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07/01/2010 10:13 AM

I have often wondered why the don't put steel mesh canopies on these bridges to stop people committing suicide and throwing objects

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07/01/2010 10:34 AM

What's a YOB? Milo

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07/01/2010 10:41 AM

Derived from old back slang.... yob is just boy backwards.
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07/01/2010 10:48 AM

its a word we use here for anyone normaly youg who is a trouble maker

sorry about the language problems and driving on the wrong side of the road.

In the US that is of course.

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In Britain, as the word 'yobb' came out of the London back slang and into more general English usage, it and latterly 'yobbo' have meant 'working class, adolescent, male person'. Within his own culture, he was not necessarily seen as uncouth, though a person writing about him rather than speaking of him was likely to be of another social class and prone to seeing him as loutish.

Dr. C. T. Onions, an editor of the Oxford English Dictionary, seems not to have noticed the word before he published the XYZ section of the dictionary in 1921 but the later supplement notes the use of 'yob' as meaning 'boy' in the working-class youth context, from 1859. This implies that the word had by that stage come out from the back slang argot into ordinary English usage. In the dictionary supplement's references, it is possible to detect a slow drift in the word's meaning, towards the 'Ruffian' interpretation, the new emphasis becoming clear from about 1927.

'Yobbo' appears from 1922 when its meaning does not clearly emphasize the ruffian. Its meaning drifts clearly towards the 'ruffian' interpretation by 1956, though a reference of 1938 calls a yobbo a 'Street Rough'.

In Britain today this word is sometimes superseded by the newer term "Chav".

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07/01/2010 10:59 AM

Meaning no disrespect, but over here we drive on the RIGHT side of the road.

As for the language problems, well, Why shouldn't the americans and the brits be separated by a common language?

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07/01/2010 10:48 AM

I'm not sure why all footbridges haven't adopted a fence mesh to cover overhead bridges. To my recollection, most of the footbridges the cross over a road have already had them implemented.

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07/01/2010 10:51 AM

It Proberly is in the US but they are a bit behind here in the mother land UK

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07/01/2010 10:53 AM

Oof, that's rough. I have a hard enough time driving without playing dodgeball with rocks falling from bridges

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07/01/2010 3:10 PM

Some of our overpasses are covered. I guess the U.K. is now catching up to us on juvenile delinquency. You may blame future patterns of bad behavior on us.

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07/01/2010 4:33 PM

Now if only they had spent an extra $2000 and made the top solid to deflect rain from the pedestrians.

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07/01/2010 12:49 PM

Need to go back to public executions.

No better deterent for crime than making people hear a mans neck snap a the end of the hangmans noose.

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07/01/2010 1:27 PM

An AK-47 or equal.

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07/01/2010 2:03 PM

Yeah, sniper practice!

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07/01/2010 2:03 PM

The foot bridge should be closed until it can be covered. Youths are never held accountable for their deeds, that should change. Old enough to make trouble, old enough to suffer for it. If the parents don't control them, put them in juvenile detention until they are old enough to be cannon fodder. These are heartless thugs that have no concern for others. Don't worry about saving them, just remove them from society.

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07/01/2010 2:36 PM

what about cutting fingers off then hands

More humane than going straight for cutting hands off.

What about cutting device fitted to bridge parapet.

like the sniper idea, i always wanted to be a sniper but i injured myself accidentally when young so that put paid to that, probably a good job really ?

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07/02/2010 2:45 AM

Put the parents in detention with them

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07/01/2010 2:34 PM

I'm sure the residents of the Springfield Caravan community would not mind keeping an eye on the foot bridge.

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07/01/2010 3:37 PM

Given the number of people in the world and the number of foot bridges, cases like this are actually quite rare. In New Zealand for example we don't bother. There have been cases where repeat incidents have occurred on a single foot bridge, in which case those specific foot bridges have had mesh canopies added, and it should come as no surprise that these incidents occurred in certain low income demographic areas.

Apart from shooting them what is the solution?

Sometimes the problem solves itself.

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07/01/2010 3:40 PM

How about specially prepared "decoy bricks" with a permanent industrial strength adhesive applied.

