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Temperature Sensing Probe

06/10/2008 7:39 AM

I am seeing a temperature sensing probe with some gel like substance filled in the housing.

Can I know whats the probe type and why filled with the gel substance.

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Re: Temperature sensing probe

06/10/2008 7:55 AM

The gel is there to encourage heat transfer, and speed up the response of the probe to process temperature changes. It's a gel to stop it falling out easily, and to stop it evaporating easily.

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Re: Temperature Sensing Probe

06/10/2008 10:12 AM

It all depends on the nature of the "Gel"

If it is a viscous liquid (usually white to beige to grey in colour) then it is as described previously - A material conducive to the conduction of heat though most commecrial probes avoid such materials as "filler".

If the gel is a solid then it is more likely a silicon based potting compound to mechanically hold the sensor in place and protect it to some degree. This is most often found in low cost probes and pretty much standard for most thermistor probes.

As to probe type the usual method of deduction is as follows.

4 wires, 3 of one colour and a forth of an other - usually an RTD

3 wires, 2 of one colour and one of a third - usually an RTD

2 wires of two colours - RTD, TC or thermistor - The colours used help narrow things down. RTDs are usually red/white and white jacket. TCs are usually Red/Blue and blue jacket T-type, Red/Yellow Yellow jacket K-type, Red/White black jacket J-type.

To verify the sensor type you could use a very sensitive multimeter and a sensor handbook, but a meter designed for reading an RTD/TC is a better bet. Just connect the sensor to the appropriate terminals of the meter and check if you get a reading and if it is reasonably close to correct.

If it turns out your sensor is not a TC or an RTD then it most likely is a Thermistor or some form of integrated sensor.

Hope this helps deduce what you are looking at.

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Re: Temperature Sensing Probe

06/10/2008 11:07 PM

TC's have solid wires.In a single TC (two wires) one wire is attracted by a magnet and the other one is not. regards

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Re: Temperature Sensing Probe

06/11/2008 10:37 AM

...one wire is attracted by a magnet...

Not always. That is true for Type J thermocouples which has iron for one of the wires. Additionally, RTDs also use solid wires.

The best way I know to tell them apart (if you can't pull them out of the thermowell or sheath) is to measure their resistance. An RTD will have value above 100Ω (if you're doing your test where it's above 0°C). A thermocouple will have a very low resistance (between 0 to 3Ω, if the thermocouple is new)

If you can pull them out of the sheath, the RTD will usually have a ceramic or glass bulb while a thermocouple will look like two wires welded together.

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Re: Temperature Sensing Probe

06/11/2008 7:19 AM

The gel acts as a good conductor of heat. If it is not there temeperatue indicated will be less than the actual tempertaure ,..because air is bad conductor of heat.

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Re: Temperature Sensing Probe

06/14/2008 12:11 PM

I have seen thermister sensors placed in bottles of glycerin used for alarms in critical coolers. Blood banks etc. The glycerin slows the the temp rise to prevent alarms every time the door is poened for a period of time. This also emulates the product temp.

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