised, and it promptly broke. Please let me know how to procede

everlast_dealer:
we have a new batch coming in 10 or so days
with correct mosfets, I will exchange

frankd20:
It has been more than 10 days, do you have the new batch in now?

everlast_dealer:
its coming OCT 5th

frankd20:
Do you have this in now?

everlast_dealer: Oct 14th
was little deally .. we expecting to get it tomorrow

frankd20:
Was the delay taken care of? Has this been shipped, if so can you please provide me a tracking number?

everlast_dealer:
its in port , should be delivered this week , I will ship friday

everlast_dealer:
.. All units were picked up on friday around 6pm PST
very sorry for deally

frankd20:
Was this sent via DHL? they don't have any packages listed as coming to my address. Can you give me the tracking number?

frankd20:
Do you have an update on this? Was a unit actually shipped to me as I was told? I have called your telephone number many times in the past and today and no one ever answers. I have been very paitent with this matter, but really a month and a half is a long time to wait when you were initally told two weeks.
You sent me a unit that was not what was advertised (wisdom semiconductor mosfets), it quickly broke. I am requesting that you replace the unit with the correct item or refund my money. It has been over a month and a half, in which time I can confirm you have sold at least four of the exact same items (CUT60D) on ebay. If you are selling items with Toshiba mosfets as advertised then why have I waited this long, as you obviously have the items, otherwise you are knowling involved in false advertising.
The bottom line is I want a working plasma cutter with Toshiba mosfets or I want my money back, I will not pay to ship back something when you sent me the wrong item in the first place. The broken unit is boxed and ready to go whenever you want it. I have given you lots of time to fix this situation. Once I recieve a working unit with the mosfets as advertised or my money back I will be happy and consider this matter closed, if the unit is in transit then great. If I do not recieve one of these resolutions then I will take the necessary next step actions.

everlast_dealer:
so , we have new units in stock .. we will not send new unit unless we get old on back
we only pay shipping both ways ON DOA units. this is not the case
the only reason we told you that units were picked up on Friday because we were thinking you new order costumer
you can also send unit back for full refund

frankd20:
I emailed you in the past stating I would not pay to ship back a product that was not what was advertised, but you did not comment. You clearly state Toshiba mosfets on the ebay advertisment and on your website. You instead use Wisdom semiconductor mosfets, so I didn't get what I paid for. To me this is worse than DOA since you sent me the wrong thing.

I have taken photographs of the incorect mosfets and am sending this information to the BBB Better Business Bearu and the FTC Federal Trade Commision bureau of consumer protection, showing that you engage in false advertising.
My company runs a blog site for engineers and works with other sites of a simular nature, I will blog about this along with pictures showing the incorrect mosfets an my expirences with your company.
I will contact ebay and inform them of the situation.

I really wish this could have been avoided, but after waiting a month and a half and being given the run around, when you never were shipping me anything you have led me to this.

I am sorry it didn't work out, please let me know if you would like to fix this.


everlast_dealer:
I can talk to mike .. if he will take over this problem
I only go by the rules

frankd20:
If Mike can resolve this then talk to Mike. I understand that you go by the rules, but you should have told me this a month and a half ago and attempted to resolve it then as I would of worked with you. Instead you told me you were sending me something, made me wait kept telling me it was delayed and then never sent me anything. I have already contacted ebay and the Better Business Bureau. I don't have time today but will submit a complaint to the FTC and write up a number of blogs in the next few days detailing my experience with your company.

everlast_dealer:
order did came in late , it was stock in costumers..
if mike will take care of this , why would u make complain ?

frankd20:
I will retract the complaints I have made if Mike can resolve this.

My complaint is based on the use of the wrong mosfets which is false advertising, this complaint is valid no matter what you do and is something consumers of your products should be aware of.

Regardless I will retract this if you can resolve this issue, and assume that you sent me a product with the wrong mosfets, but that you actually do sell products with the correct mosfets and that is what you intended to send me.


everlast_dealer:
talked to Mike .. we will get u label and give you refund
only ONE batch came with NONE Toshiba chips .. we been using same factory for years and never had a problem like that
we were not aware that they would change chips without telling us and we didn't check

so refund that is ..

frankd20:
If you can provide me with a cutter with Toshiba chips then I am still interested in a replacement and would prefer this to a refund. I understand however if you would rather refund my money to not have me as a customer. I will be satisfied with either resolution.
Let me know what you want to do.

everlast_dealer:
we preffer to give you refund !

frankd20:
That is fine, let me know what you need me to do.

everlast_dealer:
like i said .. mike said to take care of it and give you refund .. that is what i am doing .
you can find good or bad on any company .. even miller and others..
we do our best to bring best and AFORDABLE product to the average Joe
and i think we doing good job on it ...
i will make sure you get a return label tomorrow

frankd20: to everlast shipping
Hi everlast shipping dpt
I spoke with Alex via email yesterday, Alex told me that he would prefer to refund my money rather than send me a new unit which I understand and I am fine with if that is what he wants to do.

