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Concept Of Variable Frequency Drive

04/05/2016 11:25 PM

Guys, we have 132 kW, 1000 rpm motor for fan application. Normally we were started the motor by using dol starter. It consumes 50 kW at 30% of damper position in 1000 rpm. Suction draft is enough as per our process requirements.is there any chances to save the power If I go for vfd...?

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Re: Concept of variable frequency drive

04/05/2016 11:43 PM

What is your position in this hypothetical process?

What, if anything, have you done to discover the answer to your question?

Your past posts do not bode well for your technical ability.

Finally, why are you running a 132 kW motor at 50 kW?

Answer all questions, in detail!

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04/06/2016 12:12 AM

The short answer is "yes", but that still leaves the question of whether the energy saved will outweigh the expense of the VFD. It might be better to change the fan impeller and the motor instead, unless there are times when greater flow and/or pressure are needed.

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04/06/2016 12:18 AM

The way that a VFD saves energy in a centrifugal load, such as a centrifugal fan, is by reducing the LOSSES in the system. So IF you are VARYING the flow to match the process you are using this for, then you have two basic options on varying that flow: mechanical restriction, such as dampers, and changing the motor speed such as with a VFD. Both methods reduce energy when flow is reduced, but a VFD reduces the energy MORE than the dampers will.

If you use a damper to reduce flow, there are losses associated with that method; fixed energy losses in the motor, friction losses as the air moves over the dampers, turbulence losses that are being converted to heat in the air stream, noise in the air (which, believe it or not, represents energy input), etc. But still, as you have observed, restricting the flow to 30% nets an energy reduction (we don't know what the energy input is at full flow, so we can't say how much).

When you reduce the flow by reducing speed, you are doing so without adding those comparative losses, plus you also reduce some of the fixed losses inside of the motor itself. The general formula always used is that the energy required by the fan reduces at the CUBE of the speed change. So for example at 50% speed, the energy input required by the fan from the motor is dropped to 12.5% (.5 x .5 x .5 = .125) of what it would have been at full speed. But speed does not directly equate to flow, so you can't assume that 50% speed = 50% flow, it doesn't work that way because you must overcome static pressure first.

Still, the vast majority of situations where a VFD replaces a damper system result in significant energy savings, but only IF there is VARIATION in flow rates. In other words you must have sometimes when you need 100% flow, other times when you need 75% flow, and times when you need only 30% flow. If you ALWAYS need the SAME amount of flow, then a VFD will NOT save you any energy compared to just using a smaller motor.

What we DON'T know in your situation is what your entire flow profile looks like and what your energy consumption is for that flow profile. Without that, nobody can help you determine in advance whether or not you will save energy.

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04/06/2016 8:02 AM

Excellent and through response, and I'll have to check the link out.

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Re: Concept of variable frequency drive

04/06/2016 6:55 AM
  • If here is a supply maximum capacity issue on the incoming cables, or
  • If there is a per-kWh electrical tariff in place

Then it might be possible to justify investing in a VFD on the basis of not needing to up-size the cables or on the power saved.

  • If the damper position is such that 50kW is the maximum power ever taken

Then it would be better to right-size the motor, its protection arrangements and the fan, fully open the damper and forget about a VFD. That way, investment in a smaller-sized motor releases the larger-sized one for redeployment elsewhere.

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Re: Concept of variable frequency drive

04/06/2016 8:04 AM

Note to add regarding the option of changing the motor vs. VFD installation- changing the motor will likely lead to greater energy savings than installing a VFD to yield the same end result, as the VFD has its own losses. However, you need to calculate the correct fan rpm to provide adequate suction at full open damper position to fully achieve this potential, or else you continue to lose that parasitic loss.

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