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What's Causing all These Mass Shootings

06/02/2022 10:32 PM

We have been seeing more and more of these mass shootings which began about 10 years ago...Here is a medical analysis looking at what researchers have found as what the possible causes and some eye opening facts about gun violence around the world..

Pretty much common sense, but what should be done to correct the situation, that is the question...

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06/03/2022 6:59 AM

You forgot to insert the link.

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06/03/2022 9:14 AM

One thing I would postulate, and I think it is also a contributor to the rising rate of teen suicides in recent years, is the increasing level of "hopelessness" being expressed in our society. Whether it is climate change ("The world is coming to an end in 2030 if we don't do something!"), racial issues ("White supremacy and bias are systemically inherent, and must be radically repudiated and countered."), economic woes (inflation, unemployment, job insecurity, etc.), foreign threats (Ukraine/Russia, Taiwan/China, etc.), or any of a number of other things, young people today are bombarded with messages that say their future is going to be worse than it is today and there is little they can do about it. They get depressed, angry, paranoid, whatever, and without mature, grounded, reasoned adult guidance they respond by doing what they see portrayed in the "clickbait" media - anger, protest, violence, and mayhem. Until we offer them a means and a reason to find hope, things will not get better.

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06/03/2022 11:17 AM

What changed…

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06/13/2022 4:16 AM

I agree with you whole heartedly. My only comment as a non-American is why can't you reduce the severity of these acts by banning "multi round" assault type weapons?

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06/13/2022 4:39 AM

One needs to look at why the second amendment was written.

1.) It has to do with history of a bloated government and how to keep it in check.

2.) *hint… it has absolutely nothing to do with hunting,

the problem I see in this country now is mental illness that should be address.

just look at the meltdown after November 8, 2016, (presidential election), where the weak minded was lead to believe that was the day their opposition was to become extinct and it didn’t happen.

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06/03/2022 8:34 AM

If I have to guess,… and I’m a good guesser…

it’s the desensitizing of the populous by a number of components… politics, media, high profile figures, etc…

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06/03/2022 9:17 AM

IMHO:

I agree with that guess.Movies are filled with killings without showing the consequences of death;The grief of the families and friends of the victims.

Gangs are formed to give the kids a sense of family,and protection from other gangs and bullies.

They have no moral compass to guide them,no fatherly figures to look up to or imitate.

The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.The father that abandons his kids will destroy it.

And of course,the media shares a lot of the blame by glorifying the mass murderers by giving much air time to the events.Some want to be famous,or infamous,and will do anything to go down in history,good or bad.Like Putin,for instance,on a large stage,but the world is full of wanna-be-famous-nobodies.

You can outlaw the guns,but that will not stop the killings.

Criminals will always have guns,same as drugs.

Drugs are illegal,so how is that working out?

The problem is the shooter,not the gun.

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06/03/2022 11:15 AM

But I used fewer words…

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06/05/2022 2:45 PM

That about sums it up - GA

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'Nuff said...

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06/27/2022 6:46 PM

In Australia we banned assault rifles and made buying single shot guns harder. It is very difficult to get a handgun even when you have a firearms license. A firearms license is required to buy any sort of gun, or even ammunition. To get a firearms license you must have a letter from a landholder who has over 20 hectares ( 50 acres ) and requires you to shoot vermin. Then, to buy a gun, you must take the proposed purchase to your local police station for them to inspect it. If it is acceptable you then go back to the shop and complete the purchase, buy ammo etc. Certainly kills impulse buying!

Death by shooting is way less than in the U.S.

In the U.S. kids as young as 4 are killing their mums, accidentally. Normal, sane, mentally stable people are killing when they have a "meltdown" and the handgun is "just there." It is tempting to say it is a mental health issue but i know it isn't. ANYBODY can be pushed to the point where a gun that is to hand can be used.

Self defense is oft cited as a reason to kill. If the other person has a gun then you NEED to shoot them, of course.

"Criminals will always have guns." Yes, we see that here. They usually shoot other criminals and they are soon caught. Apart from adding to the stats no great loss.

The right to bear arms was included when "arms" were muzzle loaders. Nobody then had the right to an arsenal. One assault rifle is equal to an arsenal of muzzle loaders.

