The Perendev Magnetic Motor

-e,

"Round and round it goes ..... where it stops only the perper knows."

Watt for watt, an immersed resistance heater will boil water so much faster than a magnetron it will make your head spin at much higher revs than zegfredgrummin's Tesla turbine.

Regards, Greg

To get better heating efficiency than a resistance heater you'd need something that had...OMG!...greater-than-unity heating power: A Perpolator! (basket, filter and coffee sold separately. Void where prohibited, taxed, or inspected carefully by informed skeptics.)

-e

Getting a small veined turbine is almost impossible. A disc turbine is my only hope unless id rather seperate oil in a piston engine. A disc drive is way to small .Im sure I can machine as good as they did around 1910.

We as a global comunity are going to have address the global warming soon. I saw the Gore video and he didn't cover all the stuff he could have.

If not a one way or another we will eather, have to come up with a new power source. or just shut everything down. The status quo is going to kill us.

Unfortunately, humans have always been crisis motivated. That is why some of the biggest technological advances have come during war times, sad but true. Until we can't keep up the status quo most are reticent to leave the comfort of their couch to do something perceived as unnecessary. Although I wish it were not the case, I would have to say that the sooner we can precipitate a crisis the sooner we will use the amazing resourcefulness of the human mind to resolve it. So I am doing my part by driving a V8 Lexus that gets 15 miles to the gallon, mostly because I need to get there 5 seconds sooner. It's not that I don't believe we need to change but I don't believe we will until we have to. Especially if it affects the profits of the concerns that are part of and influencing governmental actions. So here's an idea, come up with a solution that the fat cats can use to extract loads of cash from the masses and that also is good for the environment. I guarantee it will be on the market so fast it will make your head spin.

So it was you I whizzed by in my Honda Civic Hybrid! (You were at the station filling your tank. Again.)

hehehe

-e

Zeg laments: "Getting a small veined turbine is almost impossible."

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28lbf @ 112000rpm All up weight 22kg (including fuel and excluding rider). Top speed achieved more than 80kph:

Any questions?

-e

Now I really like to go fast but somehow 80kph on a bicycle just seems like suicide. But it is definitely tempting.

Nobody says you have to go 80 kph on this rig, anymore than you have to go 60 kph in your Lexus (hehehe). But you're right, it is tantalizing...

-e

Uhm, europium?

Did that thing suck the pants off the guy who was riding it? That turbine is awfully close to the rider's read end.

Methane is a greenhouse gas. The placement is deliberate: emissions control.

Or, if you saw Fight Club, think "autoliposuction." Just lease it to some corn-fed hefties and sell the product back to them in the form of premium glycerine soap. Everyone wins.

-e

Ohh, you mean it's like that substance that dragsters or race cars use to increase their engine power? Gives them a burst of speed? Now, I get it!

That explains the lack of a cover on the engine controls. It flew right off!

Vulcan logically infers: "That explains the lack of a cover on the engine controls. It flew right off!"

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Yes, and I'm sorry for neglecting to mention that this thingie also does tummy tucks.

-e

"Any questions.."

Yes. Is your life insurance policy paid up?

sir iam anies.myself doing be mechanical in chennai.

i wan t to know how it is work.............

i have one project.that is the cycle can run without fuel& electric energy...

it is possible ........ want u r help ...i want know that is turbine technology

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Zeg says: "A disc drive is way to small"

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Too small for what? Too small for a proof-of-concept machine with which you can work out the bugs? You can scale-up later. Bigger doesn't mean better.

-e

Could you talk to my last girlfriend and explain that to her?

You mean like when they say "a true craftsman isn't limited by his tools," or something like that?

Obviously, whomever came up with that ludicrous piece of crock never tried to sculpt a Mount Rushmore with an x-acto knife. I find that a turbocharged mojo woiks much better.

-e

I just figure some women are able to appreciate "a true craftsman" and others just want a caveman with a big hammer.

Picasso always used to say, "It's not the size of your paintbrush, it's how you paint." He obviously did not work in the home improvement business.

I like that little turbine engine. Gives me an idea for a flying machine

Hang on tight!

How about enough fuel to rocket upward for 15 seconds or so, at which point you drop the jet pack, pop a chute and drift back down. Sign me up for a ride.

I'll take a dozen, but set the timer to five minutes and nix the 'chutes. For my ex-in-laws, you understand.

