The Perendev Magnetic Motor

I reiterate: What I don't understand is that such a working device would make the person who demonstrates even 1% "over unity" rich beyond even Bill Gates' standards. So why isn't it on the market? That's what I don't understand. Can you explain it to me; I would really like to hear why it is not being installed in every home and factory as we speak. Can you answer this question? It is not even technical. Just tell me why, if such free energy were available, why isn't it spreading like wild fire? If some on were giving away free money, I am sure that there would be a line forming for miles. Where is the line? Where are the people getting rich? Where is the news reports telling us the world's problems are solved? Certainly it is not a matter of belief or understanding. Millions of people fly in airplanes and they have no idea how they work. Millions drive cars and all they know is they turn the key and it goes. It is pointless to argue the physics because you believe pictures on more than one website is replication. It is not. Errors can be replicated just as well as truth. Where are the people running homes every day off grid? Just answer that single practical question!

rcapper,

Tha answear to that may be simple, yet complicated!!

The simple part may be that it has been to mash scam in the past so it becomes hard to get noted as investors try to stear away from things like this al the times.

The more complicated Q is that it may turn out that everybody listen to the wrong pepole, like university'es and so on and according to em it ain't possible...

All I got to say about the MIT and so on is that they are dumb fuckers and do not realy know jackshit. (They did realy make a fool of them self'es on the Discovery Channel!!!)

Also note that many contries have a restriction agenst inventions that may have the possible act to disasamble/destroy good running companies or as well as if it is a treat to the national economics and the power comunity as is the governmets.

This is already an act the day it is sendt to the patent office.

If the patent office se it that way, they will contact "higher ground" and ask if it this a national security risk. I ain't going to say that it is that way in all contries, however it is so where i live.

I checked out all your links, although I had to skim the first one, which was a rather long and rambling video.

I'm sold. I've decided to abandon reason, and get on the over-unity bandwagon. If I throw out reason, logic, education, and ethics, then this stuff starts to become appealing! I'd like to be in on the scam too! There is no end to the money to be made in preying upon uninformed people.

My old fuddy duddy alter ego would have said (before my recent conversion) that I saw absolutely nothing in any of the links that suggested that there is anything more to "RV" than a couple motors and deliberate or inadvertent lies. But now... I say go for it! The R&D has been done. Commercialize immediately! 4:1 output:input is far more than necessary for income in the billions! GE alone has spent billions just getting electric motors up to their current (but less than 100%) efficiencies. If they can get rid of all those dimwitted, think-inside-the-box engineers, imagine the money they could make! (Can you believe what nitwits the Baldor people are -- they can't even ship their motors with the right grease in them, according to your -- and now my -- hero.)

The world has been ruled for too long by those blasted educated people! George Bush may be a sign of good things to come! If a guy who bought his way into school and got C's while there can rule the most powerful country on earth, then there's real hope for even the proponents of over unity-devices to rule too! I see this as a real win-win: if it doesn't work as advertised, there are still plenty of opportunities to bilk the unwary: after all this is precisely the same as one of Dennis Lee's scams, on which he has made millions at the expense of the uninformed. It it does work, we're billionaires. Let's do it 50-50. You build the prototype, I've got the contacts.

Ken, clearly you have discovered the secret and the true source of free energy, you buy it with the money you get from scamming investors. Cool, I'm on board. And by the way, in case you weren't aware, George Bush is the anti-Christ and I think he would be particularly interested in getting in on the scam. Thanks for clearing things up for me. Like you, I was about to head down the dark path of logic and reason.

This is getting so deep I can hardly stand it..(where's my boots?)

Boots? Did I hear boots? Step right up, and Rcapper and I would be happy to sell you a pair! Our deluxe pair will make you entirely immune to appeals to logic, and even the most basic scientific principals will slide right off! If anything sticks, just use a hose. Need help getting hosed? We're here to help! What was that credit card number again?

Keep in mind that you as all otter here are wery primitive.

Primitive and yet we have learned to use spell check. Also, may I suggest that anyone who believes that they can accurately assess the power consumption of the circuits indicated below with the instrumentation shown in the other photographs is operating from some very unknowledgeable assumptions and could in that sense be considered primitive. I expect that virtually all of the people who have fooled themselves to believe that they are producing energy "over-unity" have done so due to a lack of technical understanding about how to properly account for all the energy going in and coming out of their device.

schematic - how to RV a normal motor.

off-the-shelf motor, capacitors and wiring required.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:RonPRVcircuit.JPG

the whole thing with RV is 1) its free 2) it works on off-the-shelf motors 3) nothing to be sold - just d-i-y it yourself.

if you were baldor, youd be pretty happy. baldor australia were:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rotoverter:Replications:Panacea:Baldor

RotoVerter gives provable energy savings. but can be taken further into resonance-based overunity.

harder, but doable.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=rotoverter

for a bunch of videos of replications of RotoVerter. more coming constantly

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I can't wait! Can you ship them UPS red? I'm ready for extreme illogical rantings and ravings.

