Car Accident Alarm System

GM is currently doing this with the OnStar system.

http://www.onstar.com/us_english/jsp/explore/onstar_basics/technology.jsp

this is correct, but you have to subscribe to have this option in GM motors. Our project don't need to have membership, its free ....

now, do you have any idea and what kind of SARD board we need or which GSM module we have to use ??

Thanks for you comment

Just curious...what do the police think of these ideas? I'm confident they aren't supportive...and will largely ignore such reports. Any thoughts?

Mercedes already has this

So... let me get this straight... some anally retentive safety "expert" who works for an automobile manufacturer will decide the limiting values for the operating parameters (acceleration, etc) I'm allowed to apply to *my* car that I paid tens of thousands of dollars of *my* money for... and if I drive the car outside that envelope the *car* will call the police!??!?!

How crazy do you have to be to think this is a good idea?

Our guest is correct. The first step in creation of a controlled society rests within the assumption that the police or other authorities are endowed with unmitigated purism, honesty, and the will to do right. In actuality, nothing could be further from the truth. Those who forget history are bound to repeat its mistakes.

Bernie Katz

I am not familiar with your "SARD" board, but a few points of advice: First, location - are you in the U.S. or where? Since cell phone coverage is not continuous throughout the U.S., satellite may be a better idea (like OnStar). Sensor to activate - I like the air bag because they have a pretty stringent criteria for deployment, so if they do deploy it is a pretty safe bet that the car has been involved in an accident, at least above 5 mph. There may be no injuries, but there is likely damage to a vehicle requiring a police report anyway. Hope this helps.

I agree. An air bag based alarm trigger probably would not spawn false alarms either.

I must be missing something, why would the Police be against such a system? Why would anyone be against such a system?

As pointed out already, some manufacturers already have it installed.....

The German ADAC (equivalent to the British AA or US AAA) have a mobile phone that provided you can press the button, will send the accident services to your phones present location.

Its a good idea I feel.

Andy:

The police will be wary of such a system because of the likelihood that false alarms will waste their time.

Private citizens should resist it because of its potential, with only slight modifications, to take away freedom and privacy.

Same goes for GPS in cars and cell phones.

Same goes for computers that won't work without an internet connection.

Same goes for video cameras at street corners.

Same goes for restrictions on moving money.

Same goes for allowing the police to carry guns when the rest of us may not.

Same goes for waiving due process for *suspected* terrorists.

All of these measures are supposed to be "for our own good," but they are abused more and more every day. If we allow such trends to continue, we will soon wake up to find the whole world in "protective" custody. For our own safety, of course. Welcome to the borg.

To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, those who trade their freedom for safety will soon find that they have neither freedom nor safety!

Berniek seems to be the only one on this forum who understands that.

Seems like everyone else on here is perfectly content to design the chains that will enslave them. All for the sake of safety, of course. Maybe that borg guy was right... resistance is futile.

As you can read, this system is already there. You do not have to buy it, but you might be a little upset if your nearest and dearest have an accident and do not get any help in anyway.......and you actively turned down such a system!!

If it was offered on a car I was buying, I would most probably take it, I already have the ADAC equivalent!

Yaaas, Aaaand....

If the reporting sensor is triggered only in the case of accident, as was originally suggested, then it stands to reason you really DO want the constabulary and any other emergency services you can get to attend.

I really like the idea of the airbag deployment triggering the call. The worse case scenario in terms of non-usefulness of that system might be that some jerk runs into your bumper while you aren't there.

Mark

...in any good car, when parked, the airbag will not deploy......!

I have bought for this reason a US Scytek car alarm (Vision Guard 6000) from ebay Germany. RRP in the US is $999,00, but it gets offered for between $350 and $550 in the USA. Not normally available in europe I believe. It has a built in digital colour camera (for day or night operation) that takes pictures and sends them to the remote control.

Then if you are lucky, the other car will be pictured.....or the driver....up to 12 pictures are made if your car gets jogged or a door opened or glass broken!!

I will get mine installed in the next couple of weeks - big job!! Remote Engine cutout, remote start.........and more.

Andy

(Bit of a sociological blotch on an engineering website.)

It's a terrible price to pay for the downhill slide of society into sleaze and lack of conscience when you feel the necessity to provide yourself with a camera at some personal expense to catch folks who probably have no intention of reimbursing you for the damage they impose on your personal possessions. In real life (in most neighbourhoods), things are probably not that bad at the level of one's car, but multiplied by the numbers of offending individuals in society at large, is it any wonder that we feel the need to protect ourselves against them by installing public cameras?

Until society can get back on track, let's not blame big brother for the outrageous security systems. Let's put the blame where it belongs...on those whose callow behaviour expresses itself in doing damage to others. When big brother uses those excuses that agree with my own sentiments, I have trouble blaming him for it, even though I know he will abuse the privilege over time. What alternatives do either of us have?

Mark

Hi Jas,

As I know this concept already exists - I`ve picked it up about a year ago. I`m not sure but I think it was from BOSCH; you better look for patent complience before you start.
Good luck ! Uwe

Lest we Forget? How many home & business owners have their premises well-alarmed with direct connections to monitoring panels (often manned) and when the alarm is triggered, the authorities may respond or may not- If they do, it's often to deliver a summons for triggering a false alarm-
Good luck with automatically calling the authorities for auto collisions-

I have worked as a development engineer for this since year 2000 at Autoliv in Sweden. There are several vehicles builder who has is as a choice.

Anders

Does SAAB use an OnStar based system? Just curious because of GM.

try to contact this guy. he has done a gsm car alarm before.

Bryan Ng [bits.stream@hotmail.com]