-e

They are on the way. Since you were one of the first 25 callers, we have included 12 sets of handcuffs for free. Not as much fun to watch if your riders can let go prematurely.

Ken graciously includes "12 sets of handcuffs for free."

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That means all twelve of them will each be dangling by one wrist...

Kewl!!!

-e

OOps--design flaw.

There. Now the turbines wont flip around making for a REALLY wild ride.

Free handcuffs? Yeah, good idea.

Are we getting off topic?

Re handcuffs: I was thinking of stringing them from wrist to wrist, with the chain passing over the out-of-control bar... but one-handed might be more of a thrill. (I think we'd want to read the OSHA ergonomics rules, however. We would not want to over stress anyone's shoulder.) Another interesting possibility would be to put them on ankles, enabling feet-first flight. Sure cure for a runny nose.

I think you've got something there. Quick, call the producers of '24'

-e

Genttlemen , I have had sucess with many of my previous projects. Give me credit for being brave enough to try. Afterall it didn't cost you anything.

And you must also allow us to form our own opinion of what constitutes success. If you spin something up to a certain speed by external means and it eventually slows down and stops we may not have the same opinion about whether that constitutes a success. Also, disclosure is an issue. Anyone can say they did something. I have flown without any apparatus whatsoever. Oh, did I fail to disclose that it was in a dream last night while I slept? Good intentions do not excuse bad science and bad science is at the core of most presumed but ultimately completely infeasible "successes". From what I can tell the only thing the Perendev motor has been successful at is bilking investors out of money. You are welcome to participate in this forum but you must understand that there are many here who will be pointing out what appear to be shortcomings in your methods and although that may not be the most comfortable situation for you, consider that the alternative will be to discover your own shortcomings and lack of knowledge through trial and error which though it may be a brave endeavor it may be the longer road to the success you seek and it may entail a lot of short roads that lead to dead ends. Trust me, I once convinced myself, a PHD and a mechanical engineer that I had figured a way to generate thrust from electric current. On the surface it appeared quit plausible sans one minor law of physics of which I was ignorant. A week later when the simple, and built for less than $100 worth of parts model displayed not even the slightest inclination to conform to my expectations, a little more digging in the books divulged the answer. It was in the fifth text I checked and none of the first four. So be brave yes but know that none of us are immune from our own ignorance. The hardest thing to overcome is when there is something you don't know and don't know to look for that can prevent your success. I was sure my idea wouldn't work from the start but not lucky enough to find someone who knew enough more than myself to point to the reason why. I was smart enough to keep the scale small so that instead of a huge loss it became a $100 lesson in physics. So it was a success in that I learned something and at an affordable price. Don't be discouraged but get a clue and be open to others comments even if it isn't what you want to hear.

Well said. Both of you.

-e

Talk. Talk Talk. were going in circles.
Im not one to spin my wheels. Show me the math.or stop kickin my tires, Is the heat output greater than the voltage requirements to mantain 100 lbs psi.

Zegfredgrummin,

"Im not one to spin my wheels. Show me the math."

Besides displaying endless ignorance, you are lazy as well.

Do your own math.

"Is the heat output greater than the voltage requirements to mantain 100 lbs psi."

That question makes no more sense than any of your other posts, and probably less. Voltage by itself is no indicator of heat output, and likewise 100 psi by itself, with no reference to volume of steam produced is also meaningless. That you haven't invested the time to even minimally educate yourself, and don't understand even in the most basic terms what you are talking about amply demonstrates that you are very happy to keep wasting our time.

Greg

If you notice my avitar that is just ONE of the many projects I have built from scratch In my spare time.I work 12 swing as a autocoro teck. Im trying to save time by seaking experts . You should be flatter?. I see now just one more thing thats wrong with the world. , Don't mind me If I start looking elsewere. Starting witH Jay Carter. if he is still alive. I will thank you for your time and trouble and id you a fare well.

Bye now,

Have a good one.

Think I'll lurk at www.americanantigravity.com just to watch the ripples...

Yes a persistent fool is a stupid fool, but they never learn.

"Im trying to save time by seaking experts . You should be flatter?. I see now just one more thing thats wrong with the world. , Don't mind me If I start looking elsewere. Starting witH Jay Carter."

Isn't that funny? From where I sit, I now see one less thing wrong with the world!

Speaking of the world, what in the world does an auto-gyro have to do with any of your proposals?

