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Millwright Exam

11/22/2007 2:25 PM

I am looking for anyone who has passed the millwright exam (red seal)

who that mabye remembers some questions that were on it

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Re: Millwright Exam

11/22/2007 4:12 PM

What is your name?

What is your quest?

What is the air speed velocity of an African swallow?

(Sorry, couldn't resist)

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11/23/2007 1:06 AM
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11/23/2007 2:03 AM

Haw! Sympathies to you, mutantone!

In Canada, the Coast Guard supervises all Marine Engineering Officer and Navigation Officer examinations, the number for which is issued automatically and at random from Ottawa each day.

I can remember the examiner looking quizzically at my exam in steam engineering and then apologizing as he handed me a question sheet entirely on triple bangers!!

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11/23/2007 2:47 AM

But you passed it anyway?

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11/25/2007 1:30 AM

Hi, mutantone!

Marine engineering and naval architecture combined courses, agreed to internationally by a multi-seafaring-nation treaty (because of the profession's portability), include both a thorough grounding in mechanical and structural (and not a little electrical) engineering as well as an opportunity to play with the physical manifestations of the systems whose mathematical constructs we study.

Fortunately, a component of the second year steam engineering courses was a study of the historical systems and the --fairly simple-- technology utilized by triple bangers (3-cylinder expansion steam engines), complete with metallurgy, construction, quizzes and calculations. Plus we had a large operational triple banger salvaged off a scrapped ship in the lab that we constantly took apart, rebuilt and ran just for fun, as well as several small peripheral steam engines (and a few diesel engines, but unfortunately we had no turbines in the lab, so the studies in that respect, although thorough, were theoretical; and the white-gloves work for those of us who were interested in steam certification was done in our naval architecture tours of four months each during two consecutive years of study in yards and on board steam vessels). And there was an actual operating triple banger vessel owned by a silo operator in the same port as my alma mater's main base that I had visited out of curiosity.

All I had to do was recall most of the early coursework. As I recall, a pass was 80%, and I think I scored 81% or something really skin-of-the-teeth on it.

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11/25/2007 4:21 AM

When I took the test it was after six years in the field working as everything from laborer to pipe fitter so I had a fair grounding in a lot of areas the test was not that hard mostly what I had been doing for the past four years so I took the test just to get a hire pay scale very little classroom time mostly field work hands on so to say, then I went into Juvenile corrections, far more rewarding, after five power plants, Kimberly Clark tissue mill in Tulsa, Oklahoma and the rebuild of the Horst Ceylonese plant in Pampa Texas after it blew up, great pay but damn unsteady work. Where as the corrections field I saw results helping kids go straight instead of making a shaft turn. Alot harder than setting a machine in place by hand lol

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11/25/2007 9:38 AM

Hi, mutantone!

My cousin was in corrections for a while (now owns a health food store), so I know the good-heartedness of people in a job as tough as yours must be from time to time.

What do you do to help out the incarcerated lads in terms of enabling them to go straight?

I am certified as a teacher as well, and have taught all grade levels from Jr. Kindergarten through (at the time I was teaching) grade thirteen, and I have some ideas on the topic that are intended to keep our kids out of trouble before they get into it, which I will try to incorporate into our educational system after I become mayor.

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11/25/2007 11:47 AM

by being fair firm and consistent for the most part. Then I spent a lot of time on line after work locating suitable jobs in their home areas, schools programs for those that were of that ilk but mostly finding apprenticeship programs and On the job training with various companies for them when the got out even recruiters for the military, mostly coastguard and army anything that would fit their success plans including drug classes therapy sessions and family counseling for the ones that were married. Just simple items that they needed to make it when they got out for the most part the program really works it has one of the highest success rates in the nation a very low recidivism rate over all. Sadly some were to far gone to make use of the system and ended up in adult prisons. But the ones that made it made it all worth while.

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12/21/2007 5:49 PM

i have something also i am going to appear in jan . if you have something pl write me

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12/22/2007 4:36 AM

Hi, Guest!

Where are you going to appear, and why? And what is it you need to have sent to you in writing?

All the best,

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01/26/2008 4:19 PM

so how did you do i am going soon and was wondering if there was anything that you think you would be able to help me with my email is ______ if you can

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01/27/2008 6:06 AM

Read through the exam first. Put a checkmark beside each question you think you can answer easily. Then go back and do those questions first.

