Griffon Hot Pills

once while visiting the Hall of Fames , hockey , baseball, football, wright bros, wright patterson afb, i can't remember where.. i filled up my 94' dodge stealth r/t...maybe just inside nebraska going east...any way.. the octaine was at 96..the performance was , being conservative , 20 % enhanced..avg mp tank.435..that leg got 593..from the average of 92...

i personnaly , have never heard of this product.

imho: the only additive to fuel , for your auto , is octaine rating .

buyer beware..

gl..

Is that a brand name for viagra?

if that last longer than 4 hours , you're alone

http://griffonproducts.com/blank.html

Funny how none of their links work for MSDS reports. In other words, you have no idea what is in their products.

"What do you think about this fuel additive? Is it really so prominent in your country?"

I think it's a scam, and I know few have heard of it here.

Oh, and I couldn't find their company on the EPA list, (quick scan, could have missed it). That EPA list is not a guarantee that the product works. It's there only to show that the products contain approved chemicals.

one sure way: us patents and trademark office, search for either patents or trademarks paperwork...

If they spent as much on their product as they did on their web site it might do something. Otherwise just put it in the scam box with all the others!

Yep, dey sho 'nuff spended lotsa time czechin dey's grammer an spellun. Not two menshun puttin so much wurk into the details of explunashun, as in:

"Mix 1 gallon of Griffon Racing Gasoline Concentrate to 9 gallons of unleaded pump gasoline. This will yield an octane rating of 103 to 105 depending upon the purity of the pump gasoline. Use with unleaded, oxygenated (MTBE) pump gasoline. Will blend with petroleum oils and synthetic lubricants when mixed directed."

and: "Every time you cold start your engine without Griffon Friction-Buster, you are reducing half of your engine's life because metal grinds against metal in a cold start."

anna course, innuh duh U.S. we nowz spelz 'em "POWERFULL" & "CAREFULL" wit too L's instedda won ...

cuz evrting onna duh www sez too due it datta way...!

Scam!

They take advantage of the the "fact" that there is a sucker born every minute.

They make money on the fact that one of those will try one or more of their products.

Using something that boosts octane to over 100 when your engine is designed to run on 87 would be a stupid thing to do. Different octanes explode at different rates and now some cars have controls for allowing you to burn a range of octanes.

Compression ratios play into the octane requirement too.

I had a turbocharged car that had plenty of power using 87 octane at sea level but needed 92 octane for elevations over 5000 feet in order to run the same in the rarer atmosphere.

All I had to do is use the 92 octane pump at the station. No containers full of strange chemical promises in my trunk.

I currently drive a car that only uses synthetic engine oil replaced every 7,000 miles, runs on 89 octane gas, has an automatic transmission that does not require fluid replacement, airbags even for my knees, senses tire spin and controls it by reducing engine output and side slip by reducing engine output and applying one of the front brakes even at highway speeds, designed to cruise at 150 mph, and a bunch of other neat features.

My old car doesn't require a tuneup until 100,000 miles.

In a car still under warrantee, putting strange chemicals in it could loose you money by voiding the warrantee.

Worry free cars and the people who maintain them are cool.

If you want to boost your performance check into a racecar forum.

Most cars have efficiency built into them and only the driver reduces it.

Jon

From BC Canada.

Never heard of it!

But then again, Chevron with Techron is just a bottle of additives thrown into the delivery truck tank.

Techron is a fuel system cleaner.

You buy it and put it in the tank once in a while but you don't need to buy the gas from Mobil or Texaco to benefit.

Never heard of it either.

One first way to get a feel for these things is to check the "Contact Info" - if they only list a PO box (such as this case), and not a physical address - BEWARE. They do this so that you can not show up at their door "asking" for a refund.

Fer sher.

Manitoba Canada here:....Never heard of or seen any advertisments of the product.

From Ontario, Canada

Never heard of it.

I have never heard of "hot pills" myself but I do not add things to my gas either way. With my usually crappy luck I would pick one of the additives that would destroy my engine if I did.

One of the things I find amusing about this particular thread and a number of other questions posed on this forum, similar, which pertain to fuel and oil additives designed to improve performance of an engine?

Why not look to Oklahoma City for the answers. The FAA is probably the only agency that tests and reports on products such as this, that is not politically or financially influenced in their opinions.

If it is not an approved product for use in an aircraft engine-- should tell us something? Stop and think about it-- these guy's will tell you that a 40 weight oil was old- no longer had the viscosity- and caused a bearing failure- that lead to X,Y &Z failure!!

Just My Opinion

OH&W e~store; Looks like a forign site. 45,000RP seems alot to me. I have no Idea how much that converts to in $usd. Personally it looks like a scam. I've seen a ton of things used by backyard mechanics and believe it or not even in the pits. But I haven't seen or herd of this before and would be reluctant to utilize anything solid (granular, disolved solids, suspended solids, etc..) in my feul. There are to many tried and true alternatives out there and probably at about the same price range without the risk. There is alot of money spent on removing solids from your feul system begining at the refineries and ending with the final fuel filter in your vehical. All for very good reason.

From California.

Never heard of it, and agree with the majority... Its almost undoubtedly a scam.

IF such a real 'magic pill' existed, the 'big boys' like Ethyl Corporation, Exxon, Chevron, BP, etc. would be all over it. Just think of the increased price (profit) potential from being able to claim 'our 'premium price' product WILL improve fuel economy by XX%.

This is just another verse of the same old song -'our magic potion will .......'

EPA approval only means the product will not increase emissions or reduce the performance or life expectancy of emission control systems on the vehicles. It says NOTHING about anything else.

I've never heard of it either... I'd put it in the scam box.

it's napthalene or old fashion mothballs.