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Center of Tree Trunk Burned Out: Is This Common?

05/13/2021 7:11 AM

Is this common; how does it happen?

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Re: Centre of tree trunk burned out: is this common?

05/13/2021 7:23 AM

Rare but happens when the conditions are right.

normally by lighten strikes, and by the location of the tree, that appears to be the case.

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05/13/2021 7:28 AM

Clearly I should have searched first!

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/10/13/hollow-tree-fire-california-orig-trnd-lab.cnn

I still don't understand the mechanism. I'm guessing that because the tree was still alive when it was struck by lightning the sap layer protects the outer bark.

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05/13/2021 7:40 AM

Not necessarily, but alive and growing, could have had a disease also, or even dead in the core from earlier lightenstrikes. When we were logging (on the farm). We would cut what looked like a healthy tree, only to find the inside was hollow and deteriorated with dry, combustible material, along with nests from animals that make a home out of it.

that can easily be lite up.

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05/13/2021 8:44 AM

The wet inner is the conductor which carries the charge to ground.

The bark splits from the sudden expansion of the inner wet wood.

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05/14/2021 5:56 PM

Sounds like a good explanation. Expanding sapwood creates a longitudinal break for air to fan an inner fire, and at same time is preventing outer bark from burning. All examples I've see have been older trees, so I guess younger ones get blown to bits as they are mostly sapwood.

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05/13/2021 9:40 AM

I've often wondered if this is how people originally discovered the advantages of a chimney.

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05/13/2021 10:00 AM

With the choices available, I think they learned this the hard way...

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05/13/2021 10:13 AM

The Baobab seems to somehow do this as part of it's natural cycle.

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05/13/2021 11:28 AM

The wood at the centre of a tree trunk is dead and drier than the living part, which is round the periphery immediately underneath the bark. Were lightning to strike a tree, any fire caused will propagate better in the centre of the trunk, and not the outer, because of the differing moisture levels.

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05/14/2021 4:31 AM

Most likely kids!

I see that it is near a residential area, looks like an old, dead, dry trunk.

It was just too tempting!

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05/14/2021 6:01 AM

Thanks everyone.

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05/14/2021 8:07 AM

If dead trees can burn out. How are we protecting our wood houses?

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05/14/2021 8:44 AM

there are many ways,... one would be properly grounded lightening rods.

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05/17/2021 6:57 AM

Undefined: <...we...>.

How is the forum supposed to know whom to ask (rhetorical question - NNTR)?

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05/14/2021 10:07 AM

Nature does leave us some intriguing mysteries. I think they mentioned a Redwood out in Cali was still burining from last years fire, I wonder if this could be similar. I know farmers would try to "burn them down" sometimes.

At our house in Florida we had a live oak that had completely died inside but had grown an exoskeleton around the original trunk. It was hollow up the center and big enough kids could hide inside it.

It sat on a corner and the city would come every year and assess if it needed to be taken down. When we sold the house it was still standing.

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05/17/2021 4:57 AM

Doesn't even need to be a lightning strike but a grass fire. The center of old trees dies as the tree grows and there is a dead core of fibrous lignin which can act as kindling which only needs an outside entrance for a fire to get hold in.

Termites also eat the wood creating a chimney and once the fire gets into the tree the heat is drawn up and dries the tree from the inside. A lot of the trees in Australia contain oils and once the fire gets going in the dry center the tree burns from the inside out like a blast furnace

Even green looking trees will burn ferociously baking the clay from the termites into vitrified material. This happens often in bushfires.

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05/17/2021 1:23 PM

I would venture to guess that the lightening strike took out a vertical stripe of bark. Leaving the innards of the tree exposed to the parasites of nature. The parasites consume the flesh of the tree....leaving the bark.

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