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Anti-Virus Software

09/25/2008 11:46 PM

Hello,

What is the best anti-virus software so as to protect the laptop / computer.

Hope your advice.

Thanks,

Emerald

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09/26/2008 1:27 AM

no the best. but all is good, search google , can find thousands of such software.

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Re: Anti-Virus Software

09/26/2008 4:25 AM

Hello "Guest" (Emerald)

There is no <"....best anti-virus software so as to protect the laptop / computer.....">

Firstly you need to advise your Operating System:

  • Mac - version
  • Windows - version
  • Linux - version
  • Other - version

Please remember that no Antivirus Application is able to fully protect a computer.

These days an unprotected computer on Broadband (24/7) connection is likely to have the first Malware arrive within 18 seconds.

A Dial-up computer is likely to have the first Malware arrive within 3 minutes.

When the first Malware installs itself, it generally sends out messages, inviting likewise to the improperly protected computer.

This means the following:

  1. Effective Antivirus
  2. Effective AntiMalware Security able to locate and Quarantine/Remove the following:
  • Viruses
  • Trojans
  • Worms
  • Scripts
  • Adware
  • Spyware
  • Keylogger
  • Password locator
  • and more....

Because there is not even a combination of two different Security Applications, which are able to ensure full computer safetyseveral must be used on a 24/7 basis.

There must also be an effective Firewall, and Microsoft Windows Firewall is full of Security holes, so cannot be depended upon, for any Windows operating System.

All computer Security Software must be installed in the correct order, and all be compatible with each other.

So you see, far more than "An Antivirus" is required, to keep one's Data safe.

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09/27/2008 3:51 PM

could you plz explain to us each type of threats that you refer to(viruses,trojans,worms......etc)?

worm regerds

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10/05/2008 8:38 PM

Hello eng_ahmedhammad@yahoo.com:

Just a friendly note to you OK..........................

I would change your user-name. It is not advisable to use any email address in the name, as, this could allow spammers to deluge your email site!

You should list the email in your profile but, NOT as part of your user-name.

You may have to write to administrator to alter your name.

This is the admin' address, they are very helpful and often reply within an hour or even a few minutes.

<cleonard@globalspec.com>

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10/06/2008 8:03 AM

Its only a Yahoo address, just throw it away and get a new one......that way, the spammers can load it up as much as they want and who cares....

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09/26/2008 11:50 PM

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I can't really do any better than sparkstation has said and advised.

This is an anti-virus web search address:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLJ_enGB294GB294&q=antivirus+

This is anti-virus reveiws. Gives good advice and, you can see what other reveiw sites have to say about the same anti-virus product. As a for instance AVG.

This is an anti-virus and anti-spyware workshop. Very detailed.

http://antivirusworkshop.com/handcrafted2.asp?run_init=1

Find something you like the sound of through reading various info' on various sites and try a free version to see if it works with the other software you have. And it will also give you a chance to see if you can get on with and configure it?

What I would say is get a seperate Anti-spyware apps and Anti-virus apps. Recently I was advised to use

I would go for specialised products.

1) For antivirus. And 2) for anti-spyware. I would go for a couple and use windows own firewall, and see how you get on. Sometimes products have their own firewall and in this case you should disable but still allow windows to see and check on the new firewall. In general two firewalls do not work, and are certainly not 'twice as safe' or twice as good.

Go for a product which update as often as possible. I use Spyware Doctor which has anti-spyware and antivirus. It update sometimes as much as several times an hour. This means it should be able to find the nasty virus' and Trojans, rather than something which update once a day or even less-once a week. That is something you should also do; configure any apps you get to update as often as possible. I have mine give a 'beep' when it is finished and or when it needs updating. Some have a little window which reminds you each time you log on to update. But I would go for auto-update where possible.

You should also have the windows auto-update switched on. Windows or Microsoft will update by downloading any critical software which might prevent the nasty bugs getting into your system.

Do not forget 'HELP' in any version of windows. Click on the icon, or press the windows logo key on your keyboard. Try and keep a request for help to short sentences or single words. Enter 'email' and you should have anything that relates to email listed. In this case try taking the list of nasty bugs Sparkstation has listed and see what it says. Type antivirus, or anti-virus in the help search box or go down the help list (alphabetical) until you find what you want.

Do not think of this as boring as you look through HELP. You will find things out which could take a whole lot of time on-line. And the HELP in windows is related to the type of window you have on view. Have email on view and any help will be email related. Have a web page or browser in view and the help will be more generic giving a larger search and item choice. As a for instance here is the help window:

This is just the first of many areas in HELP which explains about possible threats.

