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Windows Useless Address book WAB

05/26/2008 10:44 AM

Someone E-mails Mrs Cat their address book as a file attachment (exported as a .WAB file)
Her laptop says it doesn't recognise the file type...yet when I click it it displays it fine....so it obviously CAN display it.
(It did offer the option of changing a 'default viewer' which may or may not totally screw up everything else...and may or may not be reversible.)
About an hour later it refuses to display it at all. What a crock of shite...

It's bad enough having a rubbish system..but when it's not even consistent it beggars belief... and Uncle Bill can't even recognise file types created by his own programs?
I'm sure there is a work around...but should we need it? Can we be arsed?

She's on hotmail..and they have an address book converter program that pops up...does it work? Send your answers to:-
Of course it bloody doesn't
Not a snowball's chance
Hell

It would be quicker to type the damn things in by hand...

And don't get me started on the whole POP this SMPT that rubbish...It shouldn't be that hard for a PC to work out what server it's talking to.

This is the classic windows scenario...it's like the Emperors New Clothes. We are all told it's great but you scrape the surface and the veneer of user friendliness crumbles to reveal the rotting core of cobbled together, inconsistent half arsed rubbish.

Other than that ... it's just dandy.

By the way Admin's...maybe we should have a category for 'rant' as well as question and discussion ?
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05/26/2008 10:49 AM

Eerrrrrmmmmm are you having a bad day with your computer Del?

A little furry friend mentioned something about transferring files and settings - has it ever worked??

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05/26/2008 10:59 AM

Mrs Cat is happy enough now. We eventually clicked the ..

'Address book isn't your default V card viewer... do you want to make the default viewer' box.

The real answer is.
'No I don't want to change the default I just want you to use the sodding appropriate program to open the bloody file as it is obviously possible!'...

But there wasn't a box for that .

It is like saying ..
'You are having soup...do you want your default cutlery to be a soup spoon?'

No I just want a spoon for the soup...I'm quite happy with my knife and fork usually.

Still I'm at home and it's raining so sod all else to do...I can't get out in the garden or on the golf course..
I've got some Brownie points by getting Mrs Cat's 'office' wired up to the internet.

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05/27/2008 1:32 AM

Uh................ah thot ah heard a putty tat

Uh dunno if will help but try right clk the file then tell it what to open with in the case it has a small and easily confusion ethic.

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05/26/2008 12:22 PM

Good time of day Dell! Relax, and be prepared to deal with docx MS files. Next turn for docx to make you crazy.

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05/27/2008 12:36 AM

Never, ever rely on MS file types when sending files to other computers. Export the original file as a comma-separated text file. Then you can read it back in to what ever program you want to use. This also works with documents- save as plain ASCII text files- if you don't mind losing the pictures, tables, and other such pretties...

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05/27/2008 7:06 AM

I am not a master of course, but in hope that I'm enough skilled to make readable any doc files, docx include. And I prefer to save files in RTF format --- it's simply program code and I can save here even pictures. But some of my friends being common users had stuck with this docx problem and called me how to resolve this sad trouble.

When it happened for the first time I was really surprised do why MS had fenced its own users from ability to read new docx files even through not yet obsolete MS Office 2003?

In any case thank you so much for advice.

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05/27/2008 6:03 AM

Ah yes, one of Billy's own files and it says:Doesn't recognize file type. I HATE that.

But, I keep buying his junk software. :(

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05/27/2008 4:59 PM

For one simple reason. We don't want to be boxed in a market where only ten percent of the computer population are.

I recently had data responsive to an open records request from government here in Atlanta provided to me, e-mail files, in an Outlook format that neither I, nor a friend with the latest Outlook software could open.

Had to make them go back and provide it as an ASCII file.

When you need software there is a huge library available for Microsoft users. That is why we stay with it.

But you all know that.

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05/27/2008 5:15 PM

That's really strange, isn't it. Apples are so good, so great, so grand, that only 10% of the users use them. How funny.

And the only reason they have those people using them was because (and probably still does) gives millions of $$$ worth of them to schools.

Yep, the business world pretty well runs on MS-DOS for PC's and terminals. How many Apple servers are there? I don't remember seeing any.

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05/27/2008 8:21 PM

It's been a while but about five six years ago a friend was having a similar problem with uncle bills' software on a intra net. Don't know if it will still work but I fix the "I don't recognize my own type of files system" by using Linux's Apache server to mediate and at that time it fixed a lot of Mr. bill's I can't talk to other copies of my self because I'm prophylactic issues.

Sorry to busy debugging my syntax to vista interface to be of any help (intuitive? I'd return to NT if I could get a little support/compatibility). NT to Vista is a big change.

I think my house intra net will be penguin powered.

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05/28/2008 11:47 PM

Vista is a big change

Yes it is a fresh breathe of air indeed. Since I have no point of reference of your complaints. But I'm very curious about somethings, I too have a love/hate relationship with MS mostly due ambiguous posturing in XP. I do enjoy apples and they revive you much better than coffee but penguins are way over dressed.

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05/29/2008 12:40 AM

Apache with MySQL, php, phpMyAdmin --- very good stuff.

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05/30/2008 8:05 AM

I used XP for many years. Best platform MS ever produced. Got a new computer. It had Vista installed. I begged my wife to install XP over it (it is HER computer). She vowed to plug along with the NEW IMPROVED platform. I've been listening to her complain for a year. Should have done the over-install myself.

