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DIY Deck Removal (Part 2)

Posted May 28, 2009 5:01 PM by Steve Melito

The pool deck that I removed on Memorial Day was 20-ft x. 12-ft and had four sections. Each of the 3 larger sections contained 10 to 15 planks and had several sections of safety rail. The fourth section was smaller and contained less decking, but sat above an electrical conduit.

For all four sections, the floor joists and rim joists were 2 x 6s. The uprights underneath the deck and the posts that held the safety railings were 4 x 4s.

Goodbye, Railing

First, I used my reciprocating saw to cut every other vertical support for the safety railing. The intervening 4 x 4s had base plates, so I just left them alone for the time being. Next, I used the hooked end of the pry bar to pound out the flimsy, horizontal boards that connected sections of railing. With these links severed, the 4 x 4s that I had cut no longer had anything (however flimsy) to hold them in place.

Removing the cut supports was easy. Ridding the deck of the remaining 4 x 4s (the ones with base plates) took more effort. Still, by simply rocking these 4 x 4s back and forth, I was able to make a mockery of what the deck builder had so carefully toe-nailed into place.

With the safety railing dismantled, I looked at my feet. My work on the first section (photo above) might be called "How Not to Remove Decking". If you've ever looked at decking before (for example, if you've ever been really bored at a pool party), you may have noticed that each board contains four or five rows of nails. There are two knurled nails per row, and these rows are evenly spaced.

How Not to Remove Decking

When I removed the decking from the first section, I made the mistake of working row-by-row instead of board-by-board. In other words, I loosened all of the nails in Row 1 for Boards 1 – 10. Then I used the pry bar to attack all of Row 2 (across the boards) before turning my attention to Row 3. By the time I reached Row 4, the one closest to the pool, I was stumbling across loosened planks. Check out my footing in the picture above!

Unfortunately, some of these boards had dry rot. Others, like the one I stepped on as I pulled a nail from Row 4, had a large knot. Not surprisingly, this board broke and I fell several feet to the ground below (foolishness not shown). Luckily, I landed on my feet before banging into one of the floor joists, which held me upright.

I'm not sure how I managed to avoid tearing my flesh on an exposed nail like the ones you can see in the picture below , but the pool cover wasn't so lucky. When I fell through the deck, the pry bar flew from my hands and into the air before putting a hole in the pool cover. The hooked end kept the bar from falling to the bottom, however, so I won't need to follow this blog entry with one called DIY Pool Patching.

Jousting with Joists

When I removed the decking from the other sections, I (wisely) worked board-by-board instead of row-by-row. Once a section of decking was gone, I made cuts on the near end of each floor joist. Next, I cut away the longitudinal rim joists so that the cut floor joists dangled in mid-air. Much as I'd done with the safety-rail supports, I then rocked the joists to loosen them from the remaining nails in their joist hangers at the far end.

Grabbing a joist, I raised it skyward and gave it a twist or two. Nails that proved troublesome fell victim to the pry bar that had punctured my pool cover.

My sledgehammer worked well, too.

Use Conduit Sense

By removing the supports without hassling with deck hardware, I was able to complete this demolition project in about 5 hours. The last section of the deck was the smallest, but took a long time. You see, there was this electrical conduit (photo at right, below) that stuck up out of the ground. Flattening it would have been painful, and - for now obvious reasons - I try to avoid truly dangerous DIY.

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05/28/2009 5:54 PM

There are some interesting materials for this sort of work. The chemicals of copper and arsenic for treated wood these days call for ceramic coated deck screws, or ACQ nails. PT woods, are still wood, and you need to know how to work them, and fashion them. They are toxic to touch or breath, and as landscaping devices, you are not actually supposed to eat tomatoes grown with in a foot and a half of them.

Trex and some of the other plastic woods, as they are, get really really hot. Long life stuff. Needs to be attached with brass screws of a complex whirl for sweetest looking looks.

Screw hole, or nail whole dob cover will probably advance the age of any exposed to rain deck by decades. You could make a fine and durable deck with Advantac 4x8 3/4 sheets, and hardly do anything to it, and get a longtime out of it in shorter time than 1x6 Pt deck construction.

-plus avantac would be cooler, and less poisonous.

Grit paint of the right color would also help comfort and safety for the barefoot.

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Re: DIY Deck Removal (Part 2)

05/29/2009 8:38 AM

Thanks for your comment, Transcendian. The part about the tomatoes is of particular interest, as my plans for a nearby garden could collide with my other plans to reclaim this area via landscaping.

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05/28/2009 5:57 PM

(foolishness not shown)

You can't create a cliffhanger and not include incriminating pictures!!! I am not going to pretend that I am not disappointed that pictures were not included in this blog that showed you falling. I suggest you re-enact what happened and have someone take a picture of it

Nice conclusion. Nice tip on how not to remove planks (although some may call it common sense).

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05/29/2009 8:35 AM

Thanks for the comment, Jaxy. In retrospect, I would have videotaped the entire DIY project. After all, a video called "Moose Falls Through Deck" probably would have gone viral on YouTube.

Common sense seemed to be at odds with effiency here. Originally, it seemed more efficient (in terms of steps) to work across the boards in rows. But after I fell through the decking and had to take a lengthy coffee break to stop seeing stars, I realized that "efficiency" was the real illusion.

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06/01/2009 7:06 PM

If you did actually see "stars" after your fall, this is a sign of a serious concussion.

If you are having severe headaches, this would indicate that you have suffered a "concussion".

I was once kicked in the head, saw stars, and had severe headaches for a couple of years afterwards.

(I thought I was having emotional problems, but they do not necessarily cause severe headaches, according the medical literature.) A concussion will cause headaches according to what I have heard over the the years.

Anyway, if since you saw "stars" you have headaches, I encourage you to visit a doctor, especially if they have become severe since your fall.

I am not a doctor, but I have suffered a concussion.

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05/30/2009 1:52 AM

Not so bad really; good exercise, though keeping the railing for balance may have been handy. Another success for the maintenance department

Considering the materials and age, could be chemically treated lumber is worth neither the expense or toxicity. Pseudotsuga menziesii (Douglas fir), Liriodendron tulipiferais (yellow poplar); very soft when fresh cut but cures to very hard plank, responds well to CWF—clear wood finish.

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05/31/2009 6:05 AM

I don't understand it...there's no mention of beer.
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06/01/2009 11:38 AM

I didn't need any to fall through the deck.

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06/01/2009 4:34 PM

Hey, any demolition you live through is a good demolition. I have to admit, if I was destroying a deck I probably would have suffered a few more injuries, but that's not saying much.

I once tried to remove a giant tree trunk from the back yard, but the roots were tough. Let's just say that at one point I thought it would be more efficient if gasoline and fire were involved.......it wasn't.

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