The rest of the western world laughs at the attitudes of mainstream Americans and can clearly see that the problem is due to those attitudes:- guns don't kill, people kill; bad mental health is the cause; if everyone had a gun then shooters would be killed sooner;

All of these truisms seem logical but so does "if nobody had a gun there would be no killings"

The trick is to limit the killings. Banning handguns and automatic weapons WILL limit killings. But how do you do that? I would say you can't. So "good luck guys."

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06/27/2022 8:43 PM

I will never argue with you.

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06/28/2022 4:40 PM

The right to bear arms was included when "arms" were muzzle loaders

What if . . . . We would redefine "arms" as single-shot guns, or maybe up to 10 shots, and military guns, high capacity guns & magazines, etc as something else--even if we have to invent a word?

Then the constitution's "right to bear arms" could still be used, but ownership of the more potent stuff would be limited.

Has anyone asked the NRA, or other gun groups, for help in writing legislation?

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06/28/2022 7:42 PM

No, the right to bear arms was to protect the citizens from Tyranny.

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06/29/2022 4:26 PM

I agree, and by extension personal protection...The firearms available to the military should also be available to the general population, under arming the people defeats the purpose of having weapons in the first place...Tyrannical dictators have risen to power because the citizens were disarmed...One person can't take over a country without a loyal military to enforce his will....The military is run from the top down, the guy at the top gives the orders, the rest just follow along...If the military is here to protect us, then they shouldn't object to us being armed as they are, for backup...The military is made up of citizens, we are all on the same team...If that is not true , then there is a problem....an armed nation is a free nation...

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06/29/2022 7:31 PM

To stand up against a government like this…

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06/03/2022 11:26 PM

In my perspective, the only reason and also the common denominator for why these things to be happening is basically the results of very "poor" parenting!

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06/04/2022 1:07 AM

Sure try it again...

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It seems for a small portion of the population, social media is toxic...but then so is freedom....

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06/04/2022 4:59 PM

Maybe a mental health screening test should be required before gun ownership is allowed...

https://www.washington.edu/counseling/resources/online-mental-health-screening/

Then perhaps an emotional maturity test....

https://www.mindful.org/how-to-test-your-emotional-maturity/

Local doctors could examine applicants and evaluate these test results giving the applicant a score, and this must be repeated every 10 years ...If the applicant fails to achieve a passing score, then he or she must wait 1 year before reapplying and testing....any person failing the test miserably and deemed unstable and a danger to themselves or others, should be referred by law to a mental health professional for treatment and possible commitment... and the results forwarded to law enforcement in some cases ...

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06/06/2022 7:26 AM

So, why does it happen in some countries, and not in others?

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06/06/2022 10:00 AM

We are going through a transition. And as this administration said, ‘don’t let a crisis go to waste’ they’ve been trying to transform our country for generations. This is the best opportunity they have.

don’t expect it to end soon, or with out damage.

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..."Exactly how mass shootings in the U.S. compare to those in other countries is a highly disputed subject. In a widely publicized study originally released in 2015, the pro-gun nonprofit Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) compared the annual number of mass shooting deaths per million people in the U.S. to that of Canada and several European countries from 2009 to 2015. The result? Norway led the world with 1.88 deaths per million, followed by Serbia, France, and Macedonia. Where did the U.S. rank? 11th place."...

"Although events in the U.S. tend to get the lion's share of media exposure, mass shootings are clearly a worldwide issue."

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..."How much time do Norwegians spend on social media? Representatives of Generation Z spent nearly four hours on social media daily in Norway, as of 2019. Survey respondents from the older generations were spending less time on social media, and the Matures (aged 72 years or older) were spending just over an hour on average." May 5, 2022

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1033973/time-spent-on-social-media-in-norway-by-generation/

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..."OWO, Nigeria, June 6 (Reuters) - Survivors of an attack by unknown assailants on a Catholic church in Nigeria lay weeping and writhing in pain at a local hospital on Monday after suffering what a doctor described as lacerations, bullet wounds and blast injuries.

At least 50 people including children were killed, according to media reports, during the attack on St Francis Catholic Church in the town of Owo, which took place during Sunday mass as worshippers were celebrating the Christian holiday of Pentecost. "...

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06/08/2022 5:30 AM

What else is there to do at those latitudes?

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Statistics under scrutiny: Why some experts disagree with the CRPC report on mass shooters Many statisticians believe the reason the CRPC study's results seem so counterintuitive is that they are incorrect. One of the more detailed analyses appeared on the fact-checking website snopes.com and concluded that the CRPC report used "inappropriate statistical methods" which led to misleading results.

