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COOLING TOWER

07/30/2008 10:38 PM

WE HAVE 2 COOLING TOWER CELLS MADE OF STAINLESS STEEL AND THEY ARE LEAKING ON SEAMS.WHAT I CAN USE TO SEAL LEAKS?

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Re: COOLING TOWER

07/31/2008 3:17 AM
  1. Turn off Caps Lock
  2. Apply submersible silicone sealant, preferably to the inside surfaces.
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07/31/2008 10:48 PM

Check for what additives you are putting in the cooling tower to control corrosion or Legionella. Check for compatability with SS. Check for possibility of Stress Corrosion cracking.

If all comes out good, check for vibration and fatigue failure. If vibration leading to fatique failure comes out to be the issue then find a way to strengthen the failure area by use of stiffeners.

If the leak is from the expansion joints on the civil works, then use Combiflex on the joints.

To contain the leak in the first pass, use temporary measures such as sealants suggested by PWSlack.

I am sure if you follow the suggested approach, you should solve the problem.

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08/01/2008 12:07 AM

i have used araldite successfully you need to empty the cooling tower and dry the area you need to seal clean the area that has to be sealed with fine sandpaper throughly mix the araldite compound till you get dirty smell from the mixture and the mixture becomes slightly hot due to chemical reaction of two components of araldite. and apply the mix on the seams with a clean stainless steel thin rod or wire allow to dry, on board submarines i have used this to seal leaks on engine exhaust lines ,cooling water lines and even high pressure compressed air lines subject to pressures of 10Kg/sq cm and temperatures of 400-500 degree C the araldite holds up to six months to a year when you take a long shutdown you can go permanent stainless steel weld of the seams.good luck

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08/01/2008 12:29 AM

Sounds good, but Araldite makes lots of adhesives. Which one did you use?

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08/01/2008 3:45 AM

we were using general industrial grade two component (hardner and resien)

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08/01/2008 7:17 AM

Before any repairs are made, you should do NDT to determind the cause and extent of the problem.

After NDT evaluation, you will be able to make a proper course of action. Weld repair, sealant, or replacement.

How large are your cells? If your tank is large, you must do an evaluation. Large tanks can fail in a catastrophic moment causing death and destruction.

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Re: COOLING TOWER

08/01/2008 1:13 AM

You can use M seal manufacture by Pidilite in India in operation of cooling tower, and weld it when ever you get a shut down.

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Re: COOLING TOWER

08/01/2008 8:23 AM

Have you contacted the equipment manufacturer?

They are your best source for a problem such as the one that you are having.

Look at the equipment manual or reference material and you might find the answer.

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08/01/2008 9:37 AM

I would be willing to bet a sizable chunk of money that the root cause of the failure is going to be sensitization of the HAZ during welding caused by too much heat input during welding to achieve good puddle flow. Welding Stainless Steel is appreciably different from welding carbon steel and it is a common mistake of inexperienced/uneducated welders to crank up the power to get the puddle to flow out well. Too much heat in the HAZ will lead to chromium carbides forming in the HAZ. This will tie up the chromium and prevent it from serving to make the chromium oxide protective layer. You'll end up with a corrosion seam in the HAZ every time. Molten Stainless is viscous and does not flow well and it leaves an ugly bead. Welders HATE that and they strive to make the bead look pretty. That takes additional heat. The use of low carbon stainlesses (304L or 316L for instance) for weldments help, but do not eliminate this problem. Low carbon stainlesses are also lower strength than their higher carbon bretheren so designers will sometimes use them anyway, or purchasing people will substitute it not knowing the difference.

Welders in training are repeatedly cautioned to use the absolute minimum power and shortest dwell time possible with Austentic Stainlesses, and almost universally the less experienced ones disregard this advice.

This article covers the metallurgical issues with sensitization of Austentic Stainlesses.

http://www.msm.cam.ac.uk/phase-trans/2005/Stainless_steels/stainless.html

You can try to grind the HAZ out and re-weld but you will have to make sure you grind the HAZ out completely, which means that the weld will be that much larger (and hotter). If this is your chosen repair, use alloy 347 filler wire. It is stabilized with niobium (columbium for you old timers out there) and will help to tie up the carbon preferentially leaving the chromium to do it's job of preventing corrosion.

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Re: COOLING TOWER

08/01/2008 9:40 AM

Zorandodo,

Hello! I see that this was your first post to CR4, Welcome!

I think that you can tell by the number of responses to your question that we are a helpful, albeit sarcastic, group.

I, myself, am still relatively new to the site and due to multiple deployments I do not access it as often as I'd like but I'd like to share some knowledge I've gained since being a member.

First, be assured that any post in this forum will get some type of response, so post here in confidence.

Second, especially when posting a question or request for assistance, include as much detail as you can up front. You are then almost guaranteed to get some input that is actually relative to your issue.

If the issue or item is complex or hard to describe, photos or drawings can be attached as well and can be quite helpful.

Using your original post as an example, there are so many different configurations and sizes of cooling towers, not to mention water treatment chemicals, all of which would garner a different answer or solution to your problem.

After all that is considered, then there is the question of the location, size, and severity of the cracks.

Then there is a question of process requirements... does your industry or process limit what type of compounds can come in contact with the cooling water? Since they are stainless steel I would assume some level of criticality.

Referring back to my first point, we are a very helpful bunch but are not mind readers. The more effort and detail you put into your your question, the more effort and detail we are likely to provide in our response.

Third, try to make your posts legible, as previously mentioned by PWSlack, all CAPS can be difficult to read, just like a single paragraph can be difficult to read as well.

Proof your message multiple times as well, prior to posting. As, regarding technical issues, a single type-o can change the entire meaning of the sentence or thought-string.

Forth, and finally, explore the CR4, join discussion groups, help other posters with your ideas (it's a two-way street - we help you - you help us) and most importantly... have fun!

Again, welcome to the CR4 and good luck with your leaking towers.

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Re: COOLING TOWER

08/01/2008 9:48 AM

Go to this website. http://www.belzonamolecular.com/ Ask them how to contact your local representative. Follow their instructions exactly.

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Re: COOLING TOWER

08/01/2008 10:00 AM

One other thing to consider. if you use an epoxy type repair, you will probably have a problem with pitting corrosion along the edge of the repair, especially if chlorine is your disinfectant of choice.

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Re: COOLING TOWER

08/03/2008 2:04 AM

Welding.

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