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Power Generation Dynamo Driven Only by Magnets

06/22/2010 7:12 AM

With green energy being subject of every day life, I am looking for a DYNAMO FOR POWER GENERATION DRIVEN ONLY BY POWERFUL MAGNETS that can supply power to the main power grid in a town, city.......

Does such a product exist? If yea can some one help me find the manufacturers / suppliers?

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Re: Power Generation Dynamo driven only by Magnets

06/22/2010 7:20 AM

Does such a product exist?
No it doesn't, you can't get free energy.
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06/22/2010 7:30 AM

I understand there is no free energy but how if the router is rotated by positive and negative magnet

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06/22/2010 7:35 AM

And who is going to rotate those magnets? That's thr trouble - it's turtles all the way down.

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06/22/2010 9:35 AM

Yes there are plenty of generators like that using big rare earth magnets, the need the wind to turn them, or a water wheel, or a motor.
they won't turn themselves.
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06/22/2010 12:05 PM

Yes, yes of course. This is all obviously very well-known. No need to belittle our intellegence.

BUT...if you incoroprate a really rare Earth element into the mix, who's to say over-unity isn't possible or even a certainy? A power source that's truly never been tried before. Something along the lines of a unicorn or maybe a gryphon, for example.

Yeah. Didn't think of that, did you? Who's the crackpot now, eh?

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06/22/2010 12:21 PM

Quick - someone throw in the Laws of Thermodynamics before Admin closes the thread!

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06/23/2010 1:11 AM

I don't know if a single page would have enough mass.

But maybe if you engrave them on a magnet.....

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06/22/2010 1:08 PM

<...can't get free energy...>

Well, not without bypassing the electricity meter, anyway.......

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06/22/2010 7:38 AM

Usally the term Dynamo is related to DC whereas city power is AC. Also any magnet(s) by themselves are incapable to generate any electricity. Better advice to you is that put a water bucket on the surface of Sun to get free instant steam to run your enviornmental friendly alternators for suply to the city supply grid.

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06/22/2010 8:28 AM

All teasing aside (and I don't know why I'm being so generous today). your idea is not new, just impossible. Magnets can theoretically make things turn, but the energy they use in doing so will always be more than anything they can produce from it. When a "dynamo" (as you put it) generates electricity, it is meeting a magneto-motive force that is attempting to slow it down. If the original motion itself was the result of magneto-motive force as well, there is no way it can produce more energy than it took to make it move! That would be called "over unity" power generation and despite the tin-foil-hat crowd that believes in it (and faeries), it is in violation of the laws of physics. SOMETHING has to input energy into the equation.

Falling water is a very common clean form of indirect solar energy that can spin the magnets, as is wind. But unfortunately for the planet, neither of those can supply any more than a small fraction of what we humans now demand. We need the input of steam to spin the turbines connected to our generators. Steam comes from burning fossil fuels or nuclear fission for the most part right now.

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06/22/2010 12:27 PM

I believe that there may be several Chinese manufacturers who will be willing to help you part with some money. If you run a Google search, you should find some references to a Chinese made Flux generator that is increasingly becoming popular with small rural towns in the Yangshe Province.

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06/22/2010 10:46 PM

This has been suppressed, Management of CR4 has given your details to the enforcement arm of the Second Law, and you will be sentenced to death by entropic synergy if you do not go quietly...

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06/23/2010 12:41 AM

OH no! not him!

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06/22/2010 10:57 PM

There is definitely a business opportunity here, since if such a device did exist it could be very widely used.

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06/22/2010 11:41 PM

I thought we scared all these people away. I do so miss toying with them...

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06/23/2010 12:23 AM

certainly brings a smile to my dial everytime

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06/23/2010 1:50 AM

I think there is no existense of free energy but you can transform the energy

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06/23/2010 1:51 AM

The OP describes a system "driven only by magnets." One should look further to see what is driving the magnets....

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06/23/2010 4:46 AM

I would like to thank all the Jesters for keeping up the spirit. I am confident while the jesting is going on the very same jesters are running around to figure our the equation to credit themselves, just like the ones who denied the TV, the mobile phone etc. of their existence.

Best of luck!

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06/23/2010 6:07 AM

If you are not experimenting with "perperuum mobile", see such generator at http://izumi.si

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06/23/2010 8:56 AM

Look up the LUTEC company out of Australia. They present themselves & their product very well as the providers of the first commercially available (free) energy company. There are some domestic products that could use some support as well(Google 'free energy generators'). Their product/generator runs on available AC but produces 80% more than it consumes. On another matter - (& as one contributor alluded to) You people who I might describe as 'fuddy-duddies'. Nay-sayers to the N'th degree. More than anything zealots for slamming the door on every idea they couldn't understand. Some of you cats are very sharp - but if you knew as much as you pretended to we wouldn't have an energy problem now - Would we? Carlos

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06/23/2010 9:14 AM

Oh Really?

is there any credible data?

no door slamming, just the requirement of reality not faith & conjecture...

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06/23/2010 10:18 AM

The Lutec website provides insufficient detail for analysis. The descriptions and papers are full of vague, generic comments. Proof that the system works is that one was built 'by others' to specifications provided by Lutec. There is no indication of who these 'others' were, and there are no statements from the (supposedly) independent entity.

As for today's energy problems, they have very little to do with engineering, and EVERYTHING to do with politics, greed & personal power. This is very similar to the world's hunger problems, which likewise have little to do with farming.