Then choose each question that looks like you can score on it and do all or as much of each of them as you can with accuracy, so you will assure yourself of part-marks.

Then try to complete whatever you need to to score the best grade you can.

Stay cool, relax, and be methodical.

Good luck!

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10/08/2009 3:18 PM

Thanks Mark for the advice. That is a good way to insure you get the most questions answered.

I will be writing the final exam in about a month or two. I have been looking at trades exam bank dot com. I am unsure about the set up. It divides their questions into four periods then the Red Seal Exam. Am I correct in thinking that the same questions are in the Red Seal Exam as in the individual period exams? The Red Seal is just allowing you to purchase a smaller quantity of questions?

Do you think it would be beneficial to get sample questions from all periods or just the Red Seal Exam?

From: Soon to be a Millwright!!!!

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10/08/2009 5:31 PM

Hi, Guest!

I can only answer your question from the point of view of a Marine Engineer, so I hope my response is useful to you.

I had a look at their setup; and it appears that each section is divided into studies done before the red seal exam is undertaken. The Test sections present in-depth tests in several different categories of Millwright expertise.

The red seal seems to offer questions offered in past final qualification exams. And it appears that some of those questions might show up again from time to time.

If you have already completed all the schoolwork studies, apprenticeship placements, etc., necessary for provincial/federal registration, you may not need the preliminary-stage tests to practice for the red seal questions.

Again, my experience is of the Marine Engineering kind. If your finals are anything like the Marine Engineering federal qualifications, they might very well be hum-dingers that combine more than one area of expertise, such as electricity and physics. You'll find out if that applies to the Millwright exams when you view whichever read seals they give you to practice on.

Fortunately, back in skul most of the top-qualifying finals were several questions given while still in the academic setting where the set of relevant knowledge was still fresh in one's mind, just like the normal examinations for which the above examination-taking advice was given.

But there were other final examinations that could only be attempted after a period of service in the profession, with at least some time at sea. Those were the ones we had to hole up in a library with stacks of books and old lecture notes to bone up for, because by the time we were allowed to take them, we had been separated from skul for a long time.

In Marine Engineering, these final top-qualifiying examinations consisted of just one question for each area of study, given in one day and expecting you to return for another by booking ahead, because it would take an entire afternoon to answer the (often single) exam question and two or three weeks of review to prepare for it; and nobody, not even the examiner, knew what they would consist of until the morning of the day the examinee was due to take them. They were generated randomly in Ottawa from a bank of hundreds or thousands of exam questions at the master's level, and faxed to the examination site.

For example, in an electrical engineering exam, the examinee could be presented with a set of electrical circumstances --say an engine driving a generator-- and be required to show the strength of some physical outcome that can be accomplished by modifying and then applying the available power to some form of motor or other that manages a task empoying springs and pulleys.

I use that example because I recall one in electrical engineering that employed a choice of three-phase power deduced from the capability of a given diesel driver and recified. The answer required a calucation of how to adjust the current to maintain the springs of a certain gold-leaf electroscope in a given extension position. OUCH!!! (Where do these guys think this stuff up????? It was a three-to four-hour slug through almost every formula in the book even before getting to the spring-physics part!)

I did what was called "a combined ticket", which meant that I had to try exams in both steam engineering and diesel engineering. When the examination questions arrived on the day of my steam engineering final taken at a local coast guard office and administered by the commanding officer there, the examiner looked at it before he handed it over. Then he apologized to me before giving it to me, shrugging his shoulders and telling me that he had no control over what would be generated from Ottawa that day. The entire exam was based upon outdated steam technology from the triple-expansion days of steam power generation where even the peripheral engines in a ship's engine room were single-piston steam engines! Nothing on that exam had not been out of date for forty years. I passed, but just by the skin of my teeth with only 81% (passing grade 80%), and thanked my lucky stars that I hadn't skipped over any of my studies, even the history and physics of the evolution of steam-powered ships while preparing for the exam. My legs were weak as I left the place.

Back to your Millwright examinations...

Expect the red seal stuff to take a longer time to work through on a per-question basis. My guess is that those practice questions will be invaluable for toughening you up in preparation for your qualifying exams; so after you check out the tests in the one or two areas where you might not feel as confident as you would like to be, definitely go for the red seals. This combination of those two sets might serve you best.

The bottom line answer to your question would appear to be to use the preliminary series of tests to reassure yourself, if you need to, that you have all the topics handled comfortably. Use the red seals to get ready for the kind of thing they'll throw at you in the Federal or Provincial exams.

