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Making an Adjustment to the Olympics?

08/21/2008 10:06 AM

How about, instead of medal league tables we have this method...?

Here is some data analysis for you:

Enough of all this Olympic medal table nonsense! Obviously China are going to win more medals than anyone else; they've got 20% of the world's population so have more people to turn into top-class athletes. So let's remove the population factor and compare countries on medals per person (mpp) instead.

Avoiding any boring old assumptions about fitness, age and finance, my calculations show that in fact, the best performing nation as of midday on the 20th August 2008 is Slovenia, with 2.4 millionths of a medal per person, followed by New Zealand (2.1 millionths of a medal per person) and Jamaica (1.8 millionths of a medal. Micro medals, if you like). Armenia is in fourth, and Australia is fifth, beating the UK (20th), the US (41st) and China (59th). Each Chinese person has a mere 0.05 millimedals, or 50 micro medals.

Looking at gold medals per person, we see Bahrain at the top of the table. Each Bahraini has 1.3 golden millimedals, streets ahead of second place Estonia on 0.74 gold millimedals but there's Jamaica, third again on 0.73 gold millimedals, and Australia in 5th place with 0.51 gold millimedals per person. The Chinese rank 40th in this table with 30 gold nanomedals, and Britain is 12th, with a quarter of a gold millimedal each. Spare a thought for the Indians. Each Indian has only 0.0008 gold millimedals each, or 800 golden nanomedals.

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08/21/2008 10:38 AM

I think you've confused a couple of milli with micro's or is it nano medals???

Good idea though

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08/21/2008 11:21 AM

But then it would probably boil down to the country with the highest technology or something else...

Its trying to stay within the original 'heart' of "The Games."

I do not like any 'cheating' as far as steriods and such! Should make the penalities EXTREMELY hard on the country &/or althlete whom does 'cheat.' Something along the lines of possible banning that country from that Olympic compition.

Way back in 1979 I held almost all of my Jr. High Schools records; all but one on 'weight lifting" - most of the 'running' records. Then that summer a bunch of younger kids, which I later found out, had started using steriods at summer break. Looking at them before the break and then after break you knew something was up! Talk about being 2 to 3 times bigger (body size & muscle mass, etc)... Then my records started to fall... Then one of the guys - whom I considered a friend - asked me if I wanted to take some steriods... I cursed him and walked away... I earned those records with my own hard work and effort... Then some little punks HAVE to use steroids to get to my records and then break them... To me, they HAD to cheat, those records are mine and will be mine forever!

I told the instructor, he couldn't do anything without any proof... I just walked away from all that.

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08/21/2008 2:55 PM

I think any medal is degnity and achievment of the personal athlet/team which fairly earn it after years of very hard work. I'm so doubt that any informal national ratings scored of medals are bringing good things to sport environment at all.

Nevertheless I do like your idea, Frank787. At least it hopefully could be cool down this madness for medal fever - no matter means (doping, cheating, etc).

How about to correlate medal league table with square meters of national territory, GDP and Green Gases emiting?

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08/21/2008 10:56 PM

My country is in 10th place of the medal table with "only" 16million people. while india which has over 1 billion people is not represented much, it depends more how much money/effort a country spends on its atletes to succeed.

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08/22/2008 8:10 AM

Money is not the only issue. For achieving a great results sport has to be converted in industrial branch (business if you like) or/and object of profound scientific researches.

For instance in China as I know a whole institutes with several handreds staff were studying technique only of optimal diving. Ideal Athlet's parametres, system of scientifecly approved training regime, nutrition and so on, all this stuff and much more have to be studied and applied for best results.

Needles to say sport has to be stay in some way as an object of nationals' passion (for attracting mentioned above money and talented people). And it's stayed. I am not sure is it for good at all?

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08/21/2008 11:19 PM

Good angle of looking to Olympics.

You didn't mention the Gold Medals per person for America. (What is the rank of USA in this way of looking)

We should not underestimate China by looking to the fact in this way. I am from India, which has worst performance in terms of total medals, gold medal and medals per person as well as gold medals per person. Still I admire China, as I have visited China in 2000, and witnessed the sporting activities going on there. Early morning, you can see hundreds of people exercising and playing in public gardens, sports grounds etc. This spirit is non existing in India, and not even in Europe (few countries I have seen)

Looking your ways, always will have advantage to nations with less population. Just one person from small community gives great figure of medals per person.

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08/22/2008 1:03 AM

Frank787

Could you please work out were Queensland ( Australian state) would be on your list. We have 1.2 mil. inhabitants but have 90% of the Australian medals. We would be right up there I suppose. Come on give us a macro medal. Go Queenslander!

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08/22/2008 1:08 AM

You will get best figure, if you calculate for some avenue of the city, where some body has won the gold

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08/22/2008 8:17 AM

Don't forget about those nations rich enough to "buy" medals through the offering of huge bonuses for their athletes, if they win a gold medal. The dangling carrot incentive goes a long way in those deep, dark, lonely hours of training.

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08/22/2008 8:22 AM

What about the poor bastards that were expected to win, but they lose! One way ticket to Siberia or some such place.

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08/22/2008 8:46 AM

Hello guest,

Even in countries inhabited as you said "poor bastards" authorities were/are quite wise do not threat athlets to send them in such a place as Siberia with one-way ticket unless they won planned medal(s). It's irrational. Isn't it? Defeated athlet could face only risk to lose his/her favour in some privilegies. Otherwise no-one brutal regime could gather any team for any games (not only Olympics) at all.

I'm not sure about North Korea, though.

P.S. In SU times i didn't mind ever these medal's calculations. It's looked silly to my opinion, but not a value of sport.

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08/22/2008 1:03 PM

So how will you display YOUR quarter of a gold millimedal?

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