I would rather a new unit as long as the new unit contains Toshiba mosfets. My reason for this is simply that I still want a plasma cutter, I know others online have had good experiences with your product. Alex told me that the factory in China changed mosfets without telling you and that is what I got, but this has since been corrected. If this is the case then sending me a unit with the correct mosfets should not be a problem and is still my preferred choice.

I am telling you this as an FYI because I don't want you to go against what anyone else has already decided, so if you haven't already you may want to speak with Alex. If it is ok for you to send me a replacement then by all means do so, if not a refund is fine as well, just let me know which it is.

everlast_shipping:
Thank you very much for clearing this up. I was not in the office yesterday. Mike only authorized to do a refund.
I already faxed you a shipping label to xxx-xxx-xxxx tracking number xxxxxxxxx. Please let us know if you have
received it and when the unit ships.

frankd20:
I am still awaiting my refund, according to DHL you received the plasma cutter. Please let me know how and when you are refunding my money.
I saw you responded to the complaint I filed with the better business beau, they sent me a letter stating that the case will be considered closed on Nov 7th if I don't respond to them. Please send me my refund by then or I will tell them that the case has not been resolved.
At the moment I don't have either a plasma cutter or my money, please send me one.

frankd20:
I sent an email regarding my refund a couple of days ago and have not received a reply from you as to where the matter sits. I also called you and was told someone would call me back, but no one has.

everlast_dealer: Nov 3rd
we got it back .. we waiting on paypal to unblock out account …
its still limited .. they checking on my info ..
here is copy .. we can ONLY receive money and not send .. so bare with us


This ends the emails
At this point I contacted paypal and was told that they don't block accounts, this is when I contacted my credit card company.

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06/08/2009 8:13 PM

Thanks for sharing Frank; there won't be a "neverlast" in my shop !!!

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Re: The Everlast Plasma Cutter That Didn’t Last

06/11/2009 9:43 PM

Sorry to hear your negative experience. If you are considering a unit around the same price point, please check out Longevity Welding Equipment at www.longevity-inc.com their customer service is top notch and they actually test the plasma cutters and welders before shipping them.

If you do not believe in China made products, at least you can view what their customers are saying about their customer service at www.freeweldingforum.com

Give them a shot, I did and I overall happy with the service and cutting quality.

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Re: The Everlast Plasma Cutter That Didn’t Last

07/01/2009 6:24 AM

I notice that all of these plasma cutters have the same components regardless of whose name is on the box. I have seen this often over the last decade with air conditioning plants made in China. My plasma cutter popped after 10 minutes of use and I take the view that asking a supplier to honor a warentee is a waste of time.I have tried to find a site on the WWW where I can see a component schematic or even a list of parts. I would like to talk with anyone who has actually repaired one of these crap machines and discuss what they have done to keep the machine running.Those who want to sell stuff,don't waste the effort because I am more interested in fixing this disaster. contact me direct at briskiwi At bigpond dotcom dot AU Cheers!!

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Re: The Everlast Plasma Cutter That Didn’t Last

07/01/2009 8:33 AM

So you haven't even asked the supplier if he'll honor the warranty?

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Re: The Everlast Plasma Cutter That Didn’t Last

07/01/2009 3:11 PM

I always chuckle with the Chinese bashing that goes on. I am sure written before, but it is a known fact that other welders including 'US' welders use Chinese parts. Even accessories. One example: I bought a Hobart 210 Mig (that I like very much) several months ago. Reportedly very similar if not almost-identical to the Miller version. I decided I wanted a 'Hobart' spool gun and bought one. Well, how about that!, the Hobart spoolgun (comes in nice red case as I bought the 10ft that you fit the wires in case) has "Made In China" that begs the question is the Miller spoolgun in their similar welder also made in China? "Oh MY GOD!!! it must be aweful!!!" It is an excellent spoolgun. The truth of the matter there is not really much to any inverters of any complexity than the PCB boards that can be made cheaply in mass. (first one made is expensive). Kind of built more like a heavy PC. Perhaps if our US manufacturers did not price gouge, imo, the machines that probably cost less than 500 bucks to make and sell for 3500, there would be more sales of the US machines especially to noobs and hobbyists. One thing I can say by reading the forums and postings on the subject there are suspicious posts by competing people. Someone will write a good review of a Chinese product and 2 or 3 posts later there will be a counterpost or vice-versa. The consumer is confused. If the product works as expected they cost only a fraction of the cost of domestic/other units. Any reasonable warranty or exchange make the unit extremely attractive and I would 'dance on air' being them if they got the bucks and mark-up Miller gets. They could probably repair it 3 or 4 times and still make money on the unit since some serious bucks were spent on it. (a metal box with pcb boards, support electronics and dials) The Chinese sellers cannot make it cost-effective to have it shipped to a local factory or service facility for repair, but it seems to me, have to ship back the bad units once they have exchanged it, with probably an agreement with factory or origin. I don't know. So, big deal. You get another unit if it is justified. In my view, the overpriced with huge markup, imo, domestic units should beware as it would only take one thing for the Chinese units to *explode* and that would a centralized broadbased service facility for *old* (and new) units with parts data based. Sorry for the bad news but, imho, the Chinese units will get bigger and bigger in the market perhaps having other manufacturers to 'fair price' their units and everyone wins. This IGBT standard, like a lot of costlier products non-Chinese, with some manufacturers/resellers, could be the beginning, you never know. They improve all the time. Hey! They have to make money somewhere to buy our debt! Cut them a break! <tongue in cheek>

