I Demand You Replace Me!

Unskilled labor

Won't be long before the UFCW begin to try to organize these robots... on the basis that robots are people too.

...and they get to use whichever bathroom they want....

skirts are optional?

they'd probably end the confusion and turn it into a closet.

They should all look like Ronald...

It's coming . . . .

People denied a source of income will turn to theft....which will then lead to robot police because of the high cost of enforcement, which will lead to automated incarceration, which will lead to superhackers, which will lead to revolution, which will lead to Idiocracy...

We are all doomed....

People denied a source of income will turn to theft.

First off,....Who is denying these people you talk about, an income?

^{The rest is fiction.....}

http://www.cts-america.com/products/smartjail/

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/meet-south-koreas-new-robotic-prison-guards/#:WeCdsdMJzMNaVA

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/early-2016-robot-cops-patrolling-streets-no/

I guess people can demand an income,.... I myself have always felt that an income is earned.

If someone get paid an income of $10,000.00 for $5,000.00 worth of work, good for them.... but don't count on it lasting forever.

whats even worse is a vote hungry CROOK ed politicians promising to pass laws forcing businesses to close or comply....it'ts insane to think how America has eroded

And what percentage of workers that made less then $10,000/ year .... actually less than $5,000.00/year (mid 80's time frame) when they were age 25 and decided that if they wanted to change that, it was up to them and did.

I know of one.

You seem to have the attitude that nothing has changed in 30 years....or is it just your thinking that has not changed....Yeah you could buy a car for $2500 or a house for $25k and feed a family for $50 a week...Kids toys were $2 or $3...TV was free and telephone bill was cheap....If you were living back then, things would be fine....College was cheap...there was always a neighbor to watch the kids, or a babysitter for a few dollars...gas was $.32 a gallon...and a visit to the doctor was not a financial threat to your family...Yes, things have changed.....

So you think everybody has the same abilities? The same opportunities? The same energy and drive to succeed?

If you were on a ship that had to be abandoned and you were able to escape to a life raft, and you could see there were several others that were not as strong swimmers, would you sit there and watch them drown shouting I made it, so can you, as they went under? Or would you paddle over to them and help them out of the water?

It's the strong that help the weak, you do what you can...This is a strong nation, but the strength lies in the people as a whole...

Take it a step further,,,, even at $15.00/Hr with your math, it's still only sitting at $30k. But,, then bear in mind that this type of job is rarely full time. If you are lucky enough to get 2 or 3 shifts a week, you are probably lucky. Doing the math if you get 3 "full" shifts a week(again not likely) for the entire year you still only make $18,720.00 .

Doesn't appear to me that the 51% or 38% is going to change any.

Healthcare costs for the average family has just hit $25k a year....

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/24/health-care-costs-for-families-top-25000--triple-2001.html

Yes and how many of this type of job have health care costs as a benefit?? Not sure in the U.S., but here, the vast majority of part time jobs do not include health care costs, but, the government (we the tax payers) do cover everyone for a lot of basic necessities.

That's gross income, net income is even lower....

http://www.mybudget360.com/how-much-do-americans-earn-in-2015-household-income-wages-real-income-gdp/

It's actually NOT surprising.

These figures are supplied by the US Social Security Administration. They compile statistics on ALL workers who make more than $400 per year*. I.e., anyone who makes more than $400 per year and files a federal income tax return.

So this category is almost entirely made up of people who work part-time. People with paper routes; people who baby-sit or do part-time day car from their homes; people who deliver pizzas a couple nights a week; teachers who have retired but continue to tutor; Christmas part-time help; college students with summer jobs at the beach or a summer camp;... This list goes on and on.

(*$400 is the amount from about 8 years ago when my wife tutored part-time, the IRS may have since raised the dollar amount needed for reportiing.)

Choose whatever source you want.....how about household median income?

IRS tax data...

Social Security....

US census....

At one time, you had to file if you made more the $3,300.00 it was increased to $3,600.00.

I don't know what it is now.

There are plenty of people that don't work that have a nice income....maybe someday all work will be eliminated...

http://www.businessinsider.com/giving-all-americans-a-basic-income-would-end-poverty-2013-11

What's that, Domino's Pizza theory?