Understanding security and privacy features

Internet Explorer provides a number of features that can help protect your privacy and help make your computer more secure.

Privacy features in Internet Explorer include settings that allow you to control how your computer handles cookies, privacy alerts that let you know when you try to go to a site that doesn't meet the criteria in your privacy settings, and ability to view a websites privacy policy.

Security features in Internet Explorer include the following:

  • The ability to detect and block suspected and reported phishing websites.
  • The ability to block most pop-up windows.
  • The ability to update, disable, or allow web browser add-ons.
  • Notification when a website is trying to download files or software to your computer.
  • Digital signatures, which tell you who published a file and whether it has been tampered with it since it was digitally signed.
  • A 128-bit secure connection for using secure websites.

Which security features are turned on when I first use Internet Explorer?

By default, Internet Explorer is set to provide a level of security that can help protect you against common threats, such as spyware or other types of malware, when browsing the web. These settings can help protect against known security threats, such as websites installing add-ons or other programs without your knowledge. For new and unknown vulnerabilities and threats, Internet Explorer's Protected Mode setting keeps websites from gaining access to your computer.

How can I protect my privacy when I'm online?

Internet Explorer provides the following features that can help protect your privacy when you're online.

  • Privacy settings that specify how your computer handles cookies.
  • Privacy alerts that let you know when you try to go to a website that doesn't meet the criteria in your privacy settings.
  • The ability to view a website's privacy statement.

Why am I getting the message Your security setting level puts your computer at risk?

You are getting this message because certain security settings are at a lower level than is recommended. By default, Internet Explorer has a minimum level for some settings that can help protect your computer from websites that are trying to install malicious or unwanted software without your knowledge or permission. When security settings are not at recommended levels, Internet Explorer will display a full page notification when you first start and display an information bar while you browse.

How do I know which settings are not at recommended levels?

To see which security settings are not at recommended levels, follow these steps:

To view Internet Explorer security settings

  1. Click the Tools button, and then click Internet Options.
  2. Click the Security tab.
  3. Click the Internet icon, and then click the Custom level button. Settings that are not at recommended levels are highlighted in red.
  4. When you are finished reviewing your security settings, click OK twice.

What is changed when I click Fix settings for me on the Information bar when my computer is at risk?

When you click Fix settings for me on the Information bar, Internet Explorer will reset the security settings that put your computer at risk back to their recommended settings.

How can I change Internet Explorer security settings?

To change Internet Explorer security settings

  1. In Internet Explorer, click the Tools button, and then click Internet Options.
  2. Click the Security tab.
  3. Click the Internet icon.
  4. Do one of the following:
    • To change individual security settings, click Custom level. Change the settings as desired and click OK when you are done.
    • To set Internet Explorer back to the default security level, click Default level.
  5. When you are finished making changes, click OK to return to Internet Explorer.

How do I change my Internet Explorer privacy settings?

To change Internet Explorer privacy settings

  1. In Internet Explorer, click the Tools button, and then click Internet Options.
  2. Click the Privacy tab.
  3. Under Settings, do any of the following:
    • To allow or block cookies from specific websites, click Sites.
    • To load a customized settings file, click Import. These are files that modify the rules that Internet Explorer uses handle cookies. Since these files can override default settings, you should only import them if you know and trust the source.
  4. When you are finished making changes to your privacy settings, click OK.

Where can I find more information about protecting my computer and my privacy when I'm online?

You can find information about these topics on the Microsoft Security (http://www.microsoft.com/security) website and the Microsoft Protect Your PC (http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxpsp2) website.

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Re: Anti-Virus Software

09/27/2008 1:22 AM

Hello Emerald,

I tend to like Norton, and use it on all my computers, but there are numerous antivirus software company's that offer products that are equally good. They all have their good and bad points.

The best approach to computer security is the layered approach. There is no single software that will catch and protect you from every threat. The use of both antivirus, firewall, anti-spyware and other security technologies will help keep your computer safe.

Several companies allow you to run a virus check via the internet for free. Although a great tool, don't depend on this as a form of protection. These just tell you that you have a problem and are not a preventative measure to keep your computer safe.

What you use the laptop for, and where you use it (public vs private internet access) should dictate the level of security that is required. Though if your laptop is part of a network it should have at least the same level of protection as any other computer in your network regardless of its use. Be careful and look into compatibility issues. Some software does not play well with others, especially if they perform the same functions.

