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People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect

02/17/2020 1:36 PM

Isn't this dangerous from a legal point of view?

When Tesla the company owns the software they own the liability if it goes wrong and kills someone which it has in the past.

But if hackers are hacking the software and the car then inadvertently kills someone then won't the hackers be liable instead of Tesla?

People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect

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Re: People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect

03/10/2020 3:12 AM

The chassis I saw is from a Model S. The workmanship is not to 2018 manufacturing/engineering levels (when I saw the car). The Model 3, I can't say, because I haven't see the chassis.

Regarding electronics, the Tesla is far superior to anything I've seen. It's very well engineered and the build quality is excellent.

So in 2018, the Tesla Model S was 2 generations behind Audi in mechanical engineering and build quality. Today's Model 3 may quite well be better. I know they changed the motor and the philosophy of eV propulsion. I'm not sure about the suspension and the casting of the parts.

Regarding the Taycan; Porsche built an amazing car. Yes, they charge a lot for it, but it's a Porsche and people pay for the quality, performance, safety and of course that crest. I've owned some Porsche's over the years and I do like the car a lot. I tell people that there isn't another company that can get power to the ground so efficiently and that builds such a great suspension that it makes you a better driver.

Last year, I had a Porsche Cayman 987 that I took through Hwy 2 (Angeles Crest Hwy) in the rain/sleet/snow. It wasn't my car, so I drove gingerly at first. When I had an opening, I hit a corner a little faster - no problem! Then a little faster on the next! Pretty soon, I was ripping through corners, stomping on the brakes, flooring the gas - driving like a lunatic. All of this in the evening (dark skies with no street lights). The Cayman is so well balanced, light and basically a square. All these together make it rotate so well! Add to this a low center of gravity a nice flat 6 and great visibility - now you have a cornering monster. Would I have done this in a 997? Probably not, because hanging that motor out makes the rear end like a pendulum and pushing the gas through a fast corner and worrying about what will happen if I lift throttle - that doesn't inspire confidence.

Regarding Jaguar! I love Jags for what they are. Yes, I've owned a couple of them and I really like the car. I call it the nicest place to sit - the front seat is great, but the back seat in my Vanden Plas was the most comfortable. And the stereo system was superb! It doesn't handle like a BMW. Ergononics stink - why did they put that button, switch, lever, etc THERE!!! Getting in and out isn't easy like a luxury car should be. Both of my XJ's were remarkably reliable - better than my midsize BMW (V8), Merc (straight 6) and Audi cars! The motor is nice, but not BMW/Merc nice.

The F Type does put out a lot of power and it sure makes all the right noises, but I don't own one. The I Pace is a lot of money. A LOT. Reliable? I don't know, but I haven't heard any complaints.

Why do Jaguar owners buy a Jaguar? I think there's a few reasons.

1. They're very, very luxurious.

2. They're not run of the mill - I see lots and lots of S Class Mercs and 7 Series BMW's, but not a lot of XJ's.

3. They feel very special.

4. They're beautiful!

I once read that the median income for a Jaguar XJ owner is over $200K per year - I believe that when I started in the business in 2002 - Quite a bit more than an S-Class or 7 Series owner.

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