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Re: The Everlast Plasma Cutter That Didn’t Last

07/12/2009 6:38 AM

I cant speak for the everlast range of products however i did buy a machtig brand 180Amp plasma cutter/tig/mma welder from a DIFFERENT seller on ebay and i have had nothing but strife with it. Did not get so much as a reply from seller :( (The picture showed a different brand to what i recieved) not good in itself.

anyhow,

The second time i used it it blew up. An underrated capacitor (16v 1000uf instead of 25v 1000uf) exploded in the low voltage section, blew both voltage regulators (the lm317 and the 7812 reg) as a result damaged the inverter section and two of the drive mosfets. (was only sheer luck the voltage spike and shorted drive mosfet transistors didn't cause a catastrophic failure of the main switching mosfet transistors) at $25+ each it would have cost more than a new unit. I replaced all failed components and installed a few zener diodes and fuses to prevent a similar problem and it was fine for another six months.

Now it has decided to blow a rectifier in the output section of the inverter upon switchon(a d92m-03 dual diode, one of twelve, 300v 20A fast recovery) I cannot get this part anywhere at a fair price as it was discontinued in 07 by fuji :(

If anyone has this part in australia from a busted unit etc, or even a complete unit that is broken i would be very grateful. I cannot afford to buy a decent brand unit :(

Also schematics would be very useful, maybe a bunch of us can get together and reverse engineer these pieces of junk. would be very handy for everyone as i think all of these chinese things are more or less identical

Kind regards,

Justin

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Re: The Everlast Plasma Cutter That Didn’t Last

07/12/2009 7:08 AM

email me at larry@plasmametalcutter.com I might be able to help

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Re: The Everlast Plasma Cutter That Didn’t Last

09/02/2009 12:31 AM

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Re: The Everlast Plasma Cutter That Didn’t Last

09/23/2009 10:36 PM

I wish I had read this post before i bought a "50A PLASMA CUTTER 200 AMP TIG STICK/ARC WELDER" I bought this one because it works on both 110v and 220v. Since i am cutting .100" thick mild steel i thought 110v would be more than enough juice. These are branded "ACCURATE TOOLS" and i thought i got a good deal on it because the LCD was not working.. from the ebay listing: "THIS MACHINE WAS TESTED, THE MACHINE WORKS FINE HOWEVER THE LCD READOUT IS INACCURATE. SINCE THE AMPERAGE IS CONTROLLED BY THE MECHANICAL DIALS ON THE MACHINE THE MACHINE CAN STILL BE OPERATED NORMALLY - YOU JUST CANT TRUST THE LCD DISPLAY." I received the welder after paying customs/taxes on it on a Friday and went out the next Monday and spent $300 on an argon tank, electrodes and both stick and tig rods. Got home and tried it out with a 1/16' 6013 stick rod and couldn't even get the rod to stick to the steel. amperage did not seem to change at all no matter what it was set at. Also, the argon regulator did not work. I contacted the seller and asked him if he tested it at 110v and was told no - tested at 220v. Now he is saying it is not working properly because a 20amp breaker is not enough - it should be a 30amp breaker. I can`t see any sense in this at all as a breaker should disconnect when too much current is demanded. the machine will not trip even a 20 amp breaker when used at full amperage! I have realized that so much time has been wasted that i can`t leave feedback on ebay and have had to open a case with paypal. Very disappointed and feel the seller has been wasting my time so that i will not be able to file a dispute. I am using the welder now after spending $100 for a length of cable and a connector to go to the garage from the house at 220v. Works fine at 220v, something wrong at 110v. Once again - ACCURATE TOOLS is brand name but I think I managed to find the original manufacturer in china here:http://wenzhouhanlong.en.made-in-china.com/product/IqhJMtwUnlcC/China-Tig-Mma-Cut-Welder-Welding-Machine-CT518DY-.html

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Re: The Everlast Plasma Cutter That Didn’t Last

09/24/2009 7:31 AM

That seller has been listing DOA machines on EBay for the last couple of months. My guess is he purchased a container load months ago without 1st verifing the quality, probably saw us and another sellers selling so many units and thought all the machines came from the same Chinese factory or that all Chinese made machines are the same. It is also obvious from all his DOA machines that he didn't test them before shipping out otherwise there is no way he would have had all the DOAs.

People need to do more research before purchasing these machines. Look for the seller with the BEST feedback ( that's us :) ). Not only do we have the best feedback but we have been selling these machines longer than anyone except one of seller. Others selling these claim to have been selling them for 4 years or more, they are lying. Again, best to research the seller before jumping on one of these "DEALS"

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Re: The Everlast Plasma Cutter That Didn’t Last

11/24/2009 12:05 AM

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Re: The Everlast Plasma Cutter That Didn’t Last

11/24/2009 7:50 AM

How many years have they been selling welders/plasma cutters?

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