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Question About Polarization in My Sunglasses

07/17/2015 2:36 AM

I just got some polarized sunglasses recently and noticed something strange with the polarizing characteristics of the lens.

The lens is CR39. I can't remember if it was like this a week or so back, but I've been wearing it and today I put it in front of my computer screen, titled the glasses, and noticed there are spots of what I assume to be unpolarized areas. Can anyone explain what's going on? Is this a byproduct stress from the molding? from the cutting? or something else?

Here is a pic of it, you'll see there are unpolarized spots at the edges.

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07/17/2015 2:55 AM

Use cocaine. It will contract your pupils so much that you won't notice these almost invisible areas.

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07/17/2015 3:37 AM

You must have an experience like this before Tornado. I bet.

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07/17/2015 3:13 AM

Looks like stress warp, but also could be a trick of polarization interacting with the LED display...

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07/17/2015 3:22 AM

I took another photo of it in front of a blank white piece of paper, but with my dslr and polarizing filter on my lens and it gave the same results, so LED display was ruled out as the cause.
But indeed, it does look like stress warps. Is this common with polarized glasses?

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07/17/2015 11:53 AM

The polarization of lenses is highly angular in nature, so using 2 polarized lenses together with yield different results depending on the angle of the light striking the lenses and the orientation of each lens to the other...the bending of a polarized lens then alters the angle of the light with reference to the lens resulting in a variance of effectiveness of light blocking ability...

http://www.polarization.com/water/water.html

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07/17/2015 3:41 AM

Stress warp, probably polarization treatment was given while the glasses were not bent. Bending it to fit the frame consequence such as this.

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07/17/2015 7:07 AM

It may be circular polarized not linear. If you try the same 3D glasses, used for 3D movies, you should get the same results. i have been doing some experiments on linear polarization of a line laser attempting to reduce laser speckle for use on laser triangulation sensors.

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07/17/2015 7:30 AM

Stress in glass causes birefringence or rotation of the plane of polarization. This effect is used to study stress in glass lenses. You can see the "splotches" of dark and light if you look at a polarized source like a reflection or the sky through a car window. To study stress in structures, models are made from plexiglass, a plastic in which the effect is strong.

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07/17/2015 9:33 AM

I didn't explain birefringence very well. I should have said it is converting the plane polarized light to circularly polarized light. Here's how it works. A birefringent material like calcite or glass under stress has two optical perpendicular axes. Light polarized parallel to one axis travels slower than light polarized parallel to the other.

If the light is polarized at an angle to both axes, you might think it would travel at an intermediate speed, but such is not the case. It breaks into two beams, polarized parallel to the two axes, and each travels a different speed.

If light is polarized 45 degrees to the axes, what happens is one beam falls behind the other, so that the liner light wave becomes circular. As it falls further behind, it becomes plane polarized at 90 degrees from the original, then to circular, and back to the original plane. When it is circular, your polarizer in your sunglasses doesn't block it, so it results in a bright spot.

In the plastic, the birefringent effect is different for different wavelengths, so cancellation is color dependent, resulting in the pretty colors.

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07/17/2015 4:14 PM

Not that it matters greatly but, the stress lines seen in your example and in the plastic eating utensils and in the other in Wiki photo are molded in stresses resulting from the injection molding process used to make them.

The OP's example, I believe, is caused by post molding stresses induced by the frame.

Not sure it worth popping the lenses out of the frame to find out.

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07/17/2015 7:45 AM

Oh wow this is all very interesting! Is this found often among sunglass makers? Is this something standard that people normally don't notice?

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07/17/2015 8:45 AM

Is this something standard that people normally don't notice?

Of course. Most people do not know the mechanics of polarization. I tell everyone to test their polarized sunglasses by looking thru 2 sets of glasses and rotating one set 90 degrees. You should get a total dark and not be able to see thru the lenses when rotated.

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07/17/2015 8:50 AM

Are these stress marks common in sunglass manufacturing?

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07/17/2015 11:40 AM

When I was young lad, my dad, who was a smoker, took the cellophane off the cigarette package and put it between two polarizers to show me the colors. I've been hooked every since.

https://www.google.com/search?q=cellophane+tape+polarized+light&espv=2&biw=1264&bih=571&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMInfqf3r7ixgIVjAuSCh1uFAIp#imgrc=_

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07/17/2015 2:56 PM

I see a surgeon in action, on someones skull... 's cool !!!

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07/17/2015 8:57 AM

I'm a bit more interested in the 2nd stage of Falcon and what caused its failure. your defective glasses very quickly put me into a coma

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07/17/2015 9:56 AM

I find both this post and your space postings interesting.

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07/18/2015 2:00 AM

Good blog.

It sounds as though we should "check" such glasses before buying them.....

The only time (many years ago) that I had two pairs of Polaroid sunglasses in my hands to test together, both went black with no fringing as shown in these (excellent) pictures.

These here appear to have been badly made, but am I wrong to say that??? Do they still do the job well?

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01/22/2016 2:53 AM

It depends on the quality of sunglasses you are purchasing.I had tried purchasing sunglasses online you can check online which will help you to compare the cost and product to.

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07/18/2015 9:08 AM

You want a pair of good "blue blockers" dark glasses cause the pupils to dilate and since dark does not control sufficiently the UV you can have eye damage. Blue blockers as the name claims controls the UV (blue) spectrum providing a crisper image with out the pupils dilating to compensate for the darker lens. Any way this is how it was explained to me by a military eye specialist.

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07/18/2015 10:58 AM

Makes sense.

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07/19/2015 7:09 PM

I believe the issue here is the manufacture of the actual lens and the type of polarizing film technology used. Sure they all claim they are polarized, but note that the polarizing film location determines the quality and hence the price tag. Cheaper polarizing techniques place the polarization film either on the front or the back of the lens (usually the back - as in your case). More expensive, durable and optically clearer polarizing will be in between two 'plates' of tinted lens.

There are typically three types of manufacture processes: Vacuum Forming, Injection Molding and Press Polish forming as explained here. I would guess from your pictures it would be vacuum formed.

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Re: Question About Polarization in My Sunglasses

07/28/2016 1:28 AM

Hi there, according to me this has happened because the quality of your sunglass was not good. As I had also bought a pair of polarized sunglasses and I have not faced such things. I have bought it from an online store where they offer best deals on sunglasses with a high quality. If you buy your sunglasses from the right place, then you will not face such problem.

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