Kilowatt Buster?

It does not work. There are a number of these things for sale. They have been discussed on a number of other forums. Save your money.

Thanks so far. FYI the website of this company is www.kilowattbuster.com

I do agree, I have seen all types of "little majic boxes" marketed over the years which did little or nothing to an electric bill. Most of these devices were supposed to correct the power factor in motor operated appliances. The problems are 1) Most newer appliances are pretty efficient already and 2) Resisdential watthour meters do not penalize for power factor so even if the claims were true it wouldn't lower the bill any.

That is probably why this company has "invented" a whole new technology.

MOO?

Moo!

Your detectors are working very well. There seems to be a lack of ethics enforcement in our society. There is certainly no shortage of con artists but one would think a "company" would have a certain level of exposure for fraudulent claims. I wonder if it was a "spin-off" of a browns gas (HHO) generator manufacturer?

I, for one, am growing increasingly intolerant to con artists. I think we should petition the Fish and Wildlife bureau to declare "Open Season" on scammers and con artists. Their population is severely in need of significant thinning.

Oh, this device can be easily explained.

Obviously this plug-in unit is supressing the skin effect by giving the conductor the illusion of an infinite outer diameter. Thus each electron is free to flow from source to destination without ever meeting another of its kind. No resistance!

But that's not all it's doing. If left in that state the electrons could simply wander forever around the infinite circumference and never down the wire. So somehow there must be a "squeezing" action - like pushing at the bottom of a full tube of toothpaste. But instead of fluoride gel, it's electron gel.

I suspect somehow this effect is being achieved by using the Earth's magnetic field. The only thing I don't get is how they're doing it without an bipole aerial and a rotating crystal-studded drum.

I believe I have seen the Bipole Aerial and Rotating Crystal-Studded Drum mentioned by Guest #7. Most episodes of LOST IN SPACE, these items are clearly visible as running gear on the character "Robot". Perhaps the Kilowatt Buster would benefit from these futuristic hardware items.

If you visit the website, be certain to review the test methodology and wildly inconclusive results in the "Refrigerator Test".

Balloon Juice. Snake Oil. Baloney. Bull@#&%. When product performance is masked by faulty shady questionable test criteria, it ALWAYS indicates other than truthful results are desired.

Recommendation: NO BUY.

Your BS detector is working well. The "tests" are mind boggling.

In the water heating test, 250ml (a small beaker) of water was heated from 15C to 51C (from cool to warm). This represents a change of 9000 calories, or 10.46 watt hours. So a 100 watt element could heat this water in about 6 minutes. But the "test results" say "Without the Kilowatt Buster™ the heatup time was 12.5 minutes and the kilowatts used were 19.235." 19.235 kilowatts x 12.5 minutes is about 4 kilowatt hours, almost 400 times more heat than required.

Imagine that! A 19.235 kilowatt "hot plate." In the US, hot plates are powered from 120 VAC wall outlets, so this particular outlet would need to be capable of supplying 160 amps, or about 10 times the usual. Beyond absurd.

Of course, the basic idea they are promoting (that reducing resistance reduces power consumption) is incorrect. That would only be true if Ohm's law were reversed.

The energy consumed is the same regardless of the resistance of the conductor providing the power to the load. If the load is less the current consumption also less.

Super conductors would help with the efficiency of the power lines; however the energy consumed is determined by the load beyond the power meter and your end result would always be the same, i.e. one watt required to do the work, then one watt registered on the power meter.

There is a device on the market called "KILL A WATT" that can be used to confirm or dispute such claims. I frequently use one and highly recommend it.

Greetings.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

They probably sell vaporware as well.

Haaahahaha...I'm still chuckling over this.

I just read the corresponding "other site" for their automotive product, the Stynger DC power conditioner. Oh my -

And to think, they are not even in business to make money, they are developing products "to reduce mankinds' ecological impact." Gotta love that altruism...at $199 a pop!

The one and only low-resolution photo provided looks like something for feminine hygiene, without the wings but supposedly of "nano-technological" origin. Nice looking label, though. The insides must be filled with factory-seconds from the local carbon nano-tube factory! And to think, one of these is all you need to get "tangible, instantaneous power increases" and "the fuel savings are immediate." Uh - Wow?

