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CAD Design for Manufacture Quote

12/07/2017 10:05 AM

When I wasn't posting 'off topic' comments right here I was with my brother out in the garage developing "the next best thing". (that's not an advertisement)

After a few changes and a bit of questionable welding (aka fast) we did some testing and even filed for a patent.

While my skills in Tinker cad are noteworthy they are of little use in the world of industrial design and manufacture. These file types work well for 3D printing etc, but are the equivalent of being in a chess club and only knowing checkers.

It appears there are non-contract CAD designers in the area(craigs), but I thought I'd cast a line in my favorite fishing hole and see if I can get a nibble, a bite, or maybe get pointed elsewhere.

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While there are up to a dozen parts in total. most of them are little more than a cylinder or a screw etc.

The main component/s have a form similar to that of a door hinge with some modification to the overall shape, and the requirement that the hinge be tight enough that it is under permanent tension. (like a stuck hinge in both directions)

example below - (not the design)

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I hand drew the drawings that ended up being used for the patent filing. (didn't expect to use them for that)

Those drawings, other information and a prototype can be provided to whomever does the work.

Ideally we'll find someone who is available both now and down the road.

Someone that could push me in the right direction should I wish to develop my skills with 3D CAD design would be even better.

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...So there it is.

ask questions. I'll reply later.

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Re: CAD design for manufacture quote

12/07/2017 10:14 AM

So,... as I understand from your post, you're looking for someone to do fabrication drawings?

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12/07/2017 10:27 AM

Correct

Someone who can take stuff like this...

and turn it into stuff like this

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12/07/2017 12:38 PM

Don't waste your money, use the sketches. These are the sketches that my highly paid patent attorney submitted with my application that was granted in 2001. An attorney would advise you to disclose only the bare minimum of information to allow "someone well versed in the art" to understand the concept.

Any competent machine shop can work from your sketches in the information is there and correct.

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12/08/2017 9:04 AM

thank you, but your logic is flawed. Getting a request for manufacture can't be done on a napkin.

It can, but it won't save money.

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12/08/2017 9:37 AM

Actually there is merit to Lyn's suggestion. Quick story : when I was about 12 years old, I came up with an idea for a motorized articulating arm that used a sensor to determine distance between two objects. ( I saw a blind person with arthritis trying to use a cane to maneuver among objects strewn along a walkway ) I created sketches. Not knowing how to proceed, I provided the idea to an engineering group and was soon told that the idea would go nowhere.

About 10 years later, I was glancing at a Popular Science magazine and there was an article about my idea. Someone got rich, but it wasn't me.

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12/08/2017 12:55 PM

.. youn just made my point.. one of them.

I've work everything on paper, but multiple quotes require more than youthful enthusiasm if you don't want to field a lot of questions. I know from experience too.

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12/07/2017 10:26 AM

<...someone who is available both now and down the road...> That's what recruitment agencies are for. CR4 doesn't do that, and it's global, which includes countries outside the United States.

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12/07/2017 10:32 AM

Like he stated... he'll first go to his favorite fishing hole first.

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12/07/2017 10:54 AM

Actually, some of the members here do collaborate on items they wish to prototype from time to time. I think it could be a strength added to our community given there needs to be some guidelines:

  • may or may not be for filthy profit motive
  • if for filthy profit, all contributors should have a means of taking their fair share, and not a penny more out of the effort - this gets complicated, and probably would require PM's, legal and binding ND agreement, and other process items to be signed off on - not to mention risk management
  • if not for filthy profit - all of the items related to risk management would still need to be signed off on. IMHO
  • I have no idea how the CR4 mods would or would care to deal with collaboration in any serious endeavor on here. My guess is they would invite the interested parties to get together in their own room.
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12/07/2017 11:33 AM

We do have an email system, you can click on anybody's name and send them a message....

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12/07/2017 11:53 AM

I inferred that in my post by mentioning PM's, but that is as clear as mud after a spring rain.

Ah, thank you!

I trust there are probably no less than 12 CAD operators/artists that routinely use this forum for enjoyment, and for sorting out the questions of the day.

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12/07/2017 12:19 PM

PM?

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Yes, I know what you mean,... I'm just being difficult today...

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12/07/2017 12:26 PM

Hello difficult, how may I help you? Doink!

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12/07/2017 12:26 PM

Before Tornado:

You said, "I inferred that in my post"

You actually implied that in your post.

It is you who implies and those who read it who will infer.

Where did that "Language" thread go when I need it?

Being born In Texas, this won't be held against you.

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12/07/2017 1:18 PM

The way I smell of late, I would not expect much of anyone to hold much anywhere near me, much less against me, LOL!

You are 100% correct, that was a really unfortunate word selection on my part, sorry about that, now I have a chance to improve.

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12/08/2017 8:58 AM

Is there a book called "You Might Be A Lawyer If?"

...or is it just a Redneck book?

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12/08/2017 1:09 PM

What about you get a contract with a freelancer? I tried to register in Upwork with a similar position but there were "too many people with similar skills" so they would not let me in. Which means there are plenty of people doing this as freelancers online.

For instance, my company has a contract with a freelancer for all the PCB design. I would not say your task differs a lot from this situation.

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12/10/2017 10:15 PM

Thanks to all for the replies and PM's ..I'd keep ya' posted if it weren't against the rules.

It's difficult to go on about engineering when the business end has to be left out, but all the engineering is about business!?

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