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Other countries are embarrassed by the violence in their country, the US acts like any violence must make headlines in every paper, sensationalism to sell papers, now page views on the internet and other video media, click bait sensationalism sells, tabloid journalism is alive and well....Unfortunately this warps the publics' view of the world, and gives rise to agenda based politics that is devoid of any common sense.....

So let's get the facts here....

..."There is a lack of consensus on how to define a mass shooting. Most terms define a minimum of three or four victims of gun violence (not including the shooter) in a short period of time, although an Australian study from 2006 prescribed a minimum of five; and added a requirement that the victims actually died as opposed to being shot and injured but not necessarily killed.[1]

In the United States, the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012 defines mass killings as three or more killings in a single incident,[2] however the Act does not define mass shootings. Media outlets such as CNN and some crime violence research groups such as the Gun Violence Archive define mass shootings as involving "four or more shot (injured or killed) in a single incident, at the same general time and location, not including the shooter".[3] Sometimes shootings involving three or more victims occur in non-public situations such as when one member of a family shoots all the other members in the family home. These killings are known as familicides and are not included in mass shooting statistics.

The motive for mass shootings (which occur in public situations) is a defining feature in that they are usually committed by deeply disgruntled individuals seeking revenge or payback for failures in school, career, romance and life in general.[4] If multiple people are shot in a robbery or killed in a terrorist attack, these deaths are also not included under the definition of mass shootings.[5]"....

..."The overwhelming majority of mass shooters in the U.S. are male, with some sources showing males account for 98% of mass shooters.[53][54][55] According to Sky News, male perpetrators committed 110 out of 114 school shootings (96%) in the period 1982-2019,[56] compared to homicides in general in the United States, where 85.3% of homicides were committed by males.[57]

A study by Statista showed that 65 out of 116 (56%) U.S. mass shootings in a period from 1982 to 2019 involved "white" shooters,[58] roughly in line with the roughly 60% of the U.S. population regarded as "white" in 2018.[59] According to a database compiled by Mother Jones magazine, the race of the shooters is approximately proportionate to the overall U.S. population, although Asians are overrepresented and Latinos underrepresented.[55]"...

..." John Roman of the Urban Institute argues that, while better access to mental health care, restricting high powered weapons, and creating a defensive infrastructure to combat terrorism are constructive, they do not address the greater issue, which is "we have a lot of really angry young men in our country and in the world."[68] "....

..."Others contend that mass shootings should not be the main focus in the gun law reform debate because these shootings account for less than one percent of the U.S. homicide rate and believe that these shootings are hard to stop. They often argue that civilians with concealed guns will be able to stop shootings.[100]

According to British criminologist Peter Squires, who has studied gun violence in different countries, mass shootings may be more due to the "individualistic culture" in the U.S. than its firearm laws.[101] "...

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06/14/2022 5:22 AM

The people trying to get more gun control should be concentrating on the overall deaths by firearm figures rather than the more headline grabbing "mass shootings".

This is from Wikipedia

I imagine that other years would be similar to 2010.

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..."More Americans died of gun-related injuries in 2020 than in any other year on record, according to recently published statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). That included a record number of gun murders, as well as a near-record number of gun suicides. Despite the increase in such fatalities, the rate of gun deaths – a statistic that accounts for the nation’s growing population – remains below the levels of earlier years.

Here’s a closer look at gun deaths in the United States, based on a Pew Research Center analysis of data from the CDC, the FBI and other sources. You can also read key public opinion findings about U.S. gun violence and gun policy in our recent roundup."...

..."Though they tend to get less public attention than gun-related murders, suicides have long accounted for the majority of U.S. gun deaths. In 2020, 54% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides (24,292), while 43% were murders (19,384), according to the CDC. The remaining gun deaths that year were unintentional (535), involved law enforcement (611) or had undetermined circumstances (400)."...

...."While 2020 saw the highest total number of gun deaths in the U.S., this statistic does not take into account the nation’s growing population. On a per capita basis, there were 13.6 gun deaths per 100,000 people in 2020 – the highest rate since the mid-1990s, but still well below the peak of 16.3 gun deaths per 100,000 people in 1974.