(Except that maybe he has been working on it for 10 yrs, crashed 8 times and his investors are becoming skeptical.)

Greg

"You should be flatter?" Dude, I work out 5 times a week, but I guess I could be "flatter" but "flatter" than what?

Greg,

Your'e so noisy...

As well as so lurky!

Here's the math:

• Let a equal b such that a and b are any two non-zero quantities a = b
• Multiply by a a² = ab
• Subtract b² a² − b² = ab − b²
• Factor both sides (a − b)(a + b) = b(a − b)
• Divide by (a - b) a + b = b
• Subtract b from both sides a + b − b = b − b
• As + b − b cancels out and b − b is zero, a = 0

Q.E.D.

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Kicking a tire inflated to 100 psi by means of heat emitted by a resistor across a battery disguised as a shoe:

And if you change your mind (I'd rather change my shirt) and decide that you really do want to go around in circles after all, stare at this for awhile.

It's not that we are going in circles -- we are simply easily distracted. We've actually covered a lot of ground. The fact that you've decided to work on something other than a Perndev motor is a good sign.

When you said "Is the heat output greater than the voltage requirements to mantain 100 lbs psi." what did you mean? I've read it several times and can't figure out. What do you think the voltage requirements might be to maintain 100 PSI? How would you use an electrical potential to maintain 100 PSI? Ordinarily, gas pressures do not change with differences in potential in any meaningful way: in other words you if place two electrodes in a flask, and seal the flask, you can vary the potential across the electrodes from 1 volt to several thousand, and not see any measurable change in the air pressure within the flask.

You can assume that microwave heating is a non-starter. If you want to heat water efficiently, use an immersion heater. Once you have this hot water, or steam, what are you going to do with it? Are you thinking of blowing it across the surface of a disc? Will the disc be connected to an alternator? Will that alternator feed all or part of its output to the input for the heater?

Please provide clarification, and a sketch of what you have in mind.

Ken, just when I'm beginning to like this guy he posts something that makes me want to wring his proverbial neck.

What's a mother to do? Isn't there some Engineering Boot Camp somewhere we can send him to?

-e

I just re-read the first sentence of the post that started this thread. Talk about a flair for understatement.

yletinifed eh ,puy

melborp a sah

!thgirla

You mentioned "Show me the math."

I think that you may find that the math is already here. Some of it is coded. Poke around, and see what you find. Also consider possibly visual symbolism in certain posts. I cannot say a lot, with others reading, but consider reading certain messages in reverse.

I've probably already said too much.

".esrever ni segassem niatrec gnidaer redisnoc tub..." :setirw neK

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By the way, how do you like my new invention? I call it my GTU Area Generator:

Need more space in your triangular closet? Rearrange it!

-e

europium, here is a larger image:

The pesky physical law that this lesson taught was the phenomenon of "couple". It was about forty dollars worth of materials and about five hours on the lathe and milling machine. Cute, huh?

It certainly looks well-made. Did you machine the parts yourself?

-e

Yes. I just scratched out a quick drawing of what I had designed in my head as I went along and found scrap in my shop to fit what I wanted it to do. My forte' is electronics design but it more often than not encompasses physics, mechanics, packaging, test fixtures or assembly tools. I never had any courses on machine tools but I also never had any trouble just looking at a milling machine or lathe and seeing the possibilities. A quick page by page through an MSC catalog and you have a pretty good idea of the available tooling and what can be done with it. Of course, visualization is my favorite tool.

Oh excepting the little train car and track. I am a big fan of COTS whenever possible.

My dad (retired) and older brother are both master tool & die makers. I'm the runt of the family, having learned how to run a lathe and milling machine only a few years ago. I can even cut threads (angelic trumpet blast)!

In 2004 I built a 600 W ultrasonic phased array having emitted beam dimensions (1st lobe) of 8° wide by 0.8° high. The thing looks like a cross between a (piston-tuned) pipe organ and an Apache rocket launcher. It contains a fair number of precision parts which I machined myself.

Turns out that most of mechanical design was unnecessary - Prototype #2 is planar (and 2 kW) - because I now do all the beam-forming, scanning, and frequency control in real time using (very busy) DSPs, with a separate amp for each of the 24 drivers. As I moved recently, much of my stuff is still in storage - about 120 miles from where I now live (inconvenient? very.) But I'll make sure to take some pics of the prototype next time I go back and post them.

