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Why Are There So Many Types of Oil Filters?

07/13/2009 1:02 PM

Greetings and even though I should maybe know the answer, I don't.

For some years I have wondered why there are so many types (variations) of the oil filters used on auto / truck engines. Not the particular Brand, but the different sizes, configurations, etc. every time a new model rolls out of the factory. Air filters I can understand, as you have way more variables when under the hood design takes place with options, etc....BUT

Why does there have to be so many variables? If you have say a range of 350 CI - 400 CI (OR, 3.5L - 4.0L) why the different sizes between vehicle Mfg'rs.? why would there not be one optimum size/design to satisfy the engine block size requirements?

Is it:

a) volume required, or amount of filter media

b) inflow for line pressure (not all screw studs are the same on engine blocks)

c) Different Day / Different Engineer

d) these filter companies need to take up a lot of shelf space?

So, anyone in the know about this - what initiates the design of a new oil filter?

TIA & good day!

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Re: Stupid Question? - Why do oil filters flourish?

07/13/2009 1:11 PM

engine size, bearing clearance , physical clearance, operating pressure, operating volume, type of fuel, and many others. And," Different Day / Different Engineer" could always be in play.

I want to know why they can't design a bracket onto the engine so that the filter is open end UP, not on the side. I still have one SB Chevy engine. It's painless to change the filter on it. Except it's low to the ground.

I'm not a mechanic. Maybe bobc, or one of the other real wrenches will have more.

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Re: Stupid Question? - Why do oil filters flourish?

07/13/2009 5:01 PM

They do that so you will take it to a service mechanic to get it changed. If they made it sensible to many would change it themselves. Most or all early model cars had filter that where open end up. You could get it unscrewed and set it down with out spill barely a drop. That and the fact they are trying to stuff more equipment in to less space.

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Re: Stupid Question? - Why do oil filters flourish?

07/13/2009 2:03 PM

I may be wrong, but It seems to me that there are a set of "Standard" oil filter models offered by all the manufacturers. Yes there are probably more models than needs to be, as It could probably be narrowed down to 5 or 6 standard filters.

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Re: Stupid Question? - Why do oil filters flourish?

07/13/2009 3:03 PM

As an old mechanic and service station owner, I can say that there were once a lot fewer.

I can only imagine that there's an insidious plot to make people who own expensive cars use disposable parts, such as oil filters, which are not produced in sufficient quantities that manufacturers and suppliers can offer them at low prices.

Meanwhile, until the secret societies are exposed as the villians they are, we peons must deal with it.

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07/13/2009 3:31 PM

Its not just oil filters. I get a giggle out of these new "modular" engines they came up with in the last decade. New I idea Indeed.

My 1952 international pickup shares the same engine block and 90% of its components with numerous tractors, combines, swathers, and numerous pieces of industrial equipment. It also has the same basic oil filter for most of them. The water pump went out on it some years ago and I just went and got one off an old swather, combine or tractor mystery engine that was in the junk yard.

I was recently at the John Deere engine plant in Waterloo Iowa and the said they only make 5 or 6 basic engines there. BUT the have around 1000+ different combinations they can make them in. What happened to the days when they made 5 basic engines that fit over 1000 different machines!

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07/13/2009 3:36 PM

"My 1952 international pickup"

Lucky dude - I used to have a '72 Camper Special long-bed...dang I miss that truck - had a cab size bigger than any Peterbuilt ever thought of making...

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Re: Why Are There So Many Types of Oil Filters?

07/13/2009 5:38 PM

A good number of them are indeed interchangeable. Here in Brazil, several manufacturers do manufacture a reduced number of models that are able to support several different engine models. Some variations you will observe, however, include different bypass pressure adjsutments (or not). Some variations adjust to the available space under the engine hood. Who nows exactly? Go and set a business to manufacture oil filters you too... Rgds.

