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HiTekRedNek Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 44.56024"N 15.307971E Posts: 8277 Good Answers: 270	Fly Paper for Vehicles? 04/27/2015 11:11 AM
	I recently purchased a sticky trap for pest control,and I was amazed at how very sticky it really is,and how fast and tenaciously it grabs and holds. It made me wonder if such an adhesive,applied to one side of a Kevlar mat could be used to stop vehicles instead of stop-strip spikes. Cars can still keep running after hitting the spike strips,but with a properly designed adhesive strip, it would wrap around the axles or spindles and bring the vehicle to a stop. It could also be designed to stop heavier vehicles for security purposes. Has anyone seen anything like this? My google search turned up some adhesive vehicle stoppers,but none quite like the one I propose. Thanks in advance for any feedback. __________________ "A man never stands so tall as when he stoops to help a child." "Never argue with a stupid person.They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" "To create an apple pie from scratch, first you must create a universe"
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#10 "Re: Fly Paper for vehicles?" by HiTekRedNek on 04/27/2015 2:10 PM (score 2)
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phoenix911 Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23647 Good Answers: 420	#1 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 11:22 AM
	no.... you look at the energy it takes to stop that mass and any speed, the physical properties of the vehicle or your proposed 'car catcher' can not endure that kind of stress. Only in cartoons it does. On a lighter note, recently my sister was at my dads house cleaning, and in the garage she stepped in one of thoses sticky mouse traps. they are very sticky. If I had a choice, with the amount of control (digitally) you have on todays car, I would go for electronically disabling it. __________________ “ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
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SolarEagle Guru Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: by the beach in Florida Posts: 33392 Good Answers: 1817	#2 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 11:29 AM
	There's "X net" and "Pit-BUL" vehicle arresting systems already on the market I believe.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8FNR8BryR0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r99VyJtRQIU __________________ All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
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phoenix911 Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23647 Good Answers: 420	#9 In reply to #2 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 2:09 PM
	An here we are trying to capture the elusive Red Chevrolet Cavalier.... Blimey, wrong color..... said in a Steve Irwin voice. __________________ “ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
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HiTekRedNek Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 44.56024"N 15.307971E Posts: 8277 Good Answers: 270	#11 In reply to #9 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 2:15 PM
	It is not hard to catch a cavalier. They never run. It will always be sitting still,or attached to a tow truck. If you do see one running, follow it.It won't go far. Of course,don't tell anyone you saw one running...they won't believe you. One of Government Motors(GM) biggest mistakes. __________________ "A man never stands so tall as when he stoops to help a child." "Never argue with a stupid person.They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" "To create an apple pie from scratch, first you must create a universe"
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phoenix911 Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23647 Good Answers: 420	#12 In reply to #11 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 2:27 PM
	show off, cavalier resident expert..... __________________ “ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
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HiTekRedNek Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 44.56024"N 15.307971E Posts: 8277 Good Answers: 270	#15 In reply to #12 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 3:52 PM
	Sad to say,I had fisrt hand experience with the Cavalier. I tried to sell it,couldnt sell it.Tried to give it away, couldnt give it away. So I towed it way down in the sticks,where they still have outdoor toilets,and parked it beside one of those little brown buildings and left the key in it. I want back six months later,and someone has stolen the outhouse,and left the Cavalier still sitting there. __________________ "A man never stands so tall as when he stoops to help a child." "Never argue with a stupid person.They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" "To create an apple pie from scratch, first you must create a universe"
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Unredundant Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Large hole formally occupied by furry woodland creature. Posts: 3385 Good Answers: 97	#19 In reply to #15 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 5:08 PM
	I you sure the outhouse was stolen? It might have been moved to a better location. __________________ CRTL-Z
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HiTekRedNek Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 44.56024"N 15.307971E Posts: 8277 Good Answers: 270	#22 In reply to #19 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 8:11 PM
	I was wrong.They did not steal the outhouse,they removed it an put the Cavalier over the hole. They had removed both front seats,cut two holes in the floor pan, and put in wooden potty seats over the holes,making a classy two-seater. Dem rednecks is so ingenious! Best use I've ever seen for a Cavalier. __________________ "A man never stands so tall as when he stoops to help a child." "Never argue with a stupid person.They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" "To create an apple pie from scratch, first you must create a universe"
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Unredundant Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Large hole formally occupied by furry woodland creature. Posts: 3385 Good Answers: 97	#28 In reply to #22 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/28/2015 11:36 AM