Boots on the way.

BTW, I googled your credit card number, and came up with some really interesting websites. (Maybe they were put up by gynecologists?)

For over 100 years now has pepole been realy dumb, real stupid.

For those that have not build a RV will keep being dumb and not know the facts.

But thats your problems.

There are working systems of overunity and i know that there is many hundred successfull builds out there. I know more than 20 of these pepole who built them and it is working.

These pepole are not stupid, they have solid backgrounds in electrical and mechanical engineering.

Anyways, it is not possible that many hundred electrical engineers do same wrong measurements all over the globe.

Then they must be greedy or they are plotting to overthrow humanity. Why else wouldn't their devices be in production and solving the world's energy crisis? Please answer that question. People may be stupid, but even the most stupid person wouldn't turn down the chance to not have to pay for energy. What is the plan of all these people who secretly hoard free energy and keep it from the masses? Why would they be so cruel and selfish?

Right at this moment there are many 1000 pepole around the globe that working on the interesst to save the planet, many of these has it as an obsession and live for it.

And that is good! Some few % of these pepole have contact with aliens and get from time to time help from our nightbors in the milky way.

In not so loong time a new el-car will hit the marked, this car dont need to be charged as it sharges it self.

The car name will be EWG. (Everwatt Generators) and will be producen in Paris. Framework producen in Pakistan and the system that makes it run by it self will be produced in Denmark.

The price is not known yet. The car will hit the marked in 2009.

Some few % of these pepole have contact with aliens and get from time to time help from our nightbors in the milky way.

My only advice would be to remember Mars Bars, too. And Three Musketeers.

Grow up.

in additional news, has anyone built the rotoverter on this forum yet? :)

NeonPeak circuit for extracting resonance from the rotoverter.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rotoverter:Replications:NeonPeak

Why?

Group: Internal memos show oil companies limited refineries to drive up prices

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Group_Internal_memos_show_oil_companies_limited_refineries_to_drive_up__0907.html

The Myth Of Peak Oil

http://www.infowars.com/articles/economy/peak_oil_index.htm

McBurney Cracks the Code for Super-Carburetors

(We've emailed back and forth a few times...academic)

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Carburetors/McBurney/cracking/

There are so many more examples. By the way, have you seen this stuff? Some say it is set in stone. I just can't get past the first line, personally...

Georgia Guidestones

http://www.911omissionreport.com/georgia_guidestones/georgia_guidestones_english.jpg

Why, indeed? There would be no profit to be made in a free energy market, would there? I'm playing with some things. I haven't achieved over-unity, yet. With more resources, who knows? What I do know is that they've created an artificial supply and demand for gasoline and crude oil. I do know that Bruce McBurney told me that he lost his family over his work. Man, maintaining a human population under 500,000,000. Are they going to ask for volunteers, I wonder? We are living in interesting times.

If magnetic repulsion demagnetizes magnets and attraction doesn't, then why not built it so the magnets attract???

What a bunch of naysayers, seems like you're all brainwashed to have closed minds.

Don't be so negative ffs, just because current science says it can't be done doesn't mean it's impossible.

In1902 most or all scientist on the planet would say that flying is impossible, then a couple of bicycle builders proved them all wrong.

60 years ago it was impossible to go faster than the speed of sound, or go into space or land on the moon, etc...

We are only starting to scratch the surface of science, we have discovered or invented only a fraction of 1% of what's possible.

A nuclear explosion puts out millions of times more energy than is put in, we just have to figure out how to access and control all that potential energy that exists in the universe.

I know we can't create energy, we can only convert it from one form to another.

Magnets have potential energy, someone just have to figure out the right way to use them efficiently.

There are thousands of uses for magnets, and thousands more uses we haven't thought of yet.

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What a bunch of naysayers, seems like you're all brainwashed to have closed minds.

Few things help to open minds more than some education.

In1902 most or all scientist on the planet would say that flying is impossible, then a couple of bicycle builders proved them all wrong.

A little education would tell you that this is nonsense. Here's a post that will help get you in touch with the reality of flight development. There were scarcely any scientists saying flight was impossible in 1902, because it had been demonstrated much earlier. The people saying it was impossible were uneducated, not scientists. In a similar way, the uneducated naysayers of today (those saying no to science) claim to make perpetual machines form permanent magnets.

60 years ago it was impossible to go faster than the speed of sound, or go into space or land on the moon, etc...

This too is gibberish. Scientists were well aware of the speed of bullets, many of which travel at substantially faster than the speed of sound. The land speed record was only recently (1997) brought to over the speed of sound, but no serious scientist doubted that was possible.

