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oil storage tanks

10/05/2008 8:02 AM
  • curently i m working on the project of construction of oil terminal having mutliple oil storage tank from 22Metric Ton to 30000Metric Ton. we are using for shell ASTM A-36 plates for D Door ( sludge door) do we need heat treatment of it before erection ?
  • except porosity, root under cut, hi-lo, pits formation are there any major more defects that are needed to be reapir during welding process. ?
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10/06/2008 1:49 AM

Contact Abdel Halem Galala - he is an expert on this.

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10/06/2008 1:51 AM

Sorry Abdel Halim Galala

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Re: oil storage tanks

10/06/2008 2:55 AM

Tank you ducon, you are welcome.

A. As noted from Table 2-3a—Material Groups of API 650, the material ASTM A36 is located under two columns:

Group I As Rolled, Semikilled (must be semikilled or killed & Thickness ≤ 20 mm).

Group II As Rolled, Killed or Semikilled (Manganese content shall be 0.80–1.2% by heat analysis for thicknesses greater than 20 mm, except that for each reduction of 0.01% below the specified carbon maximum, an increase of 0.06% manganese above the specified maximum will be permitted up to the maximum of 1.35%. Thicknesses ≤ 20 mm shall have a manganese content of 0.8–1.2% by heat analysis).

From above we discover that ther is no any recommendation for proceeding a heat treatment (normalizing) for ASTM A36 before erection. Only there is my recommendation to proceed a preheating before welding to avoid heat choking and to avoid formulation of H2 entrapped to your weldment.

B. There are a lot of weld defects, the following handbooks are free downloading and will be very interesting to you in that subject:

• Welding Manual

• Gas Tungsten Arc Welding (TIG) Handbook

• Guidelines for Shielded Metal Arc Welding (SMAW)

• Guidelines for Gas Tungsten Arc Welding (GTAW)

• Guidelines for Gas Metal Arc Welding (GMAW)

• Submerged Arc Welding

• Resistance Spot Welding

• Stainless Steels - Their properties and their suitability for welding

• Underwater Cutting and Welding Manual

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10/07/2008 1:07 PM

Please check my reply on his recent thread "Answer them Plz".

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Re: oil storage tanks

10/20/2008 9:34 AM

Can I butt in -- with very brief replies?

#1 D Door ( sludge door) do we need heat treatment of it before erection

  • Tank Plate material is chosen for Good Welded strength ONLY.--
  • These plates are not hardenable-- in the sense of machined/grinded parts
  • So gaskets take care of possible non-parallelism.
  • Heat treatment will be pointless.
  • You can install a gate valve here instead.

#2 except porosity, root under cut, hi-lo, pits--Make sure -none of these happen.

#3 reapir during welding process__ Plan your Vertical weld with :

MIG-MAG /SAW/ELECTROSLAG so that you will never need repairs. Possible.

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