	That reminds me of an incident where Sears was promoting pre-fab outhouses and as a test, Installed a one at an elderly couples farm. This outhouse had every modern feature, including all stainless steel fixtures. When representatives of Sears called, asking for feedback, the farmer replied "Come and get it, my wife doesn't like it". When the rep asked why, the farmer answered "I cant say, just come and get it". The president of Sears made a personal visit to the farm. He inspected the facility closely while the couple watched. As the president looked into the hole, he caught his goatee on a small crack in the seat,"ouch" he said. The farmers wife blurted out "Ya See!". __________________ CRTL-Z
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phoenix911 Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23647 Good Answers: 420	#30 In reply to #28 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/28/2015 12:19 PM
	as long as we're off topic..... I don't know if this is true or not but,....... A guy got band from Walmart because he was a nuisance. He would go into the changing/dressing room and yell out, "Hey, can some one help me? There's no toilet paper in here." __________________ “ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
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Unredundant Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Large hole formally occupied by furry woodland creature. Posts: 3385 Good Answers: 97	#31 In reply to #30 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/28/2015 12:27 PM
	Walmart? Most likely. What to look for: Men's shoes, with pink drawers down around hairy ankles, below the curtain. __________________ CRTL-Z
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phoenix911 Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23647 Good Answers: 420	#23 In reply to #19 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 8:52 PM
	Yep, neighbor got a cavalier .... There goes the neighborhood. __________________ “ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
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Unredundant Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Large hole formally occupied by furry woodland creature. Posts: 3385 Good Answers: 97	#13 In reply to #11 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 2:30 PM
	If GM had included a aluminum block with silicon impregnated cylinders it would be a grand slam.... __________________ CRTL-Z
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Brave Sir Robin Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: Annapolis, Maryland Posts: 7940 Good Answers: 458	#21 In reply to #13 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 6:54 PM
	I think that was called a Vega.
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PWSlack Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In the bothy, 7 chains down the line from Dodman's Lane level crossing, in the nation formerly known as Great Britain. Kettle's on. Posts: 32175 Good Answers: 839	#17 In reply to #11 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 4:32 PM
	According to recent reports, the engines run and they don't move. That's different... __________________ "Did you get my e-mail?" - "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place" - George Bernard Shaw, 1856
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BruceFlorida Guru Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1688 Good Answers: 145	#3 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 11:45 AM
	I think there is also a lawsuit lottery issue to factor in. Most spike strips have small tube spikes and it takes a couple of seconds for the tire to go flat. A flat on the rear will probably have a low risk of the driver losing control. A flat on the front will pull to one side but a lawyer could argue that the driver had the opportunity to retain control. Thus, a lawyer could argue that any public safety problems are still 100% the responsibility and fault of the person being chased. When you start wrapping the tires and steering linkages with something you risk having an out of control car/truck. Yes, I know they were probably speeding and reckless but they didn't hurt any innocent people until after the officials caused the car to go out of control. Security around military bases and facilities out in the middle of some desert are a different issue. Stopping the car/truck would probably be more important than allowing the driver to maintain control. __________________ Few things limit our potential as much as knowing answers and setting aside questions.
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adreasler Guru Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Illinois, 7 county region (The 'blue dot' that drags the rest of the 'red state' around during presidential elections.) Posts: 3683 Good Answers: 89	#26 In reply to #3 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/28/2015 9:16 AM
	"Security around military bases and facilities out in the middle of some desert are a different issue. Stopping the car/truck would probably be more important than allowing the driver to maintain control." And if they don't have one of those, 'net-guns' to foul the axle and lock the tire up, they'll just shoot at the engine block with a Rocket-Propelled Grenade or a tank shell. That's not against the Geneva Accords, look at my words, they were firing at the Engine Block, the weapons were being used as 'anti-material,' not 'antipersonnel.' The loss of the driver would be 'collateral damage.' (Trust me, when the military does NOT want a vehicle getting close enough to a secure area to cause mischief, that vehicle will NOT get close. Not even the shrapnel will land inside the secure zone, well, I'll say not more than ten pounds, or 2% of the vehicles gross weight, whichever is greater.) __________________ ( The opinions espressed in this post may not reflect the true opinions of the poster, and may not reflect commonly accepted versions of reality. ) (If you are wondering: yes, I DO hope to live to be as old as my jokes.)
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ozzb Guru Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rosedale, Maryland USA Posts: 5197 Good Answers: 266	#4 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 12:02 PM
	It depends on how it needs to be deployed. Most the links Solar gave us to does not show them being deployed. In most cases the stop strips can be pretty much instantanously be deployed. One allowing the officer to choose a vehicle which become necessary with high traffic flow. Maybe An EMP gun instead. __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty, pristine body but rather to come sliding in sideways, all used up and exclaiming, "Wow, what a ride!"