-e

Very nice, I'd like to see that. Is that related to the system I saw recently for scanning for mines? Seems like I recall that it used some kind of phasing that converted the ultrasonic back down to audible vibrations at some distance from the emitter. It was used to stimulate resonances in land mines that were detected as sound and even matched characteristic vibrations to recognize what type of mine. Or is it one of those crowd control devices that uses ultrasonic, amplitude modulated at a subsonic frequency in order to stir up the semicircular canal and induce dizziness and nausea?

Predator mitigation on farms and ranches, driving deer and other animals away from rural airstrips and, yes, crowd control. Because the device is designed to couple well with air, it is not suitable for subsurface work. To generate audible (and infrasound) emissions, you offset the frequency of a portion of the drivers so that when the emissions physically mix, you get sum and difference frequencies with each at a lower intensity (the power is distributed between them). The difference frequencies, of course, are the sonic or infrasonic ones.

-e

I want one

Would you build me one?

How much?

If you're serious (are you?), please wait until Prototype #3 is finished. P2's design is way too expensive to commercialize and you'd only be wasting your money. P3 doesn't introduce new functionality, but it is modular, simpler, less expensive, and can be scaled for the specific application. (What is your application?) Basically, each driver is now self-contained with its own DSP, amplifier, and power supply. The drivers are networked using a proprietary high-speed interface to an intelligent module that ensures everybody is on the same acoustic page. This module, in turn, talks to the Outside World via USB so that a generic PC can be used for configuration, running tests, performing experiments, and so forth. Still interested?

-e

I looooove machining stuff. With my small lathe, you really can't rush, so machining things is therapeutic -- just one step short of meditation. The pivots for the flap on the boat to the left are stainless pins in bronze bushings, all machined on my little lathe.

Many years ago, I built a stereo turntable and tone arm, with an 8" diameter. 1/2" wall tube section as the driven pulley, 1/2" thick acrylic as the turntable itself, a brass hexagonal counterweight on the tone arm, etc.

OHMYGOD. Just realized. The turntable might have been my first serious experiment with magnetic levitation -- so it is apropos for this thread. I am reluctant to say anything more, because I could be accused of sticking to the topic... But the gist was that the tone arm would track linearly on a virtually frictionless bearing. Also played with air support... but eventually built a conventional tone arm pivoted on sapphire jewels.

Ken writes: "The pivots for the flap on the boat to the left are stainless pins in bronze bushings, all machined on my little lathe."

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Did you mean to include a photo?

When I was a kid, I wanted to be a Swiss watchmaker. I've always loved the aesthetics of finely machined stuff. A very long time ago my neighbor gave me a gorgeous antique pocket-watch for fessing-up to a crime me and the neighbor kids committed. Mrs. Overman had a pristine '63 T-Bird parked in her carport behind my house. My friends and I were throwing gravel at each other in the alley and it was hitting her car. She was livid and came sailing out of the house with a broom. The other kids ran away, but I just stood there too dumb to leave. Turns out that after having confessed to my part in the crime, she invited me inside and made me a malt (she made the best malts I've ever tasted, bar none). We talked about different stuff and we somehow got on the subject of clocks and watches (I probably also confessed to taking apart my dad's watches whenever he left them on the sill of the tub after taking a bath. I don't remember). As it happened, she and her husband collected timepieces - including pocket watches - and boy did they have a collection! In glass display cases in their living room. She showed me her collection and asked "Which one would you like to have?" It had a solid silver case and a real crystal 'crystal.' The innards were all engine-turned, and it had ruby bearings. I was blown away!

It pays to be dumb sometimes.

-e

Did you mean to include a photo?

Only the one already under my name to the left. The actual pieces are hidden in the wing.

I remember pushing a friend and his bicycle through the glass front door at our junior high school. I had to pay for the door, but the principal was impressed as hell when I told him it would take a couple weeks of work at the tennis club to get the money together. Being that the school was in a pretty affluent neighborhood, he'd assumed mommy and daddy would pay the bill.

Broke the window (fortunately not killing my friend in the process) and earned r e s p e c t.

Not everyone here has 20/10 vision. I'm as blind as a bat and have been known to walk into walls - going into the Pub, that is. Would you do us the honor of posting a larger picture in the body of a post? Here's some money for a brewski. I'll sit out here on the curb with this icepack.