The installation sketch looks like something a high-schooler would make up in marketing class. It shows a sticker on the corner of a battery while directing you to install "on one battery cable." Hehe. It then shows a loose collar around one cable with what could be, I suppose, a couple of pieces of refrigerator magnet inside it. whatever. It should be "as close to the battery as possible (actually touching the battery is best)" huh?

Oh, and apparently "the Stynger works best on the positive cable" with some vehicles, "and on others the negative cable." go figure...

The disclaimer is classic: "Improper positioning, overlapping, or misusing the unit may result in non-operation or unit failure." you think?

I love it...it's only missing the stainless steel cylinder pumping water vapor into the carborator...not that I have any problem with finding ways to use some of that excess electricity off the alternator once the battery is recharged...

But for all of you budding automotive engineering students out there, the cartoon on the home page will give you a nice laugh. Just look at that "Direction of Compression" arrow! They've not only solved our nationwide dependence on foreign oil with a sticker on the battery and some nano-stuff on a pad, they've reversed the operation of the internal combustion engine while making it more efficient!

After all that, I'm sure their $395 KWBuster must be something else, with its awsome ability to align the paths of electrons in AC power...as if they travelled like the graphic at all with a wave phenomena. Hilarious - and I love the "melting furnace" test where they used "16% less KWH per pound metal poured." <snorts and chokes on coffee> Forget the KWBuster, exactly where do you I buy one of those % KWH per pound meters?

No .ru Paypal button link though, so maybe they really are in LA...right next to their walk-in screentest video studio and used lotto ticket resale boutique? Now if only they can find a way to pack that Stynger thing in neoprene so you can put it around your bottled-water while roller-blading, to give you "aligned water molecules" for more energy! wait...let me get the patent on that first...hehe.

Kudos to your detector, and thanks for a good laugh this morning I can pass along to some of my friends.

Sandman:

I'll take yours as a "thumbs down" vote???????? :)

i guess the correct name for this device would be Wallet Buster

They must use a flux capacitor

Blink (#9) would get a GA from me, as well... but, what happened to the [Rate] buttons? <gotta be a browser-issue>

I, myself, would like to query "Tristan", the individual who (under "File", "Properties") "Last Saved" the Excel file that documents the "Test Results" for the copper-melting furnace. The file was "Created On" Sunday April 23, 2006 and "Modified On" Wednesday Nov 19, 2008.

Can't help but wonder; was she paid overtime (10:13pm and 6:44pm, respectively) to help-out, in the context highlighted in THIS THREAD...?

For tests such as those furnished, I would want to see MUCH more documentation. An equally-clean 'pot' for each batch, for starters; same time-of-day/environmental factors being equal; qualities of the raw materials in each batch ~ percentages of sieve-sizes per melt, etc. etc.

Way too many factors for me to even begin to think of 'em all...! Website sure looks green, tho...

Hi:

The old Kilowatt Buster company is no longer in business, However the Google web page is displaying a KIlowatt Buster coments. Could you please remove these coments

people are thinking they are about my company. The Kilowatt Buster 5000.com

is a international company is 163 countries. We custom build a power factor Energy Recyclable Device for each home based on their electrical usage. It does not make sence to leave this coment on the web site when the Kilowatt Buster company is no longer in business. Please remove it today.

Thank You

Edward Perdue

"It does not make sence to leave this coment..." Shame, shame...

Try just a TAD / WEE bit of Spell-Checking, please... BOTH in your "coments" (sic) AND on your website (grammar leaves a bit to be desired as well, as do the links).

The dorkiest-looking "Doh!" is your "Fox News Commentary" link, titled: "DEEL OR DUD", which links to your "HONESTeONLINE" profile...(?)
When the video-box is clicked on, Fox News spelled THEIR version of the question correctly :

{Shame-on-Fox for attempting to help sell such wack-o-ry}!

I shall leave comments regarding your claims [such as the motor that *used* to draw 5.3 amps when running (without the KVAR capacitor), and then, only 1.6 amps WITH the KVAR cap] for others to ... "bombast".

Hello Jerk:

I ask you to remove the old Kilowatt Buster from the site, They went out of business.