Regarding which software brand to use:
First, make sure that it is a reputable company. Some lower end /cheaper antivirus companies may install or allow 3rd party software that can collect and send out your private information. (READ THE FINE PRINT)

Second, research and read user comments about the software. This will give you some insight on known issues with the software and a general idea about the popularity of the program. If nobody else likes it, there is little chance you will either.

Third, unless you know what you are doing, stay away from the bells and whistles. These might be great to someone who knows what they are doing in terms of setting them up, they can lead to a sense of false security if they are not set up properly.

Fourth, use the trial period that most come with to see if you like the certain product that you choose before you commit to buying it. If you like, buy. If not, delete and move on.

Along with good security software, better common sense will help keep you secure.
-Don't open unexpected email attachments. Even if supposedly sent from someone you know and trust. "They" may not have sent it.
-Stay away from un reputable/questionable web sites. Some online game and adult web sites among others, are great places to pick up the most current virus
-Be careful of what you download/install on you computer. That little program with a cute little kitty cat that plays with your icons and craps on the taskbar, is also stealing your identity, passwords, and leaving other stinking messes for you to cleanup all over your hard drive.
-Turn off your computer or at least unplug your internet connection if you are not using it.
-Make sure all your programs are updated regularly with the most current patches.

It really is a shame that there are some really stupid F-ing people out there that see fit to ruin what has become one of the greatest tools man has invented, by creating and distributing viruses and other invasive and disruptive software, which costs the rest of us untold amounts of money to fix and shield ourselves from.
To those who do, I send you the one finger salute.

Sorry, Got a little carried away there. I hope this helps and you find what you are looking for.

Good Luck

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Re: Anti-Virus Software

09/27/2008 2:48 AM

Presently I don't use anything except the firewall that comes with my softeware.

Of course I am not clicking on junk sites or links either. and no Porn!

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09/27/2008 4:47 AM

Hello dadw5boys,

I hope that you don't mean that you are using Windows Firewall. It has more holes in it than Swiss cheese, and I would trust a block of swiss to protect my computer more than I would Windows Firewall. And unless your computer is locked on to only view CR4, (I've thought about it) I would consider investing in antivirus software. You might just be surprised horrified at what you might find.

Like Sparkstation pointed out, with 24/7 internet connections, it is only a matter of minutes before malware finds you.

There are several decent firewalls and other security software out there that are free to use. But again like I said in my earlier post, Read the fine print. There are many (not all) that require you to accept using 3rd party software. But if the choice is not having anything, I would choose the software. That goes the same with free antivirus software.

Zonealarm is a good free firewall, and when I used it last, it was adware and spyware free. But there are many others as well.

I would also like to point out to others that might read this and may not know,

Antivirus software, Firewall software, Anti-spyware, and other security "anti" type software are completely different animals with each one performing a different task. Using one without the the others is asking for trouble.

I just recently fixed a computer for a lady I know. The computer had anti-virus and parental software installed (both at least 2 years out of date). The computer was used strictly by her kids (10 years old and under) to view children oriented web sites. The computer was so full of crap that I didn't even bother reformatting the drive, I just replaced it.

Web sites that cater to children are just as notorious as adult sites are when it comes to spreading malicious software.
In each case the persons who set up those sites know that the user will click on and agree too just about anything to get at the goodies.

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Re: Anti-Virus Software

09/27/2008 10:23 AM

As stated above, no program is perfect. I was using CA anti-virus. It let one through, and I couldn't boot my computer except in safe mode. I bought ESET, which includes both anti-virus and firewall, and it fixed the problem right away. Does this mean CA is no good, and ESET is great? No, just that for this particular virus, ESET knew about it and how to get rid of it. Next week, or next year, I might get one that ESET doesn't know about.

Norton and Symantec are the best known. Anti-VIR and Zone Alarm are the best known free packages. All are good, but talk to someone with a similar system to yours first, since there are sometimes compatibility issues.

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09/27/2008 10:31 AM

For Vista I use Avast antivirus and Zone Alarm firewall......... for FREE

For XP I use AVG antivirus and Zone Alarm ........FREE as well.

Also recommend using Spybot, Ad aware and CCleaner.

Remember, you can have fun....or.....you can be secure but you can't have both.

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09/27/2008 12:50 PM

Beware of any upgrade, codex, driver and scan it before installing.

