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Laundry Pro by Aerus
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At $800.00 USD, it'd better work.

It's one of these things that bubbles ozone into the water.

No clue if it works, but they must be selling.

Probably the tech is like that of eliminating bacteria and micro organisms in drinking water probably IR tech, I guess.
Don't you mean UV tech? I've never seen IR tech used in water treatment!

Don't feed the trolls.

Yeah.... I just wanted to SHUT HIM UP!

Whatever he is calling himself now!

It was a moment of weakness, but I know it will probably backfire on me!

I liked the family portrait.....

Yep, I probably sleigh of hand that one.

The only problem with no detergent is what about the fatty excretion as a part of sweat. Greasy thingy can not be easily remove on textile and cloth by mechanical means because fat is not that water soluble. Emulsifier is needed for fatty excretion cleaning.

Thus the organic fat will stay on the newly washed laundry, though clean right after UV process is through, sometime later on when you wear it it will be colonized by decomposers such as bacteria and fungi, consequently

May not be as important as you think to remove the fatty excretions.

I am a believer in the "magic" of wool. I wear the same wool sleeveless undershirt for riding bike for months on end with no washing. (I wash it about twice per year) It never smells bad and never seems to get greasy as you would imply. (my wife has a very sensitive nose and would definitely complain should it ever smell bad)

Wool in the best material, for warmth and breathability

I would agree with you in the condition that you wear it on a dry cool environment.

You can not make that habit in a humid and wet climate, like the tropics. A daily bath and change clothing is required, all day in a year, not unless , you want to live in isolation far from the public, probably.

The fact is skin microbes produces odor needless of clothing, down here.

Generally, if you would just wash wool and cotton clothing in this type of washing machine, its not anymore cost efficient and wise by the way. Don't you think?

Good pictures. It seems that you answered one question if you would buy one.

Gosh, I hope you didn't pay $800.00 USD, if you only knew the wholesale price.

The directions say horizontal install, your picture looks vertical (?)

Oxidizers work by adding oxygen to the stain and altering its appearance.

What is more effective is adding surfactants to the cleaning solution.

What surfactant are is organic chemicals that change the properties of water and what it accomplishes is reduce the surface tension of the water to enable the cleaning solutions to wet the surface and loosing the 'dirt' for removal.

You never heard of OXYCLEAN? This appears to be a direct injection of ozone into the cleaning process.

Isn't this the same as ozone generators used to keep spas and hot tubs clean?

Briefly,.....You have to understand the ionization attraction of what's going on.

The physical chemistry is somewhat fascinating.

I'm skeptical....without a valid explanation of how this device works in detail, I then look at the legal disclaimer....

http://www.aerushome.com/legal/

Oh Great! And here I thought your link was safe to open "EXCEPT AS REQUIRED BY LAW, AERUS WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE OR LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGE OR INJURY CAUSED BY, AMONG OTHER THINGS, ANY FAILURE OF PERFORMANCE; ERROR, OMISSION, INTERRUPTION, DELETION, DEFECT OR DELAY IN OPERATION OR TRANSMISSION; COMPUTER VIRUS; COMMUNICATION LINE FAILURE; THEFT, DESTRUCTION OR UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO, ALTERATION OF OR USE OF ANY DATA. AERUS WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR THE ACTIONS OF THIRD PARTIES.

Laundry Pro worked so well it even cleaned my hard drive without being ask to

Does it work on black money, too?

When they have such dense "We ain't responsible for nuttin!" leagaleeze for their WEBSITE, you just KNOW they're completely honest and above boar-*COUGH*COUGH*WHEEZE*GAG*

Sorry, I choked on my own sarcasm there.

The device uses something called " cleansing oxidizers " .

Hmmm... Oxidizers? Chlorine Bleach? Oxy-Clean? Hydrogen Peroxide? Or?

It occurs to me that introducing the wrong oxidizer into a washing machine that has oil or brake fluid contaminated items might result in an unwanted reaction and possibly an explosion or fire.

I would bet money this is nothing more than a remote mounted injection system that introduces one or a combination of cleaning fluids already used in the domestic clothes cleaning process.

I would also bet money that the initial purchase of the proprietary chemical(s) used is low however any successive purchases of the proprietary cleaning chemical will spiral upwards rapidly far offsetting any possible savings on energy.

My washing machine already has a built in bleach/cleaning chemical injection system that works well.

that's were the disclaimer con into effect.

I think its interesting to use 'natural' or 'organic' chemicals as a marketing tool.

How is organic chemicals different from synthetic chemicals?

And where is that line drawn between the two?

A Florida FOX affiliate tested one.

See this.

Let's see I can get 75oz of tide for $9... good for 48 loads, I do one load a week....so say $10 a year , my payback would be ~75 years....but it's only got a 2 year warranty...maybe if I did 20 loads a week...no 30 no 40 ok 50 loads a week....

