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Seems Like it Takes Forever

06/10/2016 3:47 PM

This is a motor turning at 200 RPM driving a series of 50-1 reduction gears...Counting the worm gears and accounting for each reduction what is the RPM speed of the final shaft?

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Re: Seems like it takes forever

06/10/2016 4:22 PM

All of the reduction stages are 50:1? I now see 12 stages (more or less see). 200/(50*12)=0.33333333 rpm.

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06/10/2016 4:28 PM

I get 200 x 50-12 = 0.000,000,000,000,000,000,819,2 rpm. Is it supposed to represent anything?

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06/10/2016 4:30 PM

I think so...What is the time it takes to make 1 revolution?

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06/10/2016 4:38 PM

I didn't major in gears. Is it really a power progression? Hell now that I get to actually thinking about it, I suppose that would be. 50-12 so that one revolution takes 5012 minutes. Let me see...2.44140625 x1020 minutes. ONly 4.644989060 x 1012 Centuries!

Why would anyone want to build something like that?

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06/10/2016 4:44 PM

It's made to replace our government public civil servants maybe?

efficiency should improve

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06/10/2016 4:44 PM

In years....

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06/10/2016 4:48 PM

20.56972823 Years to make one revolution.

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06/10/2016 4:58 PM

More than that, I bet. If you grease it from time to time, it might outlast the present universe.

(I get about 2.32 trillion years.)

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06/10/2016 5:14 PM

Not even close yet...

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06/10/2016 5:24 PM

The Windows calculator doesn't put commas after every third digit, so I possibly miscounted. And maybe my count of 12 steps of gear reduction is off, or something to the rear is too hidden in the picture.

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06/10/2016 5:39 PM

No, 12 is correct, you have one to one drive at beginning and end...

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06/10/2016 5:56 PM

Then I stand by the 2.3 trillion year estimate.

Step 0: 200 rpm
1: 4 rpm
2: 12.5 mpr
3: 625 mpr
4: ~520 hpr ~3 weeks/r
5: ~150 wpr ~3 years/r
6: ~150 years
7: ~7500 yr
8: ~375,000
9: ~18 M yr
10: ~0.94 B yr
11: ~46 B yr
12: ~2.33 T yr

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06/10/2016 5:57 PM

Yep, I slipped a gear or two somewhere

Now I get 2,328,875,010,000 years for one revolution. This is twelve step of reduction 50/1.

Or, maybe not.

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06/10/2016 6:12 PM

Ah yes you are correct.....My original source was incorrect....

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06/12/2016 6:42 PM

It's an orrary to show the sun's position as the Milky Way galaxy rotates!

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06/10/2016 6:45 PM

And now we're back to an earlier question of whether this means anything, such as the countdown to hell freezing over.

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06/10/2016 6:47 PM

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06/10/2016 8:14 PM

Well the original source said 13.7 billion years....but after checking the figures this was wrong, so I don't know of any significance of the 2.33 trillion years other than perhaps the slowest clock hand driver in the entire history of mankind....haha

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06/13/2016 10:03 AM

English Billion = American Trillion does it not? It never makes one revolution, since the universe will time out waiting for Windoze 10 to load the screen.

Truly the example on entropy death. The universe will go completely isothermal in that period of time, so the motor will stop before it ever completes that first revolution. The time to drill through the stone at the end, is ridiculous.

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06/13/2016 11:59 AM

With math being a universal language the diffinition of Billions and Trillions is a problem. Of course, in math you'd use scientific notation.

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06/15/2016 12:27 PM

Or use Engineering Notation, that is also immune to the billion/trillion confusion. Then again, Engineering Notation is just a more easily readable offshoot of Scientific Notation.

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06/15/2016 12:43 PM

Yes, just don't spell it out.

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06/11/2016 1:07 AM

Nope it's already been proven, hell has frozen over.

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06/11/2016 2:05 AM

And then there is the proof that Heaven is hotter than Hell, which was anthologized in "The Journal of Irreproducible Results", along with other humorous stories.

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06/11/2016 8:37 AM

Other humorous stories? Have to check it out.

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06/11/2016 2:04 PM

I'll get back to you on November 9.

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06/10/2016 7:45 PM

In the photo there are 4 steps to realign to the input, and 3 stages, therefore there are a total of 3 * 4 steps. So one rpm at the out put equalls (50 to the power of 12) revolutions at the drive, this being the number of revolutions per minutes at the input to equall one revolution per minute at the output, therefore the number of years equalls (50 to the power 12) divided by (200 rpm * 60 min * 24 hours * 365 days.) for one revolution of the output shaft?

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06/11/2016 5:51 PM

365.25 days, (-1 day every 200 years). May not seem like that much but after a few trillion years the difference will add up!

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06/11/2016 8:50 PM

Yes a difference of 1,589,747,854 years. I agree it adds up.

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06/10/2016 9:34 PM

Really, really slow, but think about the output torque!!!

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06/11/2016 2:24 AM

Every 6.4 million years the output shaft would have rotated 1 degree....

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06/11/2016 5:36 AM

Billion rather than million.

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6,446,957,969 years ?

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06/11/2016 1:17 PM

It's a black hole of rpm's....

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06/13/2016 9:22 AM

Yeah, but think of the torque gain, that thing's an Almost Irresistible Force, assuming the device ca handle the forces a load would reflect back into it.

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06/11/2016 7:14 AM

I'm no good at negative exponents. From the other end - how many revs of the motor at the input for 1 turn of the output.

I can't see the detail clearly, but assuming 12 x 50:1 stages, then that is 50^12 = 2.4414062 E20 mins (on my Poundland calculator).

The reciprocal gives the speed of the outlet for 1 rev of the inlet.

Quite slow I would say.

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06/13/2016 10:30 AM

Er, one revolution of the output shaft completes after about 173 times as long as the universe is old at present.

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06/13/2016 12:03 PM

The future is today...

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06/13/2016 1:17 PM

We could add another gearbox to the end to slow the output down.

If we did, would the health and safety brigade require the machine motor to be switched off and isolated whilst we worked on it - ??

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06/13/2016 1:47 PM

OMG, I expect so. ROFLMFAO! Potty mouth strikes again! I would hate for any slow movers of the latest generation to get caught up in the gears!

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06/13/2016 5:08 PM

STOPPPPPPPPPP!

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