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e: The previously mentioned pins/bushings fit between the roundyholey thingies and the end of the crossed stick thingies. Altering the angle between these pieces would give the appearance of flap deflection to the uninitiated. However, as you have probably suspected, the structure actually caused a circulation effect, and the right hand rule dictates an upward force that would lift the craft homeward to the mother planet.

15 aera noitnem ton oD

!terces siht peek esaelP

This is the "boat" (wink wink) into which the above parts made their way. As you can see, it was designed to float, to further promote the deception. The area at the center front of the crossbeam (horizontal wing like structure) is not faired at this point, so that I could monitor a highly-stressed area of the structure. (The stress I am talking about comes about from the concentration of muons in and around the 4" diameter carbon fiber tube connecting the hull and crossbeam.)

I just hacked into Area 51's servers and found your plans. Very clever "boat" you've got there!

How's Darth?

FOR EUROPIUM'S EYES ONLY: See critical hidden message in my post #135.

k

(He's doin' OK.)

UltraSound phased array.. sounds like you know what you are up to.. are you interested in a little bit of work for the benefit of your fellow man, and your bank balance..

newell_tj@msn.com I live in the UK working on Robots into agriculture because we can grow it but we cant pick it all at the right time...

Perhaps I should ask the CR4 Demigods to post this as one of their Technical Challenges? Thread, what do you think?

Please, no spoilers. I have one that's even worse. You don't wanna see it, trust me.

-e

Yes -- I think that's a great idea. (Actually a thread with a catchy title might be best. It may be just me, but the Challenge Questions seem to get lost in the noise.) In fact, you might even whip up a blurb to the effect that the illustration, by analogy, proves the availability of free energy. If there is free area lurking around, then there must be free energy.

I could hardly improve on what others have said. To say that you miss the point is so far beyond being a mere understatement that it is, uh, well, pointless. It must surely be time to pull out my personal description of the difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is innocent an amenable to remedy unless, of course, pride and arrogance intervene in which case it most often blossoms into stupidity. You are unable to ask a question that even makes sense wanting us to arbitrarily relate volts, air pressure and heat. Let me ask you, how many apples does it take to ferment a horse into an asteroid? Come on now, show me the math! Your question makes no more sense than that. I think we attempted to give you the benefit of the doubt but now please just go away. You are wasting everyone's time including your own and you will not find answers to your questions here because THERE ARE NO ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS YOU ASK.

C'mon now, Mr. Capper! We all ask dumb questions from time to time. Like, "If the Moon is smaller than the Earth, then why is it farther away?" Or, "Do you drive to work or pack your lunch?" Give the guy a break!

-e

I try, believe me. Something just snaps when it seems there is no opportunity to pierce the veil of stupidity. Of course the part Irish genes could also be a factor.

Yep. Like I asked Ken: "What's a mother to do?"

Maybe I should coin a phrase: "You can always tell a perp; you just can't tell 'im much."

-e

I just visited www.americanantigravity.com. It is simply not possible to underestimate the gullibility of the Believing Public, nor underestimate the integrity of those foisting this crap on them.

I dunno. Maybe I'll set out a few trotlines by building my own GTU/Antigravity/MayanCalendar/FreeEnergy website, cuz I sure could use a few truckloads of real easy sucker-money right about now.

-e

Europium--I'm semi-serious, but low-dollar so probably no-way-Jose. Just interested. Wife's garden has deer eating all of her veggies in the summer and the present system(s) don't work (one is ultrasonic w/ motion detector) bugs the hell out of me, but doesn't seem to bother the deer.

Ken--upside-down flight. I'm excited. It'll either be thrilling or nauseating. "out-of-control-bar" -that's funny and accurate.

For REAL flight see this thread. Upside down, backwards, etc, etc.

Stall speed has a whole new meaning now. I think I'm going to throw up just watching that. Was that meant to demonstrate something? Like how much abuse the pilot or the plane can take?

I'm not sure where the footage originated (and in fact, it looks like it was put together from more than one flight) but I'd guess it might have been shot at the Le Bourget air show where airplane builders try to sell their stuff. The cool thing about this is that the plane is designed to do all that stuff routinely. It is designed to fly 200 kM/hr backwards! (In most planes, even the certified aerobatic one I used to fly, flying backwards is verboten.) In a post to Masu in that thread, I provided some more details and a link to a wikipedia article about the Sukhoi.