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05/30/2008 4:33 PM

GOOD LUCK.

Bought a new HP last December (07) and already had a full, sealed copy of XP Pro here, since I could't order it (the computer) off Costco's website with XP on it... only the JUNK Vista.

Messed around on it a month or so and said:"Today is the day." (for XP)

It is set up in RAID 0 so I just bought a new 500GB HDD and then the troubles started. Messed with that for a month and finally figured out that they were NOT lying when they said "don't try to go back to XP on 'this' machine."

It's like they have something changed for the video (trying to find video drivers for XP to run this 30" Dell monitor was NOT available for the video card {an 8600 w/512MB of ram] that came in the machine) and maybe some other hardware on it had/has been jinked for Vista.

I gave up, wasn't into buying this new, that new, etc to make the thing work with XP Pro.

What a piece of garbage Vista is. But what do I do with a $2,200.00 box (I can use the 30" monitor on a different box I suppose by buying a different video card. Then it would be:

$2,200.00 box

$1,300.00 monitor

$120.00 500GB HDD

$130.00 XP Pro

$200.00 for a new video card

$ MILLIONS of dollars worth of frustration

Maybe later this year I will decide to spend the extra $200 and get a video card that will have drivers for XP Pro for a 30" monitor.

BECAUSE I HATE VISTA.

But am going to be forced to go to it ... someday. :(

In the mean time I have 4 other computers here, 2 notebooks and 2 boxes that DO have XP on them to use.

Vista handles filenames and extensions weird, just like all the rest of the stuff it does. Gotta find me a WAB file and see how it handles it.

Are we having fun yet?

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05/30/2008 5:11 PM

What amazes me is we accept this crap from Microsoft... whatever happened to
'The customer is always right'
'Supply and demand'
'Market forces'
'Customer service'

Would we put up with this is in any other market?

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05/30/2008 5:57 PM

I guess we are all super stupid when it comes to accepting "crap" from MS, Del.

Because we all sure seem to keep eating it up.

Of course I enjoy it more than I did CP/M... but that was a while back when that was popular. And I left it quickly and put ZCPR-3 on my machines. Even tried OS/2 for a while. Still have some copies of that out in the back shop.

Like I said:"Are we having fun yet?"

I haven't decided yet...

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05/30/2008 6:21 PM

CP/M <thud ...falls off chair>

Blimey guv' I'd forgotten about that!

My first day on my previous job many years ago I walked into my little lab/office and there was this strange CP/M machine on which I wrote my first ever commercially sold bit of code!
It was all a bit scarey for a day or two until I'd digested the manuals (hmm maybe I should have read 'em instead )

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05/30/2008 7:36 PM

I still miss Roscoe and ucc1, ucc11, Unix, Memorex 122 keyboards, etc. Nothing like pushing the IPL button on a major mainframe.

My next system is going to be Linux based with and Apache server so when I want to fix something I can do it my self. Not wait for a patch of dubious ability/problems. I'll have to take some classes but the lack of frustration will be wonderful.

I'll keep a system using MS but until they do some major house cleaning I'll keep my spending their way to the bare minimum.

What burned my hide was buying a high end printer from Canon years back saying it was NT compatible. Drivers didn't work so I called Canon an they said they are in the MS updates. So I call MS because I could not find them and MS says it is Canon's problem but we will write you some for $100. per hour. Come to find out the team writing them at MS was fired for not doing their job and no one ever finished the project. I managed to Hack 98 for the drivers and insert them into NT. Worked great unless you had to reinstall the drivers. From then on Canon and MS lost my sympathy. Even XP is a bunch of bloat ware(Orders of magnitude bigger than needed).

If a team was to write a solid OS in Assembler and the software to make it usable you would need to slow it down just to read your screen. Everything would fit on a CD with room to spare.

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05/31/2008 2:23 AM

If a team was to write a solid OS in Assembler and the software to make it usable you would need to slow it down just to read your screen. Everything would fit on a CD with room to spare.

EXACTLY! Here have a tin of my finest virtual Sardines .

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05/31/2008 5:49 AM

But when we are talking about MS we should maybe spell it:

SOURdines.

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05/31/2008 6:10 AM

So you think the whole MS offering is slick, clean, user friendly, consistent, versatile, mutually compatible, maintainable and fast ?
Right?

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05/31/2008 6:28 AM

It IS consistant.

It f***s up ALL the time. ALL THE TIME. Last time for me 23 minutes ago.

Windows Explorer - we're sorry (what a crock of sh**), Windows Explorer has encountered an error and MUST close.

They don't even offer to use vaseline. They just ram it in dry.

And I had to be so smart and get on his band wagon 20 years ago... now I have so many thousands of $$ worth of software that only runs on it that I am stuck.

Yes, as you can tell, I AM a happy camper when it comes to MS.

My girlfriend Keli shows how I think of MS:

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05/31/2008 6:32 AM

It IS consistant.

It f***s up ALL the time PMSL
Argghh the pic you posted doesn't show up...now ya got me all excited thinking it was.....

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05/31/2008 12:53 PM

ooooh she purrrrrety I'm in lurve .

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06/02/2008 7:03 PM

I cannot view the picture, were you using windows?

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