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Cleaning Lime Deposits on Air Cooled Condensers

04/17/2010 10:49 AM

Any suggestions for chemicals or methods of removing lime deposits off air cooled
condensers as a result of spraying city water on 15 outdoor condensers on
2 to 10 hp refrigeration on the ground and 5 rooftop package units on a metal roof
approx 20 years?

PVC water lines with spray heads were ran to each unit on the whole job
I assume to lower head pressures for an end result of a lower electric bill which I'm sure was a temporary benefit until the condensers turned into a big block of water deposits

Power washing and non acid alki type foaming cleaners have been some help
but not impressive for the amount of labor costs and chemical costs and equipment
replacement is not an option and chemicals on a metal roof is another no no
Vinegar and lime remover also didn't do much

Is there any ultra-sound generating equipment made that would make this lime
deposit break up and flake off without damage to the aluminum fins and copper tubes?

Any suggestions?

Thanks
John

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Re: Cleaning lime deposits on air cooled condensors

04/17/2010 11:17 AM

Can you take the units to be cleaned out of service, one or two at a time?

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Re: Cleaning lime deposits on air cooled condensors

04/17/2010 11:21 AM

Never used it, but I've read some about blasting things with dry ice to clean them up. That process leaves no residue.

Or :I have hired people with baking soda blasters to remove graffiti from delicate surfaces. But then, you have soda residue to deal with.

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Re: Cleaning Lime Deposits on Air Cooled Condensers

04/17/2010 10:51 PM

I'm going to shoot from the hip on this one, so let's see. The problem came from water loaded with calcium and stuff, and it had a certain ph. The deposits stuck when the water evaporated.

Water can be softened, made agressive, or downright etching. As far as I know, it's the ph that matters. We have water down here eating copper pipes right up. I would look into what changes the ph so the water you are spraying actually eats lime. It might be as simple as ozonation, chlorinating, or adding some chemical to the water.

To say the least, the city water is going to have to be pre-treated to get rid of the lime.

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Re: Cleaning Lime Deposits on Air Cooled Condensers

04/18/2010 5:34 AM

I use a Descaler bought at the local supermarket for dolomite scale buildup. It is a mild acid and mixed at 10% to 30% depending in the appearance.

I dont't know what acid it is but it is sold under the registered trade name of calciclean.

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Re: Cleaning Lime Deposits on Air Cooled Condensers

04/18/2010 9:20 AM

There are two products that I have used , and they both worked well.

1. Lime Away

2. CLR

Haven't used them on outdoor condensers, but they are available at Walmart and other supermarket stores.

By the way I believe CLR stands for calcium, lime & rust.

Water high in calcium content leaves deposits on tubs, showers etc., and that was one of the main reasons I have used those products.

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Re: Cleaning Lime Deposits on Air Cooled Condensers

04/18/2010 8:08 PM

After 20 years,the deposits are probably the only thing holding the coils together.

Have you treated/removed the washdown water to prevent furthur buildup?

What I'm hinting at is this is likely a lost cause.

Does the equipment operate? Perform it's designed purpose? Undersized? Working against designed or introduced (read that remodel) flaws in the HVAC system?

If your not chasing your tail,develop & perform a regular delime procedure.EG: once a month treat the coils to a CLR bath (or mild acid),protect your roof as required-pre/post washdown-damming the runoff etc.

HTH

AB1 out.

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Re: Cleaning Lime Deposits on Air Cooled Condensers

04/19/2010 12:57 AM

The following options can be tested on a small scale level and proceeded for bulk based, on effectiveness and availability.

1] Acetic/ formic acid + sodium hypochlorite mixture.

2] Possible diluted solution of acidic toilet cleaners

3]salicylic acid, monochloro acetic or acetic acid / phosphoric acid mixtures

Soak the plates in a dilute solution of EDTA + detergent solution for improved surface reactivity.

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Re: Cleaning Lime Deposits on Air Cooled Condensers

07/21/2010 1:11 AM

Hi,

I see on the Calciclean website there is a mining divission that might offer a solution!

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