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07/13/2009 11:59 PM

As you may have noticed the size of the oil filters has gradually decreased over several decades. In the 1960s & 70s many oil filters had an internal capacity of nearly 1 quart; most filters today have less than half that capacity. And oil change intervals are longer, frequently > 7,500 miles. I suspect there are several reasons for these changes (but I hope that a tribologist or filter engineer will comment.). The new synthetic or partially synthetic media (comprised of cellulose plus synthetic fiber) is more efficient than the older media which was comprised of treated paper and modern media will capture smaller particles > 10 microns for the high efficiency Mobil 1 and Pure 1 filters. In addition motor oil is significantly better today with a vastly better additive package that will hold more dirt in suspension so there is less to be filtered out by the oil filter. In modern auto engines, fuel injection and electronic computer controlled ignition is virtually universal and therefore the engines burn cleaner and fewer combustion byproducts get into the oil. Lastly, the auto manufacturers are always looking for a way to reduce costs and a smaller oil filter is cheaper to make because it contains less material.

However, one important question is why don't auto manufacturers offer bypass oil filters that will take out particles down to 1 micron in addition to the universal full flow filters. That would lengthen the life of engines by at least 2X. Bypass filters are universal on large truck, industrial, off road and marine engines.

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07/14/2009 10:49 AM

Through the years, my family has owned a lot of ford pickups. I haven't looked at any that are brand new, but all of them I have changed the oil in (except the 1 ton diesel) have had the same filter. Some of these trucks were inline 6's some were v-8's some v 6's... for what it's worth, one exception to the rule...

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07/14/2009 7:37 PM

Ford fixed that. Now they have a different filter for each engine. Its only by accident that two different engines will share a common interchangeable filter now.

I remember the good old days when the Motorcraft FL-1A was the only ford filter we had on the farm. Even with 12 different vehicles and 7 different engines!

Now I have 4 Fords and 4 filters.

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Re: Why Are There So Many Types of Oil Filters?

07/14/2009 12:18 PM

My first thought was to keep an industry going through having to provide as many different designs as possible and make more money off the consumer. On second thought, an oil filter is a disposable item and it doesn't really matter if there is a one-size-fits-all design or many different sizes. It still needs to be changed periodically. I'm sure the eye towards profit is always present, but is not the biggest factor.

You might also ask, why does a tail light lens for a Cadillac cost so much more than one for a Chevy. It's all the same plastic.

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Re: Why Are There So Many Types of Oil Filters?

07/30/2009 1:52 PM

I could be making stuff up here, but ...

There are a variety of factors at play... The oil filter's operating specs are determined by the mechanical needs of the engine. It's physical specs will be impacted by it's location on the engine, and what space is available in the engine compartment. As most modern cars are designed with 'maximum efficiency' in mind there is little flexibility, a design may call for filter specs that are readily available in a number of designs, but if you can't make any of them fit in the engine compartment you'll have to make a new one... or redesign the engine or the engine compartment which is not going to happen because they have way to much money invested in the design by the time they figure out they can't get a filter in there... A related issue is the use of Metric vs. SAE or Metric AND SAE hardware... My Jeep has a combination of both, because it was cheaper (probably by a few cents) to use mixed hardware... I don't know why, you'll have to find a bean counter to explain the logic...

It used to be that designers would just make a large enough engine compartment that you could practically climb in and work on the engine, leaving plenty of room for the designer to just stick things like oil filters wherever they felt like; now you need a team of fairies or gnomes if you want to get a mechanic in the engine compartment and there is no room for anything that wasn't painstakingly planned into the design.

My belief is that this is a result of manufacturers caterering to the image driven desires of consumers (who should NEVER be catered to because they don't know anything) so that the aesthetic features of the vehicle are designed first and then some poor S.O.B. engineer has to come behind and make a working engine fit into the left over space...

Personally I think it should be the other way around, give the engineers first crack, let them design the mechanical features of the car first and then pass it off to the aesthetics design team so they can prissify the parts that don't matter in the long run... Does it really matter that your car has 'great lines' if it costs you extra in the long run because the engineering team had to compromise their design because the body has to be shaped 'just so...' You can put a Porsche body on a Yugo chassis... it's still gonna be a Yugo!

But then, I could just be making stuff up...

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