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More El Nino

08/13/2015 8:12 AM

I posted a bit on this a few months ago. It now strongly appears this weather event will be in place this winter Calif might finally get some relief!

http://ktla.com/category/news/local-news/

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08/13/2015 9:31 AM

What might have cause that?

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08/13/2015 9:44 AM

If you read the entire article, there is some explanation there. You could also Google "El Nino" to gain more information on it's cause.

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08/13/2015 10:01 AM

.....just making a point...few people on a forum do in fact "take the time to read anything in it's entirety", thank you for actually doing so prior to responding either pro or con

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08/13/2015 9:45 AM

Do you really have to ask that? We all know that EVERY weather event a bit outside the boundaries of normal will be attributed to Global Warming.

I froze my butt off last winter and had several long living bushes and trees freeze out. Of course this has been attributed to Global Warming.

We suddenly are in a period of less hurricanes in the Atlantic and, despite predictions to the opposite effect, this is Global Warming.

(Note: let's not start a discussion on that - I have seen the logic behind both statements above and say it may be plausible.)

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08/13/2015 9:55 AM

dont get me started on that farce

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08/13/2015 10:22 AM

Interesting.

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08/13/2015 10:51 AM

"Man-made climate change" is the new "Global Warming".

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08/13/2015 11:02 AM

Yes there is climate change, and it is nothing new. Been happening for millions of years over and over. We are in an abnormally cool period and headed back to temperatures where the Earth historically has been, many times. Is man helping this? Maybe a bit, but it is happening with or without us. Mass extinctions happen and we aren't stopping this one. Learn to love to eat lizard steaks - not beef steaks.

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08/13/2015 11:20 AM

if cows stopped farting so much the planet would cool off

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08/13/2015 11:32 AM

You caucasian should stop eating burgers and steaks

CH4 at all cost should be recovered.

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08/13/2015 11:48 AM

Oh just pull my finger.

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08/13/2015 12:57 PM

Why they just replace the 50 million bufalo we killed off here in the USA an numerous other game animals. You telling me they did fart too.

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08/14/2015 5:04 PM

I'm doing my part by eating those gas producers! That cow isn't going to fart anymore!

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08/13/2015 11:39 AM

You think that's a problem? Check out what rice paddies release in the way of methane. Never heard Mr. Gore mention that fact. The third world and poor are to blame as well as the developed countries for greenhouse gasses, which leads quickly back to this being a natural cycle, that we are helping along a bit. In the warm periods, swamp (paddy) type plants flourished - methane gas levels were high.

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08/13/2015 11:43 AM

if you eat rice and cheeseburgers your face belongs on a wanted poster! methane is 23 times worse than carbon but few know this once you takle that stop evaporation, water vapor is the main greenhouse gas

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08/14/2015 10:47 PM

Did the 2 have correlation then, in this plot. Why is it that CH4 concentration is dominant up North, while basically the warming is near the equator, (tropics).

In fact, in this case, CH4 had even helped insulating the Polar North.

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08/13/2015 11:54 AM

Let the graphs and stats conclude don't point fingers

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08/13/2015 12:03 PM

That's the point - I'm not pointing fingers. But many, especially Mr. Gore are. There is a definite warming going on but it is basically a natural cycle of the Earth. We can blow billions to fight it - but we'll lose the war. Warmer temperatures are coming - man be damned. We may aid the warming a bit but we'll not stop it.

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08/13/2015 12:04 PM

Only 15 years of data?

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08/13/2015 12:24 PM

only ine member posts gif's so why hide as anon?

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08/13/2015 6:15 PM

Oh the big bad wolf will see, he aint happy someone knew and disturb his circles and models in simulation. The jesters with a swiss knife can see

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08/13/2015 12:18 PM

Then it's time to stop breeding cows, then, and go veggy.

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08/14/2015 3:06 PM

Just so the diet doesn't include rice. See post 14 about methane in large quantities generated by flooded rice paddies.

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08/13/2015 11:12 AM

Seem like impossible to blame on carbon emission from fossil fuel.

Recalling from the basic chemical formula of bio-geochemical cycle of carbon and oxygen

CO2 + H2O + Sunlight =>photosynthesis=> C6H12O6(organic matter) + O2 , increasing Carbon concentration in the atmosphere would only improve and compensate productivity in plants/producers.

Also in burning fossil fuel or hydrocarbon HC or HCS, for liquid fuels, Hydrogen is dominant number of molecule and we know the by-product H and O is water/moisture. Automobile uses for most liquid fuel.

Neither the hours of days and night where delayed causing increase in temperature differences.

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08/13/2015 9:54 AM

El Nino Estupido.

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08/13/2015 10:19 AM

ver para su mismo un espejo puto, que pasa si la causa es masgrande que la mariposa aleteando sus alas en mejico?

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So am I.

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08/13/2015 6:03 PM

Yes, and next spring they will all be crying when their mansions get washed into the ocean by the floods.

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08/13/2015 6:56 PM

The troubles they have in California is the scarcity of desirable real estate (plus the wonderful views) has people building up the sides of these hills/mountains. There is not much rock (like in Cow Hampshire) so when it rains, the soil gets saturated and slides to the bottom of the hill. Sometimes it's into the ocean, other times it's into a valley.

I remember the CA Hwy 1 north of San Francisco. Rode that almost every Sunday morning. Clearly, there were places where the road was slowly but surely headed for the ocean. It was only about an inch or so per year, but periodically, they would have to rip up the pavement, add a little dirt and lay it back down again.

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08/14/2015 2:03 PM

That is why I live in New England, and away from the ocean. My house is not likely to go anywhere in the foreseeable future, except quietly, a few centimeters to the NW, with the rest of North America.

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08/13/2015 8:10 PM

Yep, that's what an El Nino looks like. It should bring us more storms, but it means the fishing industry along the Pacific coast is in for a real hard spell.

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08/14/2015 12:08 PM

I must re-post three external sites of interest, RE: El Nino--Weather West, by Daniel Swain (latest post in early August), and Storm Surf, with a video blog every week, about thirty minutes…The first part is about surf predictions, but the latter is all El Nino- Available in print also, from the site….-Also, Mammothweather.com, by Harold Scheckler, is a good site. These guys get into the real dynamics of the pattern. Enjoy!

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08/14/2015 12:23 PM

good resources

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08/14/2015 3:08 PM

Great Droughts ALWAYS end in Great Floods.

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