Yepperdoodles! I want one of these for my ex-in-laws - with a remote control. Ownage!

-e

I've seen those, and they don't work - at least not for long. They rely on startling the animal, but that is all. Eventually animals become accustomed to the sound and learn to ignore it. On the other hand, it is a bit more difficult for an animal to adjust to pain. Not harmful, but miserable and scary. Like a hawk about the size of a school bus.

-e

Steve-o,

There's nothing like Mountain Lion urine to drive deer away from your loved one's garden, and nothing says "I love you" more sincerely than the Gift of Urine. Believe me, once she sees how effective this stuff is, she won't be p!ssed at all! It's a far cheaper solution than my device if the area you need to protect is relatively small. The smell of mountain lion, wolf, coyote, or especially, lion or tiger urine scares the livin' crap out of deer, dogs, armadillos, javelinas, coyotes - even wolves. You have to mix-n-match, depending on the species of critter you want to drive away. Believe it or not, you can actually order this stuff online, here and here.

Farmers and ranchers normally wouldn't use this stuff around their stock, as it drives sheep and cattle bonkers. Especially sheep. They go absolutely berzerk. It's more fun to watch than AFV! (but not more fun to watch than seeing Bill Gates getting Pied in the Puss.)

-e

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Thanks for the info. I have heard of deer-repellant (containing wolf pee-I think). I didn't know there were so many different kinds! I like electronic gadgets better than handling pee, but whatever works i guess:/ ..and whatever makes the little woman happy. (The universal law of spousal dynamics)

That was funny seeing Bill Gates getting pied in the face. I can't think of a more deserving billionaire. (maybe Donald Trump...)

"nothing says "I love you" more sincerely than the Gift of Urine."

mmm. You reckon I should put a bow and ribbon around it?

To be honest, I'm interested in the ultrasonic device because I like non-lethal weapons. I'd like to build a "phaser on stun". I was toying around with an idea of a capacitor bank discharging thru an scr to a wire that would explode in a parabolic dish for a stun effect--flash-bang with maybe a disorienting EMF pulse. Haven't done it yet tho..

..egassem ruoy tog lla ew ,neK hey--

mmm. You reckon I should put a bow and ribbon around it?

Just soaking the bow and ribbon in it should be fine.

..egassem ruoy tog lla ew ,neK hey--

DRAT! I knew I should have been more careful.

Maybe switch to ig-pay atin-lay..

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rehpic kcolb 844-hsifwolb gnisu tpyrcne neht ,yal-nita yap-gi

I'm worried that 448 blocks may be too small... but for the time being, we could go with that, provided that text is actually displayed as a Morse code representation of the numeric ASCII values of the the characters that would otherwise appear from the encoding.

I really don't want to have to move to the additional step of encoding the above result into music notation -- that seems a little over-the-top, doesn't it?

-.- . _. (encoding not implemented: insufficient sensitivity level)

Steve-o writes: "I didn't know there were so many different kinds!"

And who collects this stuff, I wonder, and how? (Man with big jar in hand, following puma through woods: "Here kitty-kitty!" Second puma following man. Lunch.)

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Steve-o writes: "I was toying around with an idea of a capacitor bank discharging thru an scr to a wire that would explode in a parabolic dish for a stun effect--flash-bang..."

Rather than using an SCR, you can build a triggered spark gap as the high-speed, high-current switch. Use "low-inductance" energy-storage capacitors and short lead lengths to minimize pulse rise-time.

-e

Steve-o writes: "...and whatever makes the little woman happy. (The universal law of spousal dynamics)"

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Law of Spousal Dynamics, Corollary 1.1b states that once Hubby has successfully looked after Wife's interests (garden and all), Wife sanctions Hubby's Next Project and relinquishes purse strings."

-e

-e,

The pie in Gates face was great, but nowhere as good as the introduction of Vista! That may well turn out to be the ultimate "pie in the puss".

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/5143/Vista-Big-Brother-is-alive-and-well

Regards, Greg

Remote controlling the ex-inlaws around! Brilliant!

Overunity is possible...

As well as make magnetic motors that works and run by it self.

To all that can't get it to work: Maybe you're in the wrong area of business?

Who cares about pepole here that can't get it to work? It only proves that they don't have the brains to get it right.

hahaha... And that is great for us who made it work... hahaha...