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06/14/2022 3:31 PM

I notice the last spike in gun murders we had was between 1985 and 1991....this was the cold war...Is it possible the KGB is behind this in some way? A resurrected shape-shifting evil influence?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War_(1985%E2%80%931991)

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06/15/2022 2:26 PM

.Is it possible the KGB is behind this in some way?

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Russia has been and is manipulating public opinion and probably more of how we think and react. Actually, I would expect it! Their expectation is probably to have results in many years or even decades.

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...or maybe it's just naturally occurring....?

..."Homicidal ideation is a common medical term for thoughts about homicide. There is a range of homicidal thoughts which spans from vague ideas of revenge to detailed and fully formulated plans without the act itself.[1] Most people who have homicidal ideation do not commit homicide. 50–91% of people surveyed on university grounds in various places in the United States admit to having had a homicidal fantasy.[2] Homicidal ideation is common, accounting for 10–17% of patient presentations to psychiatric facilities in the United States.[1]

Homicidal ideation is not a disease itself, but may result from other illnesses such as delirium and psychosis. Psychosis, which accounts for 89% of admissions with homicidal ideation in one US study,[3] includes substance-induced psychosis (e.g. amphetamine psychosis) and the psychoses related to schizophreniform disorder and schizophrenia. Delirium is often drug induced or secondary to general medical illness(es)."...

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06/17/2022 9:23 PM

You mean the humans on earth are like a jar of fruit flys?

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06/18/2022 1:31 AM

No, I mean there is a certain percentage of homicidal psychotics out there, and people should be prepared to defend themselves should they encounter one... by whatever means necessary...using whatever tools are available...

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06/21/2022 7:40 AM

Based on something I heard on the radio yesterday, if you break down that category of "murders," the majority of them are gang-related or similar shootings. Only a small part of the total was what we are hearing the most about in the news: Shootings by a "lone wolf" at a school, church, synagogue, store, etc. But that's what gets the most attention in the media and traction in governing & legislative bodies.

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06/14/2022 3:37 PM

Now break it down to demographics… and you may be surprised of what you see.

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06/14/2022 9:59 PM

What that most suicides are white men over 70 years of age that live in the middle of nowhere....that's no surprise...

https://preventfirearmsuicide.efsgv.org/about-firearm-suicide/statistics/

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07/05/2022 3:10 AM

The mass shooting rate in the USA is now averaging about one per week.

The broadcaster and travel writer Rick Steves claims that an American is safer on holiday/vacation in Europe than were that individual to stay at home. That claim correlates with the above chart.

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07/05/2022 7:17 AM

In the poorly ruined cities, normally ruined and ruled by liberals who, release criminals regularly, while cutting its police force, it’s worse, yet goes unreported.

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06/29/2022 4:30 PM

A little history that many people seem to have forgotten...a hundred years ago houses were built without locks on the doors...

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06/29/2022 9:25 PM

The usual trumpers are here expounding about how they have been wronged by democracy.

The 2nd Amendment was written when the ONLY firearms known to man were single shot black powder rifles and pistols. No AR-15s, no semiautomatic pistols and sure as hell there were NO full automatic weapons available.

Now, anyone with an internet and a credit card can buy the parts to convert AR-15s to FULL AUTOMATIC!

No one has mentioned the NRA and their contribution of millions to politicians to promote gun sales. They make money on many guns and accessories sold to billy bob six pack of the Oath Keepers!

Get the facts, or shut up!

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06/30/2022 12:40 AM

..."Now, anyone with an internet and a credit card can buy the parts to convert AR-15s to FULL AUTOMATIC!"...

Uh, ya got a link for that?

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07/01/2022 10:35 PM

Don't be cute! You can't find any websites selling the parts???

Pleeeeze get real.

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06/30/2022 4:17 AM

Along with your hate, you really have issues…

yes, not only do you totally missed the point of the why the 2A was written, but to address your rant… sure the 2nd amendment was written with the ONLY firearms at the time, known to man were single shot black powder and everyone had the same.

Because of your display of limited abilities, the bill of rights written by men unlike yourself, had the foresight to realize that it wasn’t going always going to be that way.

There is one thing I do know, and I believe we both can agree, and that is to address the actual problem and that is that these guns need to be kept out of the hands of hateful people that have issues.

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07/01/2022 10:40 PM

Have Solar Eagle google "Originalist" for you.

