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Mystery Photo: Large (6' X 20') Metal Cylinder With Holes

03/04/2008 1:21 PM

Hey, I stumbled upon this large cylinder and I'm wondering if anyone might know what it is and what its purpose is...?


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03/04/2008 2:19 PM

I think this is old mining equipment.

Did you find this in Colorado?

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03/04/2008 3:47 PM

Any idea specifically what it is used for, I imagined something to do with mining or manufacture.

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Re: Mystery Photo: Large (6' X 20') Metal Cylinder With Holes

03/04/2008 4:31 PM

Water strainer for intake of water supply. Mines could have used it for dewatering. could be use for municipal water supply to draw water from lake or river. Suction would been connected to small port on side.

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03/04/2008 4:40 PM

Looks a bit like a steam loco fire box... but not quite.

I recognise the stuff the holes are made of. I have holes made of exactly the same stuff .
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03/04/2008 5:53 PM

Yeah, it's obviously the remnants of a steam locomotive firebox.

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03/05/2008 12:21 AM

Yes, it's the body of a Brotan-boiler.

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03/05/2008 11:13 AM

I too think it is a steam boiler firebox and it is missing the boiler tubes that ran from one set of holes to the other and were "reamed" in place to seal them....

Its easy to check, if the holes are in the same position at both ends, thats what it is!!

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Re: Mystery Photo: Large (6' X 20') Metal Cylinder With Holes

03/04/2008 6:58 PM

Hello biggjoshie

It is a Steam Locomotive Firebox.

Now all you need, is the rest of the locomotive, clean all parts, reassemble and paint, obtain your Steam Engineers Certificate, a load of coal, a set of rails, and away you go.

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03/04/2008 10:28 PM

Quite sure it's one of Ron Poliels prototype pasta makers . The lumberjack model .

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03/04/2008 10:40 PM

So that's what I was served last night! <burp!!!>

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03/05/2008 1:00 AM

This is an old boiler with the tubes removed can I have it. It looks great. Email me direct and I will send some pictures of one with the tubes still inside. Where is this?

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03/05/2008 1:42 AM

It's a party tube for the drunken, local adolescents. Isn't that obvious.

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03/05/2008 4:02 AM

The angler with the worlds longest arms could fumigate his catch in it.

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03/05/2008 8:38 AM

a Mafia alterative payment booth, used like cement shoes only reusable...

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03/05/2008 9:06 AM

It appears to be a fire-tube boiler with the tubes removed. It would be oriented horizontally (as it lays now) with the tube-field at the bottom and the un-tubed area at the top for steam collection / water droplet disengagement. The elliptical holes are for clean-out ports for the sludge that remains in the water after it boils off. I'm not thinking that this is a locomotive boiler - none of the obvious external attachments that say locomotive are present and it would have been more work to partially scrap the thing rather than cut it all up. I think a stationary boiler is more likely.

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03/05/2008 11:40 AM

Andy has it right. It is the shell of an old brick set, fire-tube boiler with the boiler tubes removed.

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Re: Mystery Photo: Large (6' X 20') Metal Cylinder With Holes

03/05/2008 12:54 PM

Has anyone seen the 'Calendria' in a nuclear power station? To me it looks like one

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03/05/2008 2:40 PM

Right on Ferrari Guy.......

I've rebuilt many of these...used commonly in '30's///40's//50's vintage boilers......my experience was steam supply for heating wash water and closed room/live steam room sterilization of washed dairy equipment and glass bottles (before paper milk cartons) Seating those tubes into the head walls was a tedious laborious trick with a tapered three roll roller plug..driven tight by maul..rotated..hit again..rotate.. hit again..each tube until "experience" showed you had stretched the fire tube tight enough to seal again the internal steam pressure of the operating unit perssure....great design for the times...the "fire tube" permitted flame area to increase the fire transfer rate into the water by the sum of the circumference times the length, times the number of tubes.

Scotch Marine boiler were similar but had about a 20 degree verticle angle to the tubes with the lower end (hotest fire point) imersed in the charge water...permitting the upper end to super heat the steam for marine type turbine/piston drives.

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03/05/2008 3:17 PM

Good answer, I have rated it so as well.

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03/05/2008 3:31 PM

Concur - when I was a kid, the town I lived in had a small creamery with a boiler that was about the same size, and what you could see of it strongly resembled some of what you could see in the photos. I too gave you a 'GA'!

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03/05/2008 9:30 PM

Now hold on just a minute! I've looked at this thing again, and again, very carefully and have reconsidered my earlier opinion. I'm now convinced, that the thing is a large pet crematorium! The holes are there simply for ash removal.

If you look very carefully at the third photo, you'll plainly see an elk's antlers lying at the feet of the caretaker.

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03/06/2008 2:40 AM

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03/06/2008 8:26 AM

It's an old boiler, laying at 45deg or so to the horizontal. The heat-exchange tubes are missing, so the camera can see inside it.

Note the heavy butt-seams to the cylindrical plates all held together with rivets. These are normally located in the vapour space only, as there have been corrosion and explosion problems on early locomotive boilers that dictated this practice for avoiding them. So water/steam is the most likely 'process fluid'.

The long rods are to attach the upper surface of the tubeplates to the upper surface of the drum, confirming that the drum contained 2 phases under pressure; there would be no need to heat the vapour space as more effect can be had by heating the liquid, so the tube plates need some support in the upper half that is otherwise provided by the expanded tubes in the lower half of the drum. These rods are called "stays" in the UK.

Unusually, the tubes are on a square matrix rather than a triangular one. The triangular is more effective in getting heating surface area into a tight space and for improving steaming rates within a boiler. So it's not a 'high-performance' device in comparison with some.

Despite the corrosion and being held together with rivets (which is heritage technology), it looks to be relatively young in boiler terms; one might expect more severe corrosion, particularly as it has been left in the open unprotected for several winters, it seems. There doesn't seem to be much casual activity with the gas-axe in the photos, so it is possible that it has been carefully de-tubed ready for re-tubing (heritage steam locomotives have to undergo this indignity every 10 years in the UK for insurance reasons), and then lain aside because of a change-of-plan. It isn't clear how it ended up at 45deg.

It looks like any firebox and smokebox are either missing or were never attached to it in the first place, so it is likely to have been used in a fixed installation rather than a locomotive one. Further, the diameter is large in UK terms for that which might be expected for a locomotive device, and at those sorts of diameters conical construction might be expected whereas this is cylindrical.

On the drum somewhere would be affixed an unique and indelible identifying number for insurance identification and documentation reasons. Now, if the original equipment manufacturer's or the operator's records were still available, then more could be learned about this equipment.

Even in this condition, it is worthy of collection, conservation and display by a registered museum that specialises in this type of artefact and from this class of industry, for education, information and entertainment purposes. After all, it does these things for CR4 readers in these photographs!

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03/06/2008 12:01 PM

Concur on conservation - there are several museums in the US that have such items on display, both stationary equipment (such as oilfield power) and mobile (rail and farm equipment), one being Minden Village in Minden, Nebraska. Where's the piece located, and is there any way to identify the owner?

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03/06/2008 1:33 PM

I thonk it's Stinky Pete's Winter Palace

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