My web site has nothing to do with the old kilowatt Buster. The shame is on you

for not answering the question properly. Remove the old kilowatt Buster coments.

No body asked you about the Kilowatt Buster 5000 Kvar unit. Why did you give a reply? I ask you to remove the old kilowatt buster coments because they are a different company and they are out of business. Our Kilowatt Buster 5000 is a custom built capacitor system used to correct the power factor in homes in America based on there electric bills. Every home gits a custom built Energy Recyclable Device that will correct their electric bills.

Last year over 40,000 where installed and with results from 10% up to 52% less kilowatts used to operate motors operating the home. Some of the electric bills where reduced as much as $182.00 in one month. Shame on you for not useing one in your home.

Edward Perdue

Re: "I ask you to remove the old kilowatt buster coments (sic)"

Sorry : I am simply a Spell-Checker and an apprentice Facts-Checker. I am a poster, like yourself, with no power to remove even my OWN posts, let-alone an entire thread.

Now, with regard to:

#1 ~ I am willing to bet that you are attempting to use the past tense of "ask", which is "asked" ... but you don't know THAT any better than the people who pronounce it (or spell it) as "axed".

#2 ~ Sentences in English end with a period (.), NOT a comma.

#3 ~ If you are spelling a proper name, use proper capitalization, please.

#4 ~ Sorry, I missed that it was a question (in your earlier post), since you failed to use a QUESTION MARK (?).

#5 ~ Refer to #3, above.

#6 ~ See "comment" (< link)

#7 ~ "Nobody" is one word (unlike "a lot", which you will frequently see around here as "allot", which has an entirely DIFFERENT meaning).

#8 ~ Refer to #1, above.

#9 ~ Well, you did it RIGHT on the NEXT line...but, it should be "their" here as well.

#10 ~ "gets", not "gits".

#11 ~ "were", not "where".

#12 ~ "using", not "useing" ... and, as a matter of FACT, *I* do not NEED one, thank you very much. Here is the last year's monthly billing (in dollars, on the vertical axis) for my 2000 sq.ft. home, direct from my electric company's website:

Even "Anonymously", GA from me, for following-thru with my "closing" (Post#19).

I'm willing to bet that Mr. Perdue will be making some changes on his website...

http://www.kilowattbuster5000.com/

. . . now that he has gone and tripped face-first into the proverbial quagmire here...!

I can't help but wonder 2 things, now:

1) Whether "Reita K Walls" would ever divulge the TRUTH as to why her bills were lower (assuming the scanned letter was ever real); i.e., did she convert from electric to gas for cooking / hot water / and/or clothes drying?

2) Just HOW "honest-to-goodness-transparently-truthful" is this "HONESTeONLINE" outfit? Or, does IT exist simply to aid in lending some degree of "credence" to such scammers...?

edit: "Also"... did he perchance read THIS CR4 Thread, and interpret the Title to be a "Command"...? !

"1) Whether "Reita K Walls" would ever divulge the TRUTH as to why her bills were lower (assuming the scanned letter was ever real); i.e., did she convert from electric to gas for cooking / hot water / and/or clothes drying?"

Funny you should mention that.

I once lived in Seattle and had an "All Electric House" as advertised in the '50s, when electricity in Seattle was practically free. But when I lived there it no longer was, so when my water heater rusted through, I wanted a gas water heater. The gas company (separate from the electric utility there) said they would not run gas to my house just for a water heater, I had to go gas for at least the central heating. So I did. In the months before this though, I had applied for and received a grant from Seattle City Light to insulate my walls and ceilings at a very low cost through a rebate. After the winter months, Seattle City Light apparently reviewed my use data as a participant in the insulation program, and I became a POSTER BOY for the rousing success of insulating my house because my electric bill went down by over 50%! I actually got my picture in the paper next to an executive of Seattle City Light.

Never told them that I had installed gas heating though... They came through during the photo-op and looked at all my baseboard heaters everywhere, but somehow failed to notice the central heating registers in the floors right next to them. Or maybe they did and assumed they were from an old oil heater, or decided to just leave it alone because it would have been embarrassing. A year later I finally got around to removing the baseboard heaters.