"50 times faster than the average McDonald's employee, with no chance of error."

ROFLMAO!

How about 50 times the errors in no time.

How about $15.00/hour and "Hey!, I ordered #2 and you gave me a #7"

Errors are bound to happen. Just like computers, if you put incorrect or invalid data in, you get crap out.

You must be thinking that they will all have MS operating systems!

Er, and... the robots would be great at ripping the consumers off.

robots don't complain, smoke, text, show up late, take phone calls, have their screw off friends show up for free food, they don't come to work hungover, they aren't counting their hours till they qualify for unemployment. in short, once all the Beta work is in, the robots will be the norm in many unskilled positions. sounds like a "stay in school "ad

Robots break down, get viruses, have to update all the time, require maintenance, use up the electricity, and when they do break down they weigh a ton, good luck moving that thing out of the way....

That what's a good PM program is for. And humans still develop that.

Why do you think corporations will treat robots any better than people?

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"Robots break down..." So many of the (fewer) new jobs that will be created, making, installing, and maintaining robots, will all require significantly higher skill levels than the current jobs.

At least I suspect these robots are still going to need daily cleaning. That will probably still be done by humans, at least for a while...

if the store is a success, 25,000 more robot-run restaurants will be built in the next three years.

who builds these robots?

a smarter educated McsKilled tech

More robots...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/19/travel/china-robot-waiters/

China

One of the hardest jobs I ever had was working at McDonalds for two years. The people I worked with there I respect to this day. They took a hard, stressful job and made the best of it. Truly good people working very hard. If McDonalds could truly automate their stores, then they should, but I'm fairly certain that's not possible. If they can't, then they should pay those good people a livable wage. They work hard enough to deserve it. Look, we aren't going to let people starve in the streets, so we either increase the money we pay to working people or we end up with more non-working people we have to support through government programs. I know which I'd prefer.

Nobody doing their job working for me earns less than $20 per hour, including clerical, mano de obra, etc. They either do the job expected of them or they go elsewhere; if they do the job expected of them they are worth every nickel of the $20. About one-third of hires do not make 90 days and that applies for the likes of those who can not read all the way to those who have professional degrees. Of those who eventually leave after 90 days, less than one fifth are sent away by us, mostly due to changing business conditions in our operations; the rest who leave chose to do so for whatever personal reasons.

The problem with our economy, including globally, is "What do you do with the third who go elsewhere?" Some find their niche at a living wage, but we believe most fall into the category we describe as "Statue of Liberty folks" - scraping by, with some portion of their lifetime needs subsidized by the non-"Statue of Liberty folks" of the $20 per hour caliber and beyond.

If the work ethic is almighty, we believe that instead of our directly subsidizing the "Statue of Liberty folks", we could indirectly subsidize most of them by providing real world work situations in which we subsidize the intense managerial and supervisory talent that is needed to achieve what would appear to most of us as being productive work not achievable without the intense moment by moment oversight effort. I and my associates have had no choice but to personally apply intense management on occasion with projects where the exigencies of the situation demanded our getting things done with the work force of the moment.

I think you have it - work ethic - it isn't common any more. The ones who have it will likely succeed and find work that is better paying. Those that don't are the "me" generation(s). While everyone has "rights", they usually forget they have "responsibilities".

While my people don't all get $20.00, they are paid a fair living wage (in a collective agreement) for our area, and I have very little turnover of people. When they start, they tend to stay and as long as they perform their tasks to the best of their ability to meet the "Norm" they aren't asked to leave either. Over 50% of my people have worked for me more than 10 years and the key people closer to 18 years in a business that is only 21 years old.

By looking at the jobs that exist, and the pay people get for doing those jobs, your logic of thinking that everyone can make more money if they work harder does not hold up....100 million people in this country are working in jobs that don't pay a living wage...working harder at it is not going to change anything....We can't all be managers and executives without workers, you know, the people that actually do the work....

A machine takes many parts to work, some of those parts can cost more that others, some much more, but without the smallest cheapest part the machine will not work, so in the grand scheme of things, the cheap parts are just as valuable as the most expensive ones....

Sadly the people demanding the $15/hr min. are completely off on what needs to be done in this country. We need to stop government waste and that is the only way an average wage earner will be able to support their family!