Between HP and MS I couldn't fix a root kit trojan my lairs of security told my I downloaded in a codex for a popular video player. Looks like a virus set the video player to download the false codex but that is an educated guess that was missed by the security.

By the time I removed the trojan my system was hammered into fragments and HP would only let me access their restore on a recovery disk boot system restore. The HP restore was old and did not fix many issues.

I'm going to a duel boot system clean of HP's help. My first programs will be McAfee, Spyware doctor, and Threatfire. and then some others.

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09/27/2008 3:56 PM

Kaspersky comes out the best in many European magazines, it also does not use as much computing power as Norton/Symantec does......its also cheaper, in fact I bought 3 licenses for €25......say around $32 or so on ebay, I guess I got lucky!!

It has also got an excellent built in Firewall.....no extra costs for that!!

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09/27/2008 8:48 PM

Hello Guest,

you may have noticed I did not finish one of my sentences. I could not recall the antivirus I was recently advised by someone on this site, to use.

It was ZoneAlarm. The new version (and maybe the previous ones as well, I do not know) creates a browser over the top of your original browser, so anything trying to attack, will attack the covering browser and not the real one? Hope you understand this. Good luck anyway, OK.

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09/28/2008 3:36 PM

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In my view Grisoft's AVG [Latest Ver8Free] is the best.

http://free.avg.com/ww.download?prd=afe

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09/29/2008 8:16 AM

Having consulted to the AV market from a marketing perspective- the best product changes from year to year. You can not trust the rating as they are paid for placements. The big box brands seem to be the worst overall but the smaller unknowns can be the best but have small staffs and can be wiped out. I use to use Authentium (Formerly Command Software still a good product but ownership changes) but now use AVG. Norton has caused me countless hours of having to repair my computer when using their 360 product (gave the product a shot). McAfee isn't worth talking about. Sophos is also consistent performer. Stay away from Central Command.

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09/29/2008 9:30 AM

Hello,

Check out this link to ESET NOD32's Award Page. It has links to a lot of Anti-virus testing and rating providers. Having used Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro and heaven help me AVG, this company blows them all away. Very low overhead, fast loading and have not had one instance of anything getting past it yet. I was pretty happy with trend micro but it is a resource hog. Check out what the ratings groups have to say and decide for yourself.

http://www.eset.com/company/awards.php

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09/29/2008 1:53 PM

how do I could predict which antivirus is compatible with which antispyware? last time, I used Norton, but when I tried it with McAfee, my pc went haywire like crazy dat I format my pc after a week.

rite now, I'm using kaspersky v8.0. It comes with anti-spyware, but i still thinking dat it wont be enough. Is zonealarm compatible with KIS in vista?

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09/29/2008 2:57 PM

I have Kaspersky 8 too, mine has a built in Firewall that seems flawless, at least for the last 6 months since I installed it!!

Check that you have correctly set everything up, you might have turned the Firewall off....Right click on the Kaspersky "K" and check all settings, you probably don't need to have the Parental control turned on.......

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09/29/2008 10:22 PM

For some "unknown" reason, Kaspersky response in scanning autorun virus in portable disk is quite slow... I need to show those hidden files in order to fasten up the antivirus response... AVG is responding well, but the virus update is twice slower than other software.

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09/30/2008 3:59 AM

In a recent test, here in Germany, of Antivirus programs to see exactly what percentage of Viruses were "discovered" by each product, the results were as follows, starting with the best products first:-

GData 99.8%, AntiVir Pro 99.7%, Kaspersky 98.7%, Symantec/Norton 98.0%, F-Secure 97.3%, Bullguard 97.3%, McAfee 95.6%, AntiVir Free Edition 95.5%, Panda 85.2%.

The tests made by ComputerBild Germany, run the whole time and the results are posted twice per month. The front runners rarely change positions or amounts found by much each time, in spite of new threats each and every day.

Not all products have a Firewall integrated, which was something I wanted as I wished that the Virus software would function well with the Firewall together. Also, I did not want the performance loss that Symantec brings with it, or the slow updating of Symantec products, so I chose Kaspersky.

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09/29/2008 11:35 PM

Never have two Anti virus programs loaded on the same computer. They can potentially interfere with one another and actually leave you open to viruses, trojans and malware.

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10/02/2008 1:45 AM

Do you mean installed or installed AND running. From several other posts it would appear none are perfectly capable of detecting ALL virus and malware threats. Therefore multiple programs seem essential.