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SolarEagle Guru Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: by the beach in Florida Posts: 33392 Good Answers: 1817	#8 In reply to #4 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 2:05 PM
	" Manually deployed in under 20 seconds, the X-Net employs a unique spiked net design. The barbed spikes in the leading edge of the net pierce the front tires of the moving vehicle. The net then envelopes the front tires and is pulled tight under the vehicle to stop the wheels rotating and bring the vehicle to a standstill. With over four thousand units in service worldwide, this tried and tested system has been adopted and endorsed to cope with the most demanding situations by both military and police forces." http://www.qinetiq.com/services-products/survivability/infrastructure-and-base-protection/Documents/XNet.pdf __________________ All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
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Usbport Guru Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Trantor Posts: 5363 Good Answers: 647	#5 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 12:23 PM
	I saw something like that once. Be careful, though... (heh). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1MtnB8AiTo __________________ Whiskey, women -- and astrophysics. Because sometimes a problem can't be solved with just whiskey and women.
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Unredundant Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Large hole formally occupied by furry woodland creature. Posts: 3385 Good Answers: 97	#6 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 12:36 PM
	How about a giant holographic projection of Janet Reno's face in the road? __________________ CRTL-Z
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HiTekRedNek Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 44.56024"N 15.307971E Posts: 8277 Good Answers: 270	#10 In reply to #6 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 2:10 PM
	That would be considered use of excessive force and have collateral damage to anyone in the area. The police would also be incapacitated,not to mention breaking all mirrors within a one mile radius. Car alarms would sound all over the state,dogs would howl,roosters would crow and gag,vultures would fall out of the sky with nausea. Lemmings would begin marching over a cliff,followed by skunks, and O'Possums(That's an Irish Possum,for those that don't know ) . Dung bettles would converge on the area and try to get a grip on the hologram,creating traction problems for traffic,and tire chains would be required to cross the area. Aside from those minor details, it is a good idea. __________________ "A man never stands so tall as when he stoops to help a child." "Never argue with a stupid person.They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" "To create an apple pie from scratch, first you must create a universe"
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micahd02 Guru Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: No. VA, USA (No, it does NOTu mean "won't go"!) Posts: 1796 Good Answers: 75	#33 In reply to #10 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/28/2015 9:51 PM
	None of that would be true for me. But it WOULD slow me down. Only long enough to leisurely drive over her face several times (forward, reverse, rinse, repeat, etc) before going on my merry way. That would beat a potty stop at McDonald's for giving me a break from the tedium of a long trip. Hilarity ensues! __________________ Been away a while. Miss all my old friends. Some of you I KNOW are still around. Where are the rest?
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Nigh Guru Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South east U.K. Posts: 3695 Good Answers: 93	#7 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 1:59 PM
	Finland tried a more positive stop system, looks perfectly safe. __________________ I didn't have a really important life, but at least it's been funny (Lemmy Kilminster 1945-2015)
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SHOCKHISCAN Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Eastern Arizona mountains on Route 666 about a mile from God's country Posts: 1676 Good Answers: 122	#16 In reply to #7 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 4:09 PM
	WOW! I didn't know you could breed a Mercedes with other makes of automobiles! What does the offspring look like? __________________ They said; "Brain size?" I heard; "Train size?" so I said: "I'll take a small one, thank you."
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wayneelowe Power-User Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 251 Good Answers: 4	#29 In reply to #16 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/28/2015 11:45 AM
	Just look at the current Chrysler lineup, they blended the Daimler ideas with the K cars.
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SimpleMind Guru Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1056 Good Answers: 88	#14 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 3:35 PM
	I'd go with something more traditional... S.M. __________________ Life is complex. It has a real part and an imaginary part.
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PWSlack Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In the bothy, 7 chains down the line from Dodman's Lane level crossing, in the nation formerly known as Great Britain. Kettle's on. Posts: 32175 Good Answers: 839	#18 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 4:34 PM
	Why would one re-invent the wheel (pun intended)? __________________ "Did you get my e-mail?" - "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place" - George Bernard Shaw, 1856
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Unredundant Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Large hole formally occupied by furry woodland creature. Posts: 3385 Good Answers: 97	#20 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 5:16 PM
	You could cross a greyhound with a pit bull (pronounced "pip bowl" in the hood) and get a tirebiter intercepter. __________________ CRTL-Z
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SolarEagle Guru Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: by the beach in Florida Posts: 33392 Good Answers: 1817	#24 In reply to #20 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/27/2015 10:31 PM
	Been done.... __________________ All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
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Unredundant Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Large hole formally occupied by furry woodland creature. Posts: 3385 Good Answers: 97	#27 In reply to #24 Re: Fly Paper for vehicles? 04/28/2015 9:29 AM
	My new desktop background! Thanks. __________________ CRTL-Z
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wayneelowe Power-User Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 251 Good Answers: 4	#25 Re: Fly Paper for Vehicles? 04/27/2015 11:25 PM
	And what is your plan for after you stop the offender? Insect spray?
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StandardsGuy Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North America, Earth Posts: 4528 Good Answers: 106	#32 Re: Fly Paper for Vehicles? 04/28/2015 1:19 PM
	Maybe an Obama border guard would work: __________________ “I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” - Richard Feynman
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