ENERGY IS DISSIPATED IN A RESISTOR AND STORED IN AN INDUCTOR

use this but change it to ramping depolarization TO just repolarizations

KEY TERMS: inductor, magnetic energy density, R-L circuit, time constant, L-C circuit, electrical oscillation, series R-L-C circuit.

Inclined linear generator

Motional emf

Changing magnetic flux induces current (recall I = V / R)

change the V to ramp and R to unramp thus keeping I as force output

Just as I thought. I will build a prototype and let you know how it works. As I said, the timing issue is trivial.

Try something basic that demonstrates a true overunity justification and may lead the way for better electro-magnetic energy transformation engines ...

energy comes from somewhere and if PERENDEV motor indeed runs on magnet energy the magnet transforms it from somewhere and that somewhere many times means magnets will burn down and deplete its charge ....

Perendev had not made a PLAN or schematic public and may be just another elaborate scam ,so untill independent replication is done BS meter is reading red.

Try rotoconversion RV (rotoverter) it is the linux of free energy research

With free schematics and over hundreds of replications worldwide...

Any engineer with the basic off the shelve stuff can built one and test

applicable NOW as energy saving device and true ZPE R&D tool ...

Thanks !

Yeah, I'm sorry, I can't go along with the use of the term "over unity". It is equivalent to saying "magic" or "I don't really understand what's happening." or "I don't know what I am doing wrong in my measurements to make me think that energy is falling out of the sky." Whenever I see a battery connected then at some point you are going to be charging the battery from somewhere other than the apparatus. Pictures are inadequate evidence. Show me a factory or a house with their electric meter removed and the lights on. Make that the whole city because if it really worked it would already be on the market, it's just that big of a deal. If it could make you rich and you aren't rich yet and haven't been nominated for the Nobel Prize then it doesn't really work. If you had the answer to the world's energy crisis in your hand then why would you sit on it? It would not take much "over unity" to make you rich. One percent efficiency is more than adequate since you just keep feeding it back in to make more, right? Need more just make it bigger. But they can't because it doesn't work. If it does, it would be more that amateur pictures on a web site. How is that not an incontrovertible argument?

What I don't understand is that such a working device would make the person who demonstrates even 1% "over unity" rich beyond even Bill Gates' standards. So why isn't it on the market? That's what I don't understand. Can you explain it to me, I would really like to hear why it is not being installed in every home and factory as we speak.

The Panacea site is more of the same-old same-old. 365 watts in 1600 out! Makes me wanna wretch. If I were Baldor, I'd be embarrassed to have the corporate name associated with this. It looks as if the original idea, as presented to them, may been more along the lines of power factor correction. One would hope there is no one in the Baldor org at any level who would fall for the nonsense on the Panacea site.

I had the exact same thoughts.

Professional in being dumb.

Thank you. Given the source, I'll take that as a compliment.

Here's what the panacea site says:

In summary the input current is 385 watts, The output current is 1600 watts. Take 1600 watts, subtract 385 watts and it will equal 1215 watts of over unity from the input needed to create it.

If you can demonstrate a motor system that supports the claim above, then you are wasting your time here. Most of us have a grounding in science, and will only try to slow down commercialization of your product, by pointing out basic physics. Better you should go directly to the Baldor or GE CEO with your prototype. GE, especially, if convinced that your idea works as advertised, will gladly pay several billion for worldwide rights. Don't delay. Clearly there is no need for additional "replications." The time to move is now. Imagine the good you will be able to do with the billions of dollars you'll earn.

Good luck on your journey. And don't be dissuaded by those people here who say that over unity devices cannot work because of basic, well-understood physics principals. As you, or someone with similar mindset has said, MIT is full of a bunch of nitwits. Disclose no more here. There are people lurking (probably from MIT, even) who will steel your ideas. There is a million dollar prize for any demonstration of an over unity machine. It's been offered for many years with no takers. Perhaps it waiting for you. But say no more. Go claim the prize first. You are also a shoe-in for the multi-million dollar Automotive XPrize -- a car powered by such a system would win hands down.

what would be a suitable panacea demonstration?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6905677911913482159

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the instructions on how Panacea got a RV'd motor running on solar panels are at:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rotoverter:Replications:Panacea

other replications at

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rotoverter:Replications

i would recommend checking them out - they are quite interesting. the EVGray list is also very active regarding the RotoVerter.