My old computer is toast! Even changing hard drives did not help. Ended up with two computers and four HD infected. Even the local computer store could not help. Following advice from CNET and from posts here in CR4 also failed to effectively eradicate my particular nasty. Finally ended up having to get a different third computer. A new computer fully loaded with LINUX plus open office suite from RedHat is now on its way. After it arives its good riddance to Micro$oft tyranny.

Somebody said the protection software must be loaded in a particular sequence. What sequence? I have not seen anything like instructions of some specific sequence.

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Hello elnav

So good to see you're back at

Careful choice needs to be made, and if chosen correctly, and installed in proper sequence, it is possible to run simultaneously two Antivirus plus several other Security Utilities, all running on "Guard" setting 24/7, and if the CPU & RAM is enough, to run several simultaneous HDD scans.

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Hello, how it going sparky?...........

Did you do the animation yourself? Absolutely classic! I love all your different icons as well.

Well, I guess it is true, some are born to be good looking, and others to be brainy?

Unfortunately........................I was born not to follow these rules............

I am just dumb and ugly!

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10/05/2008 1:42 AM

Hello babybear

That picture was "liberated" from elsewhere, in this case from:

Picture properties: http://cr4.globalspec.com/PostImages/200712/burglar_looking_ani_B2685284-A931-E900-4CB7D70E36ED4CBB.gif

Find out how you can do that, by reading: http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/15743/How-to-insert-Graphics-into-your-Post-to-make-it-more-readable-or-interesting

Have a try, and with practice, it does become easy.

Kind Regards....

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10/05/2008 1:03 PM

Hello sparky,

I will look at your link another day, but, I will look, thanks........

Kind regards to you also..............

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10/02/2008 5:15 AM

Hello Elnav,

Do you mean installed or installed AND running. From several other posts it would appear none are perfectly capable of detecting ALL virus and malware threats. Therefore multiple programs seem essential.

Some software can be installed and run at the same time as long as they do not perform the same functions. Example, running an antivirus that also runs as a firewall usually means that a secondary firewall will conflict and create problems. The same is true with 2 different antivirus programs. This is based on how they work and protect the computer, and tend to be software that runs in the background on continuous basis on your computer from start up.
Stand alone Anti-spyware and other anti type software can usually be run without problems. Some can be scheduled to run at specific times and others need to be run manually. It is up to the user, based on their computing habit to determine when to run them. Once a day is great, but at least once a week or more is good enough.
Sometimes it takes trial and error, or read other user reviews and release notes to determine compatibility issues.

No unfortunately there is no software that can protect you 100% from all viruses and the like. That is why common sense in computing habits is essential, which is also not 100%. This is sometimes due to the fact to malware is put out on a near minute basis, and the design of the malware to attempt to hide itself from being discovered, among several other factors. In another post I suggested using online antivirus checking as a tool to help detect missed viruses and malware. Check it with several competing software makers. This can help find missed viruses, but is only another part of the routine that one must go through to protect themselves.

My old computer is toast! Even changing hard drives did not help. Ended up with two computers and four HD infected. Even the local computer store could not help. Following advice from CNET and from posts here in CR4 also failed to effectively eradicate my particular nasty. Finally ended up having to get a different third computer. A new computer fully loaded with LINUX plus open office suite from RedHat is now on its way. After it arives its good riddance to Micro$oft tyranny.

This can be caused in several ways. You may have a bios virus and would take installing a new bios may fix. The bios is the core operating system for the processor and outside the windows environment. These can go undetected by antivirus software.
Another reason is if you are reinstalling software that is already infected or from a backup that is infected.
Open source operating systems like LINUX are great, but are not virus or malware free, although there are very few. Exploits that can be found in Microsoft software are found and fixed faster in LINUX. Apple I hear, is also a good choice.

Somebody said the protection software must be loaded in a particular sequence. What sequence? I have not seen anything like instructions of some specific sequence.

It is usually best to install anti-malware software on a clean computer that has not been exposed to the internet or other sources. (Although Windows OS should be updated first with the most essential updates.) This means before your backups are installed, or other software that you would normally install. Once malware is established on your computer it is harder to detect and clean if the anti-malware is installed after the malware. Antivirus and firewalls adapt themselves better to new software than previously installed software.

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10/06/2008 7:57 AM

I dissagree with your statement:-

It is usually best to install anti-malware software on a clean computer that has not been exposed to the internet or other sources. (Although Windows OS should be updated first with the most essential updates.)