And may you have all the luck that gets you some easy-peasy stuff on your qualifiers!

BTW, I don't understand how the credit system works for this web site. Perhaps you would be kind enough to explain it to me. Do you purchase credits to use as you try the various tests offered by them, or is the site free to use?

Mark

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Re: Millwright Exam

11/03/2009 6:07 PM

Good luck with your exam. I have failed it twice now and i took a preparitory cours through a college. The Exam consists of questions that are not in the manual, So there is no way to prepare for it.

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04/27/2009 8:43 PM

If i were to take marine engineering technology. Do you think I would pass the millwright test? and which job has more career opportunities

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04/28/2009 9:31 PM

Hello, Guest!

If you graduate from a school for Marine Engineering Technology, your graduation diploma will automatically qualify you for the Millwright designation in some countries. To obtain that Millwright designation, all that will be required is your requesting it from the appropriate governing bodies, and you may have to undergo a brief token term of apprenticeship to fulfil the requirements of your local union. Your Marine Engineering college can probably guide you as to where to apply for it and whether it will be available to you.

Your request used the term "Technologist". In most countries, the international curricula for Marine Engineer is the same as the curricula for Marine Engineering Technologist. The examinations set for both designations are identical.

The difference will be that instead of a degree in Marine Engineering, you will get a diploma/certification in Marine Engineering Technology with the same course material from an institution not licenced to grant degrees. You should choose the country you wish to study in for the quality of the instruction and the degree or diploma you want to hold at the end.

Britain, The United States, Canada and India offer pretty good degree programs, I believe. In Canada as in other countries the Technologist program is the same as the degree program, only the institutions offering it are not degree-granting institutions. There are three non-degree programs and one degree program in Canada.

Regardless of where you obtain your Technologist certification, the following information applies. Because, with the exception of a course in English literature and writing (required now by all engineering courses in Canada and most likely elsewhere in the world as well) the course material in the Technologist program does not address the Humanities, the degree program recognizes the Technologist certification as equivalent to the degree with one exception: a basic university undergraduate education in the Humanities.

In Canada, if you possess the non-degree Technologist certification plus an undergraduate degree or its equivalent from any university, you can pursue the Masters Degree and Doctoral designation In Marine Engineering at TUNS.

In Most countries with a coast line, if you possess the non-degree certification and achieve a Marine Engineering first-class designation, you qualify for entry into a Masters Degree program in either Marine Engineering or Mechanical Engineering at any technical university setting worldwide. Your time at sea earning the first class designation is counted on your CV as equivalent to lessons in the Humanities.

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07/27/2009 12:10 AM

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11/12/2009 12:49 AM

In 1979 the company I worked for offered16 (on the job training) millwright positions to those who could pass a mechanical aptitude test. Every one taking the test was failing so the companys' senior mechanical engineer wrote it and got 94% declaring it just fine. Me being a junior part time labourer at the time thought I didn't have a chance in hell to pass cause all I ever did was take things apart and not be able to reasemble them. Well I got 98% suprising every one, myself included. Then the hard work started, three years of working all day and then night school 5 days a week. After that we were boarded out of town for 5 weeks a year for two years (2,400 hrs) at a Trades Collage. A condition of the training was that we had to get an interprovincal ticket or we were out of a job period.. My point being that to be a sucessful Millwright takes a lot of hard work. Any one can study (or cheat) to pass a millwright exam, but the ability to see how something works (put together) without ever having seen that machine before is a God given ability, what schooling does is teach the tried and proven practices of the trade, and expose you to new technology. Of course a bonus from the training is that you can speak a language that a lay person can't understand.

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11/12/2009 1:08 AM

Amen. And the other bonus is working in a field that continually challenges your intelligence and rewards you with wins and the gratitude of your customers as well as good pay.

You chose the right career, and your entry shows it.

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12/30/2009 1:59 PM

I have not passed it yet but I do have a lot of questions if you would like them. Send me an Email to the attached address

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12/31/2009 1:01 AM

Hello, Guest!

Post your questions here. Just don't post any questions that you should find the answers to yourself.

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02/25/2011 9:03 AM

Elliott Waves offer an online learning for Millwright and online test questions practices pl visit the link http://www.elliottwaves.biz/engg/millwright.htm It seems enough to pass if you have 5 year millwright working experience already. As it is also a requirement for appearing the exam. bye

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