Magnets have potential energy, someone just have to figure out the right way to use them efficiently.

This too, is gibberish. Magnets do not have potential energy beyond that represented by their mass and distance from the floor. They have the potential energy of a stone of the same mass. (They also obviously, like a stone, have an energy = MC², but no one here is proposing a method to release that energy.) If you feel certain that magnets have some special potential energy, then, to be taken seriously, you would need to describe that energy, and how it is measured. Otherwise such an assertion is the equivalent of saying that your 1964 GTO goes 9800 mph, simply because you say it does.

There are thousands of uses for magnets,

There are many uses for pineapples. Making a motor that runs on pineapples, however, is unlikely, as is making a motor that runs forever on permanent magnets. (This excellent illustration shows a pineapple-turnip motor.)

Imagine if the Wright Brothers, Einstein, Curie, Newton, Feynman, Copernicus, Joule, Watt, etc had all squandered their time trying to make perpetual motion machines. We'd be in the dark ages.

Don't be a naysayer. Say yes to science.

I love the trike icon! What IF Einstein etc.. had devoted a small amount of time to the subject? Did they? If you know of ANY big-name scientist that pondered the magnet-motor idea, I'd love to read their findings/thoughts! Until then, I remain optomistic about the possiblity of arranging magnets, and mechanical configurations that may make mag-motors possible. Do scientific laws fully account for the properties of magnets...I don't know. But I'd be happy to learn from anyone!

Thanks, Bryan

Thank you, very interesting! Without having an extensive background in physics/laws, it's hard for the average person (with limited study-time) to see the reasons for disbelief. If a "spiral mag-motor" (multiple spiral assembly) were connected to a heavy enough flywheel; would the flywheel provide enough inertia to get past the "lock-up" positions? (Simular to a merry-go-round, being given little boosts to maintain it's speed.) Or would it simply take longer to coast down to a stop?

Thanks, Bryan

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Now, what says that you can't positions magnets to where they all are slanted in the same degree as other, non-rotating magnets, where their polar opposites are facing each other, so that they perpetually push each other away.

Verrrrrry Interesting!!! This discussion is! Or is it? my backwards speaking friend!

1st of all when it comes to the understanding of natural and man made rare earth magnets the only real laws are mathematical models trying to explain what has been observed but there has been no absolute law found to explain what makes up the actual physical lines of force that mystifies the minds of so many! A (GUESS) that I had is that it is a form of gravity formed by the alignment of the atoms within the magnets that has not yet been acknowledged as of yet, and as a form of gravitational field it would explain allot such as why it looks like it has stored energy when it dos not (think about it the sun moon stars you me and everything you can think about has or is affected by gravity but yet it dose not deplete so long as the mater that makes them up exists no mater how small or large that the object may be). I cant believe anything that has not been fiscally proved not even my own guesses, After all when I was in Jr High school my science teacher said that the atom was the smallest possible particle in the universe and he stated that as a fact, and as I was leaving class I ask him "if the atom was the smallest possible particle then what was radiation" and he said "SHHHH it a secret" This is not a joke that is what he said! Now today we have Alfa, Beta, Gama, and Quarks so until it is proven one way or the other nobody should ever be sure of what nobody knows as proven fact!

Also the guy that was looking to build a steam driven motor for a generator what you are looking for is a sterling Engine this engine uses differences between a hot source and a cold source to drive pistons in what is called the sterling cycle, this motor is well over 100 years old and can run off of any heat source so long as it is much grater than the cooling source for the second half of the cycle this is proven technology, that is currently being used in Swedish navel submarines and has been contracted by California to be built in 2 large projects using mirrored solar dishes for the heat source to run sterling engines to turn generators to supply additional power to the grid. they can be built to use just plain air or with a bit more work the can be built to use any gas that expands rapidly when heated and gives off the heat rapidly when cooled, gases such as hydrogen, nitrogen, CO2, R12, R22, and R134A (propane with additives to prevent explosions), using expanding gases is more powerful than just air but require allot more work to seal it tight so you dont lose the gases ware just air dose not really mater if its not air tight.

Here's a new motor. http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Keppean_Scalar_Motor They claim to run a motor on 1/4 of the normal power required. Check it out. Very interesting. I don't know if there has been any independent verification yet. Don

I found this video of the Keppean motor. http://blip.tv/file/1267549 Don

From Keppean's main page

Brazilian scientists have announced the development of a breakthrough new motor that they hope will soon power everything from cars to industrial equipment. Just like solar panels capture energy from the sun, the Keppe motor captures essential or scalar energy from the so-called "vacuum" of space – which it turns out is no vacuum at all.
Actually, all motors do this, but the prevailing scientific theory doesn't recognize it. Technology today is still locked into trying to get energy from material and this outmoded process actually blocks the capturing of the free energy found in space. As a result, motors today are much less efficient than they should be.