Oh, that's right, He's saying he can't do a search..

Again, Try not to distort the truth to suit yourself. You aren't smart enough to pull it off.

Never mind, here it is. PAY ATTENTION!!

What is an originalist on the Supreme Court? In the context of United States law, originalism is a concept regarding the interpretation of the Constitution that asserts that all statements in the constitution must be interpreted based on the original understanding "at the time it was adopted". The NRA loves a fool!

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07/02/2022 12:57 AM

Well mr. google.

You feel better putting others down… “to your level”.

You really have a lot of hate, where you showed your cognitive issues since the November 8, 2016 spanking you so deserved.

here’s why the people that wrote the constitution is smarter than you.

The Constitution is known as a “living” document because it can be amended. And in over 200 years there have only been 27 amendments. they had foresight, where you just have hate.

A brief over view… The Constitution is organized into three parts.

  • The first part, the Preamble, describes the purpose of the document and the Federal Government.
  • The second part are the seven articles, which define the country's governing structures.
  • And the third part are the twenty-seven ratified amendments.

and it’s interesting how the Bill of Rights came about… it was derived from a number of documents, including the Magna Carta.

yes, what I couldn’t remember from my high school civics class, I had to look some of these up, at least I admit it, unlike you, you like to google it, take others work, spout it out as if it’s your own. You and the guy that resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue have that in common.

So tell me, You have any original thoughts of your own?

You need a tissue while you stew about it?

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07/05/2022 2:30 PM

Oooo… I hurt someone’s feeling with facts to have been awarded OT… I thank you.

Please come back again for another fact spanking.

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07/02/2022 10:51 PM

You should do your research Mr. Googlemiester… gun sales increase not from advertising from the NRA, but from leftist politicians threatening to abolish the 2A.

do some research yourself, and then use it as though it’s your own thoughts to put down others to your level, you know, like you always do.

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07/04/2022 11:38 AM

And that is a week after a shooting in Oslo

Its what I mentioned earlier, the problem is problem is the people who have hateful and issues who believe a whole section of people that don’t agree with them are the problem…

the actual problem are hateful people with issues.

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07/04/2022 3:01 PM

Yes, it seems to me this is the modern liberal mindset, everybody else is to blame for my failures...You must believe what I believe, right or wrong, or you have no right to exist...If I made an effort to do something, I should be given credit for having accomplished it, even though I didn't, because I tried to do it...it's ideology colliding with reality...

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07/04/2022 11:33 PM

Well, the idea is to make everybody equal. As it turning it, it’s happening,… everyone we’ll soon be equally miserable. And we’ll be going out of our way, to disparage anyone that disagrees with their own view point.

We’ll become filled with hate, and soon after our screws will come loose and then our wheels will soon fall off.

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07/05/2022 12:29 AM

As time goes on, maybe we can learn more about what motivated this individual to commit such a heinous crime, so indiscriminate, if proven true. Perhaps there were warnings in his 'performances' or social media postings. The New York subway shooter left no doubt, if anyone cared to pay attention.

Too bad Illinois no longer has a death penalty. Someone of this depth of depravity and evil, should never be allowed to walk among us.

Were the people targeted because of the Independence Day celebration conjured up some warped hatred of this country, or was it a target of opportunity for a large group of people? We may never know. Given the anti-American rhetoric coming out of the media these days, I'm afraid it may have been the former but we will have to wait and see what results from the investigation.

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07/05/2022 3:13 AM

There is every prospect of his becoming "Bobby Crimo the last"...

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07/05/2022 10:01 PM

A sea of red flags...

They should have arrested his father as well....

..."Those guns were bought legally by Mr. Crimo in Illinois, officials said, meaning he had obtained a firearm owners’ card from the State Police. The agency issued a statement late Tuesday saying that Mr. Crimo’s father had sponsored his son’s application in late 2019, when Mr. Crimo was 19, after the reported incidents."...

Unbelievable!!

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07/05/2022 11:34 AM

The "Mark all comments as read" is not working. (The captcha verification destroyed my memory if the quote is wrong!!) I'm glad my TV has not been turned on for 4 years.

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07/05/2022 12:35 PM

I had the same issue,… but I recently bought a new iPad… I blamed the new iPad because it has other issues,

it seems to be working today. Otherwise I had to go to the discussion list and mark as read there.

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