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06/23/2010 10:30 AM

Lutec no longer exists. See here

These companies only last as long as the gullible investor's money does.

It is not the lack of knowledge or understanding that makes us nay-sayers. It is knowledge and understanding that makes us understand how the world works, and why these schemes never will work

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06/23/2010 12:51 PM

"Knowledge & understanding" are not static criteria. Within your own body there is so much mysterious stuff going on. All around you right at this very moment there are mechanisms in play you can never begin to understand. Most liquids when frozen become heavier, why is it that water becomes lighter? Good thing because our world would no longer exist as we know it. (I say 'why' & not 'how' because I already know 'how'.) How does the moon stay in synchronous rotation with the earth with its dark side forever in the shadows? How do cuttle fish create their waves of color over there skin or how do plants & animals make food energy out of boiling toxic volcanic plumes deep in the ocean? Any real scientist has had to confess that every discovery only leads to more questions. Thanks Carlos

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06/23/2010 1:39 PM

Every discovery leads to more questions... Yes, this will never finish. We are tankful that it is so otherwise we will get bored....!

But Utopia only exists in your dreams. You can dream of anything you like but until you prove that a Utopia can exist, just keep on dreaming and work on it...

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06/27/2010 11:30 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG9chgbbweQ&NR=1

I have heard of 3 now. this is the only one that had video. the first was a scientist named "Johnson". from the 1970's. Johnson's seemed impossible to duplicate

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06/28/2010 1:36 AM

Is anyone really gullible enough to believe that? Search for the hidden wire, pressurized gas cylinder, or something. Or see the investor lawsuits or fraud charges later on.

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06/28/2010 6:10 PM

It's been a while since I posted John Baez's crackpot index, so here:

The Crackpot Index

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A simple method for rating potentially revolutionary contributions to physics:

  1. A -5 point starting credit.
  2. 1 point for every statement that is widely agreed on to be false.
  3. 2 points for every statement that is clearly vacuous.
  4. 3 points for every statement that is logically inconsistent.
  5. 5 points for each such statement that is adhered to despite careful correction.
  6. 5 points for using a thought experiment that contradicts the results of a widely accepted real experiment.
  7. 5 points for each word in all capital letters (except for those with defective keyboards).
  8. 5 points for each mention of "Einstien", "Hawkins" or "Feynmann".
  9. 10 points for each claim that quantum mechanics is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence).
  10. 10 points for pointing out that you have gone to school, as if this were evidence of sanity.
  11. 10 points for beginning the description of your theory by saying how long you have been working on it. (10 more for emphasizing that you worked on your own.)
  12. 10 points for mailing your theory to someone you don't know personally and asking them not to tell anyone else about it, for fear that your ideas will be stolen.
  13. 10 points for offering prize money to anyone who proves and/or finds any flaws in your theory.
  14. 10 points for each new term you invent and use without properly defining it.
  15. 10 points for each statement along the lines of "I'm not good at math, but my theory is conceptually right, so all I need is for someone to express it in terms of equations".
  16. 10 points for arguing that a current well-established theory is "only a theory", as if this were somehow a point against it.
  17. 10 points for arguing that while a current well-established theory predicts phenomena correctly, it doesn't explain "why" they occur, or fails to provide a "mechanism".
  18. 10 points for each favorable comparison of yourself to Einstein, or claim that special or general relativity are fundamentally misguided (without good evidence).
  19. 10 points for claiming that your work is on the cutting edge of a "paradigm shift".
  20. 20 points for emailing me and complaining about the crackpot index. (E.g., saying that it "suppresses original thinkers" or saying that I misspelled "Einstein" in item 8.)
  21. 20 points for suggesting that you deserve a Nobel prize.
  22. 20 points for each favorable comparison of yourself to Newton or claim that classical mechanics is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence).
  23. 20 points for every use of science fiction works or myths as if they were fact.
  24. 20 points for defending yourself by bringing up (real or imagined) ridicule accorded to your past theories.
  25. 20 points for naming something after yourself. (E.g., talking about the "The Evans Field Equation" when your name happens to be Evans.)
  26. 20 points for talking about how great your theory is, but never actually explaining it.
  27. 20 points for each use of the phrase "hidebound reactionary".
  28. 20 points for each use of the phrase "self-appointed defender of the orthodoxy".
  29. 30 points for suggesting that a famous figure secretly disbelieved in a theory which he or she publicly supported. (E.g., that Feynman was a closet opponent of special relativity, as deduced by reading between the lines in his freshman physics textbooks.)
  30. 30 points for suggesting that Einstein, in his later years, was groping his way towards the ideas you now advocate.
  31. 30 points for claiming that your theories were developed by an extraterrestrial civilization (without good evidence).
  32. 30 points for allusions to a delay in your work while you spent time in an asylum, or references to the psychiatrist who tried to talk you out of your theory.
  33. 40 points for comparing those who argue against your ideas to Nazis, stormtroopers, or brownshirts.
  34. 40 points for claiming that the "scientific establishment" is engaged in a "conspiracy" to prevent your work from gaining its well-deserved fame, or suchlike.
  35. 40 points for comparing yourself to Galileo, suggesting that a modern-day Inquisition is hard at work on your case, and so on.
  36. 40 points for claiming that when your theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the sham it truly is. (30 more points for fantasizing about show trials in which scientists who mocked your theories will be forced to recant.)
  37. 50 points for claiming you have a revolutionary theory but giving no concrete testable predictions.
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06/28/2010 11:46 PM

You should do it more often. GA

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