Also from the same site

Primary source of energy: scalar or essential energy (from space).
Secondary source of energy: battery or electrical current used only to give the initial start.
Motor heating: none.
Environmental pollution: none.
Energy cost to operate: 5-10% of what it costs to operate motors of the same potency.
Energy consumption: 10-20 times less than normal.
Operating area: any place on the planet because it is not dependent on other sources of energy such as atomic, hydroelectric, eolic (wind) or coal.
RPM: adjustable in accordance with the applied voltage. 3500 RPMs has already been accomplished with a motor whose rotor weighs 400 grams and consumes 15 watts and 4500 RPMs with a 250 gram rotor.
Torque: a minimum of 5 times greater than the best conventional motors.
Efficiency: depending on the dimensions can be 20 times greater than normal motors.

Doesn't this all look familiar (the fact it was on PesWIKI should have been a bit of an indication) <SIGH>.

Verdict: Just another zero-point energy-from-nothing scam. The website is primarily trying to sell Keppean's book "The New Physics Derived from A Disinverted Metaphysics"

No thanks.

is there any way you can email a set of blueprints to me im trying to find a way to sub mitt a low voltage through the armature and the housing to keep polarity constant and strong let me know if you can help

my email is joshua05eddo@gmail.com

thanks

I wasted several hours of my life reading trough this thread, time that I will never get back in my life. First it started out to be interesting, but more and more it looks like 4 people joking around high on their own perceived smartness! there is one common thread!: you all seem to be somewhat familiar with electricity, and being male! please do society a favor: proceed to the nearest outlet on the wall an pee in it!

the only useful comments on this thread are 50% of the "guest" comments. It is really too bad that your thread shows up in a Google search! WHY?

You are about as helpful in this subject as kissing my dead uncle on the funeral!

If you are to save the environment and energy, stop waisting Oxigen, and producing CO2 YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO!

Does anyone have the copy of blueprint of the Perendev magnetic motor?

email it to me f2004w@yahoo.com

On the drawing there are linings to cover the permanent magnet. Is there anybody have a clear explanation on this on :

1. What is the best material to make this lining ?
2. If I omit this lining, what will the greatest effect on the motor ?

Please help........

magnets perrimetral- bismuth or pyrolitic graphite

surface- alluminium

Mike Brady is now behind bars in Germany. He was arrested in Zurich on March 29 2010 and extradited to Germany in answer to a request made by the Public Prosecutor of Munich. He now sits in a jail in Stadelheim.

Check out a material called GIRON I have used it you can build up layers till you get Zero magnetism..

if you omit the cover you will possibly reduce the effectiveness of the polar Field due to the stray Gaussian Fields, you might try shielding the stationary magnet as a tube to concentrate the field, should improve the efficiency. Hope this helps.

If the badly spelling instigator of this thread has shown anything to the assembled and at times inaptly named fellow engineer's it is that their level of intolerance is as high as their so called intellect, I don't think English is his first language, It is mine and I have lived in england for 62 years and written something every day for the last 56 of them and I still get spelling and grammar mistakes. Why certain members should wish to rip him to shreds on this is pointless.. as pointless or deceitful no perhaps despicable as the un-honorable members who chose to talk in code on this thread to disparage him.

Having the knowledge or thinking you have it leads to narcism " look at me how beautiful I am clothed in this knowledge" ever heard of the Emperor's new clothes?

The most profound thing I was ever taught by my physics teacher was this he said "Knowledge is a living moving thing, everything I teach you is out of date-I left university 5 years ago so my knowledge is that old, and all my teachers left many years before that but they wont call it history" of course I took a little time to understand what he meant but I think I have a perfect illustration of it here in this forum..

The guy that crashed the satellite thing into Mars because he got the measurements wrong was he a engineer? was it a scientist or engineer who said there were no other carbon elements? oh yes and the scientists that told us in the 60's that we were heading for another ice age, and the engineers who told us lead in petrol was ok , ah and that Bumble bees cant fly (body mass v wing area ) mathematicians will pass on that one.

These are examples that are non complex and easy to understand (for those you regard as less capable than yourselves) Should you need more complex and perhaps private versions that will challenge you please feel free to ask, I could bury you underneath stuff from the last 50 years that my limited knowledge has access to.

In the meantime a couple of small things, I would point out to you that (1) it is not compulsory for you to comment on this, or any other forum.. (2) nobody dies if you dont..(3)if you cant think of anything to say that is helpful or adds(you do understand this means +) to the debate, do yourselves and others here a favour and say nothing (that means -)

And if you think me rude or you're not down with that...I-got-two-words-for-ya!!!