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What's the Difference Between Electrical Drawings and Electrical Diagrams?

04/09/2009 9:58 PM

I know it is a silly question but I am curious.

What is the difference between 'Drawing' and 'Diagram' in terms of electrical terminology?

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Re: Difference between Drawing and Diagram

04/10/2009 6:12 AM

Drawing is some thing different than Diagram. But as far as electrical engineering is concerned than there is not a big difference between these two words.

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Re: Difference between Drawing and Diagram

04/10/2009 8:12 AM

In Electricity,

Without diagram, there is no Drawing.

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Re: What's the Difference Between Electrical Drawings and Electrical Diagrams?

04/10/2009 3:17 PM

Cut the guy some slack

I would expect (and no shortage willing to correct me)

A drawing is detailed, has wire lengths, connector part numbers - essentially you can build from the drawing.

A diagram has most of these details removed because it is "conceptual" - it show the "effective" connections but not necessarily all the routing.

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04/10/2009 10:54 PM

I tend to agree with you in the detail side of thing in general. This question reminds me of a question asked of my father (a farmer for 50 years) by a young local journalist. It was " What is the difference between grass and lawn?" His reply was "See that fence there?". Pointing to the houseyard fence. "All the grass inside that fence is lawn, everything outside is grass".

It may look the same but it comes down to use and terminology.

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04/10/2009 11:35 PM

A schematic diagram shows the way functional blocks are connected together not always an indication of where the parts are in the real world. Here are assorted symbols

http://www.aaroncake.net/electronics/schem.htm

A component placement diagram shows where the parts are in the real world.

A printed circuit board layout shows where all the wires go to connect the parts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printed_circuit_board

A wiring diagram show the way parts are wired together in the real world, often with a wiring harness splayed out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_diagram

For a building the diagram shows where all the parts are located in the building. and uses a different construction standard component symbol set than a schematic diagram.

Explore this site and follow links and it will answer most of your questuons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_wiring

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04/11/2009 4:08 PM

Kind of like rope is what you buy, but when you put it to use on a boat, it becomes line.

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Re: What's the Difference Between Electrical Drawings and Electrical Diagrams?

04/11/2009 12:25 PM

Hi, msamad!

When the drawing is completed and being used, it becomes a diagram.

As it is being drafted, the person constructing the drawing has the finished diagram in mind, and may revise it several times until it is as simple as possible and efficient.

The difference is largely semantic; but generally, a drawing is something that is being or has just been drawn by someone. A diagram can either be a copy of a drawing being used for a particular application, or the original drawing being put into an applied use; and hence is the intended result of the drawing.

You can find a diagram in an appliance, but before it got there, somebody had to first make a drawing.

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04/11/2009 4:12 PM

These terms are often used synonymously. However, the inference is that a drawing usually is to scale and more representative of the real world, whereas, the diagram displays components and their interrelation to each other in order to convey an understanding of the workings of the concept.

The word "schematic" can be thrown in to confuse the issue further. (the root being to "scheme" or plan of course).

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04/12/2009 8:57 PM

When i worked at Phillips MDS we used both for the same meaning, so about your question the Letters W and M are different and there is an extra A on diagrams

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Re: What's the Difference Between Electrical Drawings and Electrical Diagrams?

04/13/2009 10:09 AM

Both of these document terms have been so frequently transposed that you really must go to the individual who wishes to differentiate between them. In less confusing terms, unless somebody like the IEEE or ANSI differentiates between these two words (unlikely), the difference is "in the eye of the beholder."

For me, a drawing is likely to be done by hand and may or may not be very legible. A diagram should be easy to comprehend for a trained eye.

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Re: What's the Difference Between Electrical Drawings and Electrical Diagrams?

04/13/2009 11:55 AM

Never a silly question...though some of our answers may well be ;)

Anyway, here's a stab from an architectural project engineer:

For the construction industry project bid documents, a Drawing is the final, signed and sealed document providing visual information, with or without notes, that compliment the specifications, which are generally standard word documents in a strict directive format.

As such, each "Drawing" will include border information, such as the project name, date of release, designer, company, copyright information, and titles.

Each Drawing will have a working space which may include reference information such as legends, general notes, and the Plans portion of the drawing set will include locations and overview plans for anything from a device to a room full of devices to a full building layout, and will generally be "to scale" so that cabling distances can be "taken off" for bidding and cost purposes, as well as showing actual device locations for quantity information.

Each Drawing in the Details section of the drawing set will typically have many "Diagrams," one for each functional circuit requiring any kind of clarification.

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Typically, no Diagrams are included for internal wiring that should be coming with a purchased device, such as internal relays, sensors, and circuits for an HVAC unit on the roof. Not to confuse things with reference to Diagrams noted below, but the contractors involved in terminating sensors and devices in the field will be directed to follow manufacturer's installation and wiring diagrams for reference, since these will be potentially quite different depending on which contractor is awarded the project, since each may quote his bid using completely different equipment manufacturers.
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On the bid document set Electrical Drawings, for instance, multiple items to activate a lighting circuit may be shown, such as occupancy sensors, manual switches, and photocells, which would have appropriate symbols representing each item along with the fixtures themselves. This may be done for each lighting circuit individually, or may include only one such Diagram as a "typical" with a note that the contractor should apply this typical diagram concept to each similar location in the project.

Similar Diagrams may be included for any field-installed devices that are not part of a packaged, factory system, such as motion and biometric sensors for security, or lighting level sensors for daylight harvesting with dimmable ballasts.

If there is space, many of these Diagrams may be placed on the same Drawing. To make them fit, Diagrams can be adjusted as far as the scale will allow and still be readable, since the connections shown between devices are functional in nature, rather than "to scale."

Hope that helps.

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Re: What's the Difference Between Electrical Drawings and Electrical Diagrams?

04/13/2009 12:30 PM

I still stick to my comment that often the difference is in the eye of the beholder. But Sandman, you do have good vision. You get a GA from me.

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04/14/2009 2:41 AM

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04/18/2009 5:52 PM

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