As from personal experience from 4 ot 5 years ago, having to go online for the Win updates can be fatal! I picked up a virus while downloading the Win updates from Microsoft, do not ask me how. and if the bad boys could do it then, they can do it 10x better today!!! I had to reformat and start again!!!

Install first the antivirus and a firewall first, THEN go nonline for updates, unless of course you have all the updates on a CLEAN CD.....

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10/06/2008 7:52 AM

The problems are quite difficult to understand, even for computer professionals......

I would like to make a few statements that may help you in the future as they recently helped me fix a computer with probably similar types of problems for a friend.

1) in over 99% of computer infestations, the user is at fault in some way - he didn't protect himself, he visited "bad" sites, he loaded "free" software, opened mails from unknown people, opened files that he had not requested, visits "free" porn sites, etc etc etc...

2) Rootkits are also very difficult to get rid of as I recently found out, they are not perceived as being a virus by most antivirus software.....

It needed for me to boot the problem PC with Linux (from a Linux boot CD).

Run a Linux based virus scanner to erase all infected files.

Save as much data under Linux (pictures and other safe files only).

Run a Linux format (one that actually writes a pattern over all the data on the disk, Windows format is completely useless for this!), remake the boot record (all under Linux!). Rescan for viruses and rootkits.

Then boot with the Windows recovery CD and reinstall windows and the saved data.

Install a good firewall and antivirus software before attaching the LAN cable and going online to update Windows.

It took me the best part 2 days between other jobs......

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11/04/2008 3:17 PM

Thanks Andy! This reply is somewhat belated since I suffered additional losses in the meantime. The first computer shipped to me arrived broken. Maybe the postal workes played basket ball with it. Or maybe Homeland Security used a powerful X-ray machine. Case front was broken and the BIOS wiped totally. Never saw that before. Strangely the packing box did not have any mark on it but the bottom had been retaped. Go figure.

Apparently a lot of other people also suffered from attack by same malware as I did. Some of them IT professionals who definitely practice safe computing. Just goes to prove -make something idiot proof and along comes a better idiot!

you mention:

It needed for me to boot the problem PC with Linux (from a Linux boot CD).

Run a Linux based virus scanner to erase all infected files.

Save as much data under Linux (pictures and other safe files only

Please give me a pointer to website that has some LINUX based virus software that cleans out Windows OS computers. I took your advice and am now running NOD32 since this particular malware has been documented to blow right through Symantec and the MS windows Defender protection. I now finally have a LINUX machine in addition to my MS box. Regrettably some things are available in Windows but so far I don't know where to get the equivalent in LINUX. And the wife is not happy with learning LINUX. If wife not happy -- nobody happy!

You said:

Then boot with the Windows recovery CD and reinstall windows and the saved data.

Maybe its different in Europe but now here in N. America MS insists that if you have changed anything like HD or added memory or any other changes in computer, you have a "different" computer and you must buy ( mucho $$$$) a new copy; sorry its actually only a lease or rent a new copy of their OS. I now have a new copy which will expire in one year. Yeah right!!

So I now have one year to figure out how to kick Microsoft right outta my life --- forever.

Incidentally I too suffered an infection while trying to download from MS the necessary updates. 2.5 minutes online garnered 9 different infections. Yikes. fortunately NOD32 managed to nail 7 of the nine. but two were impervious. Wipe reload, reconfigure. Grrr!

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11/04/2008 5:57 PM

Hello elnav:

Sounds like you have had a rough time! But you are also competent to be able to clear what happened. I to have gotten more than one infection from Microsoft. If you go to the 'Official site' in theory you should be OK. But, we also know Microsoft gets hits by thousands if not millions of infections a day, just because it is Microsoft!

The only way to go is to have a less popular and therefore less attractive to infection OS. I cannot see anyway round it, because if you do not get hit on the Microsoft site, you will or be likely to through the links on the way and back!

Good luck anyway.

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10/04/2008 4:40 AM

Hi,

Symantech antivirus is one of the anti virus software - we're using, It's quite working fine.

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10/06/2008 8:00 AM

Its still not the best (see the tests I posted recently in this blog) and it takes a lot of processor performance as well, otherwise OK.

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10/11/2008 11:46 AM

I just rebuilt my system using 64bit OS and found many of the programs I found effective don't yet support a 64bit OS. Spyware Doctor has a beta I'm trying to get but others don't even have that. McAfee did load just fine.

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