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Material Failure

06/23/2015 3:28 AM

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Pipe Spec SA106 Gr.B

Feed Spec Hot air (800 deg.c.)(Press 760mmwc)

Please tell how long this pipe will survive??

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Re: Material Failure

06/23/2015 5:05 AM

Proportional to wall thickness, which hasn't yet been specified. However, at that temperature, the constant of proportionality is likely to be quite low. (I don't have the strength reduction chart to hand). You might do better with one of the stainless steels, with less wall thickness.

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06/23/2015 5:09 AM

Not enough information.

How about:

1. Pipe dimensions

2. Flow rates

3. Air composition

What is the general process?

It could last hours, days or not at all.

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06/23/2015 10:13 AM

Invitation declined. Please discuss the issue at site, viewing the equipment with the Engineer/Surveyor from the company that supplied burst/collapse indemnity insurance cover for the plant, and follow that individual's recommendations, which will be stated on a periodic report document located in the facility's General Register.

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Re: Material Failure

06/23/2015 12:16 PM

If the pipe has failed I would think that question has been answered....

http://www.amerpipe.com/products/carbon-pipe/a106/specifications

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Re: Material Failure

06/23/2015 12:48 PM

I put a replacement tyre on Renee's moped yesterday. He asked me a very similar question.

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06/23/2015 5:36 PM

The pipe will survive until it fails.

It will fail at the weakest point.

I have forwarded your question on to Carnac the Magnificent.

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06/23/2015 8:12 PM

I have an app for that....

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06/24/2015 3:38 AM

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06/23/2015 11:19 PM

With an operating temperature of 800 deg celcius, A106B is not the suitable material. A more suitable option would be CrMo or CrMOV. Consult your manufacturers spec. to find a suitable material. At any rate 800 degree C seems a bit high as superheated steam in power stations usually run at about 520 deg.

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06/24/2015 1:16 PM

Based upon the low pressure (if you indeed meant to say 760mm water column), with a very substantial heat, I say it will last right up to the time it implodes, which is about now, from when I started typing, about 30 seconds. SA106 is not structurally sound with any differential pressure at such temperatures, unless you have your engineering units way off.

This appears to be a low carbon steel with slight addition of Mo, and Ni. I really would not use such high temperature with this pipe, unless it merely contains a small zone within the pipe that is such a high temperature (as a small heated filament, etc.) The entire pipe may not reach such temperatures in any environment you have and be expected to be in service for long.

http://www.amerpipe.com/products/carbon-pipe/a106/specifications

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Re: Material Failure

07/01/2015 7:28 PM

Deepesh,

It is important for you to understand that the very reason that chrome moly materials exist is for high temperature applications such as the one you describe.

If carbon steel did not suffer from rapid graphitization from exposure at high temperatures, there would be no market for the higher chrome-moly alloy materials to be offered on the market.

With the low pressure that you describe, I believe that a 304/316 austenitic stainless steel duct/pipe may be of modest cost and suit your needs.

The A106 Gr B is sold in piping dimensions and wall thicknesses that you do not require.

Tell us more about the diameter of the pipe that you require and how you reached the 800C design temperature (is this a guess ?????)

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