Reita K Walls:

The Kilowatt Buster 5000 saved here up to 52% some months on the electric bills.The before and after bills are concrete proof the power factor device worked.

That proves to me you dummies who claim to know something about Reactive Energy that you need to try a little harder to get out off the 1st grade.

Sorry I realy don't like to talk to people who know nothing about Energy Recyclable Devices as you sir.

Edward Perdue

I have to chime in on this.

Applying "new technology" to a flawed premise does not correct the flaw of the premise. Improving power factor, no matter HOW you get there, will NOT save energy. It is YOU who apparently is in need of "trying a little harder to get out off the 1st grade" with regard to your understanding of Reactive Power and how it relates to actual ENERGY consumption, as in kWh, the ONLY thing that matters to a homeowner. I can accept that this woman BELIEVES that your magic box saved her the money. But as I have said in here many times over, my experience is that when a consumer makes a poor buying decisin, they tend to believe the data that appears to support it rather than suffer the embarassment of realizing they wasted their money when there are much more plausible explanations staring them in the face. There are much more likely reasons why her bill went down 52% (or whatever), the least of which is a simple difference in temperature-days. Ask the HVAC experts, they understrand that concept fully.

As to saving money (as opposed to saving energy), that is also a flawed premise for a residential customer in North America, because residential customers in North America are not penalized for poor power factor (even assuming their PF is poor to begin with).

Despite of the propensity of our politicians to do so, repeating a lie over and over does not make it true.

you are totally stupid....Reita Walls is your wife's maiden name.

Scam was in the past we created a new formula that works based on your hights and lowest electric bills for 2012 this new formula works 100% of the time. The old Power factor never new about the formula so they used a one size fits all capacitor. We just got the formula last year and now we are the only Energy Recycable Device company that is being aproved for the new Hud housing energy saving program. Our products are being used in over 163 countries around the world. I will admit the ERD'S in the past did not work, however today we are moving forward.

Dummies like you need to be sent to some other country.

Edward Perdue

this fool ...is just that.

"The old Kilowatt Buster company is no longer in business, However the Google web page is displaying a KIlowatt Buster coments. Could you please remove these coments

people are thinking they are about my company. The Kilowatt Buster 5000.com"

I think it shows that you did a poor job of researching the name of your company then. That's like me starting a cruise ship company called "Titanic Cruises" and then yelling at everyone that the name Titanic should not be used to descibe a disaster.

Your own fault...

I think we will just have to visit you in the near future. Their is something about you that is not just wright. I would like to see it for my self. You have no proof about our product and you never purchased our ERD. We are light years ahead of most Energy savings companies. Our product in 2013 will be the only Energy Star ERD in the world.

Next we will have our carbon tax credits aproved around the world.

The name of our company was not any one's business and that includes you. Besides j how did you get involved in this conversation about the the two different companies. Who ask for your input and why not remove the old kilowatt buster info it's no good to anyone.

Edward Perdue

Re: "Their is something about you that is not just wright."

"There", not "Their" ... and, "right", not wright".

There is something about *you*, sir, that is "just not right".

You keep coming back for more "Free divulgence" of your SCAM.

I hope-&-pray that everybody searching for http://www.kilowattbuster5000.com/ will find THIS thread, and learn a little-bit before considering a purchase.

Of course, they don't NEED to come *here* to learn the truth. All they need to do is "Search", and ...

Via the website:
Get Smart about Home Energy Scams

the page Kill a Watt Saver - Scam Review

and KVAR KEC - Scam Review

and throughout the rest of the website, prospective 'suckers' will learn the truth by reading statements such as:

"Power factor and power factor correction are indeed subjects that we should be aware of, but it is "near fraud" when excessively marketed to home owners as a way to save money on their electricity bill."

"Commercial companies and industrial users do require power factor correction for the improved reliability of their electrical equipment, to save electricity, and to save on their electrical bill."

and

"For consumers, there is NO charge for power factor inefficiencies. Consumers are charged for the Real Power (Watts) consumed only. ALL products that claim to save money by correcting consumer power factor are being deliberately misleading."

While it may be true that there's a sucker born every minute, that does NOT mean that people like yourself are supposed to devise or 'revise' scams every minute, so as to take advantage of them!