Well I think everybody should know you have to soak a stained garment....

At least wash your undershirt once in a while, the bikers behind you will thank you. One load a week for ALL your laundry? So towels, sheets, and underware are combined? You engineers are so cheap!

Any time I see something like this, I recall some testing of those laundry ball things you toss in that actually clean the clothes. Then, when they ran the same tests with just plain water at the same temperature, they got the exact same levels of cleaning.

Aaaahhhh, the laundry placebo effect.

Sounds like a candidate for Ronco.

Some water and some rocks does a pretty respectable job of cleaning clothes.

I have this 150-kW Chinese ball mill. The girth gear has about 60 mm of backlash, and is rather noisy, but boy does this thing ever clean a ton of laundry at a time. If I upgrade from 50 Hz to 60 Hz, can I do 1.2 tons per load? Will I have to change out the bearings?

"No detergent, you say?"

Alrighty then, stone wash in just a few minutes

But the rumbly banging noise from the washing machine will drive you crazy!

Tonto "Wash in stream, dry in sun"?

Since I posted this question, I probably should say what I heard from the show representative.

This is not an endorsement for the product.

1. There was a statement on product warranty. The manufacturer gives a 2 year warranty. Let's make some comparisons: first, most products you buy have a 1 year warranty, you go to Best buy, you buy a $1500.00 TV, you get a 1 year warranty, you go to Toyota, you buy a $30,000 Highlander, you get a 3 year warranty, you go to Chevrolet, you buy a $12,000 cavalier you get a 3 year warranty. You would be hard pressed to find something for $700.00 that has a 2 year warranty.

2. If you only wash 1 load of laundry a week, this product may not be for you. Then again, the sales brochure indicates that the device was tested for the average size family, I'm guessing that would be two adults and three children, so they would probably do at least two loads a day on average. The brochure also indicates other things such as : Going green, allergic to soap ingredients, soap residues etc. Clearly the product is not for everyone, about the only product for everyone could be bottled water.

3. I will call the company engineers and ask them about reactions with oily fabrics, I will do this tomorrow in the morning.

4. As for " water and rocks " , wasn't there a Seinfeld episode on that one ?

5. As for the picture of the foot, I can't understand anything he posts anyway.

RE: 2 year warranty. Go to Harbor freight, Lowes or Home Depot and you can but (yes, it's extra) a 2 year extended wazrranty that takes effect after the original warranty runs out - usually between 1 & 3 months. Cost? well I just bought a chain saw from Lowes and the 2 year extended warranty, Cost for the extension? $29.00 So, yes, you can get 2 year warranties.

For a new technology with such claims, I would want a money back guarantee, including any installation costs along with any shipping or related costs....also there are no claims I can see of how many loads it does...but for me, the legal disclaimer says it all...

If I put one on my car, will it double my mileage??

What? Going to and from the Laundromat?

Only if you have a VW diesel and some crafty software!

I just leave my clothes on IF I have a shower. Figure both getting done at the same time if I make the effort to do one.

Swimming with clothes on is a labour savour.

And your closet is the clothes dryer,.... right?

Wash & Wear is old tech. Did you use any soap in the shower? Why not just open the windows and sunroof when getting a car wash? Then you kill three birds with one of your laundry stones!

Eureka!

this is usually what happens after fridays not bad!-hitting 2 birds in one stone.

That's all I have to say on "non-detergent" laundry cleaners.

Ok. Here is the information I obtained:

1. The parent company for Aerus/ Laundry Pro, is : Air Scrubber Plus. The corporate office is in Dallas, Tx. The manufacturing plant is in Bristol, Va.

2. I called Aerus and asked the customer service representative several questions: a. Oily clothing and its reaction to flash fire. b. Fat emulsification. c. Recharge of chemicals (?) contained within device.

I am waiting for a response from engineering department.

Aerus is a company combined with: Electrolux & Activtek

I thought that looked familiar...

That model Electrolux kept our house clean for at least 25 years then became the shop vac in the garage for a long time. They were sold door-to-door and serviced by the salesman. The hose was a pliable cloth woven tube and it lasted forever. Where did you find it?

"I am waiting for a response from engineering department."

I'm expecting this to be a "don't hold your breath" scenario. Any answers to those questions that don't run counter to Physics and Chemistry will reveal the device to be pure snake oil: It oxidizes the chemicals that cause the stains, which 'makes the stain disappear,' but it does not remove the staining chemicals. It also will, at best, do nothing for fatty deposits, such as the skin oils that the clothing has acquired, and at worst, will cause horrible things to happen if it comes in contact with oils that ignite when oxidized.

Considering they have a "We ain't responsible for nuttin!" disclaimer for accessing their WEBSITE, I suspect their fine print for the 'cleaner' has similar language, absolving themselves of any responsibility if the cleaner, when used as directed, starts a fire in the washing machine and burns down the house.

what can I say, birds have good eye sight