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07/01/2010 4:12 PM

I have some questions based on the satellite image.

  • Do rugby clubs serve alcoholic beverages?
  • Would it be possible for yobsters to obtain said beverages from said rugby club?
  • Where is the nearest community aside from the caravan park shown in the image?
  • Is it common to have a footbridge in an isolated area over a major highway?
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07/01/2010 4:31 PM

bridges over roads

when they build large highways here that cut through farmers land the put bridges up to allow the farmer to walk from one side of his field to the other.

I would have thought subways would have been better

so yes its quite common to see bridges that no one uses over the roads

must be nice to have lots of money to waste

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07/01/2010 4:59 PM

The footbridges are a good thing, I just wondered how common they were.

In the states, the farmers have to play a modified game of "Frogger" to cross the highway.

One more question. Have they caught these sons-of-window-dressers?

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i dont think they caught them yet i will try and find out

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07/01/2010 11:02 PM

Shoot em, they'll never do it again. You Brits need target practice anyway....=b

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07/02/2010 9:14 AM

Can't do that in the UK....no one is allowed to posses a gun (or so I've heard).

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07/02/2010 9:36 AM

Therein lies the problem doesn't it? An armed society is a polite one, and dropping rocks on cars is impolite....

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07/03/2010 4:48 AM

What's the penalty for being found to have one?

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07/03/2010 9:28 AM

I'm not sure, but last year I read a story about a former soldier who found a shotgun in his yard, turned it in to the police and consequently was arrested for possession of a firearm. Here's a link to an article as to how that turned out. He was given a 12-month suspended sentence.

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07/03/2010 10:48 AM

Bizarre! And this is an excepted attitude? You Brit's should assign rocks as lethal weapons.

I suppose the police were being passive aggressive jerks eh?

Over here we don't view inanimate objects as possessing lethal intent.

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07/02/2010 1:48 PM

We need target practice ? its your troops that do most of the friendly fire things

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07/02/2010 2:39 AM

The reason this happens in USA is the American gene pool carries the British drop-rocks-on-others gene. That gene is no longer widespread, because in 1787 yobs were no longer transported to USA, they began being transported instead to Australia.

http://www.nationalarchives.ie/topics/transportation/transportation.html

This, of course, introduced the drop-rocks-on-others gene to Australia, where is has flourished, propagated and mutated into several dominant genes.

We Aussies, Americans and British could possibly work on solving the genetic problem by transporting rock-droppers to a fresh land. Anybody care to pick a country? No, wait, that's imperialism.

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07/02/2010 2:45 AM

When you find a solution, let South Africa know. On one of Johannesburg's busiest intersections (Gilloolys), we too have a foot bridge that gangs target-throwing rocks and chunks of concrete off onto cars passing underneath. The only intention is to have you stop or better yet-crash, so that they are able to rob or car jack the unsuspecting victims late at night. A few people have either died from the injuries sustained when the rocks/concrete come through the windscreen or are shot trying to keep their wallets and cell phones from being taken by these idiots.

Some of the footbridges do have wire mesh to prevent this from happening, however not this one, the police did say they would patrol and put up mesh but after a year nothing as yet.

My suggestion is Snipers with a 50. Cal. It only has to be fired once at the idiots for them to get the picture.

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07/02/2010 3:07 AM

A 12V auto battery bounced off my hood one afternoon while driving outside of Kansas City whoever did it was spared only because I couldn't fly but the authorities had been aware of other occasional reports of the activity.

IMHO these punks should have their liberty severely restricted until they grow a conscience.

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07/02/2010 2:59 AM

They are bored, give them something to do to make think of what they could have done rather than that which they chose to do. Picking up rocks and stones seems fitting but taking away a driving privilege and use of public transportation for ten years would be more effective.

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07/02/2010 4:47 AM

A road bridge that crosses the A46 dual carriageway has grown an anti-jumper wire "overcoat" in this last 4 - 6 weeks. It's very elegant, and although mostly open area, it's surprising how enclosed one feels when driving along.

It wouldn't stop stone throwers though.

It's not just yobs that do this. Having pulled in to let a motorbike past, I was astonished to have the pillion throw a pebble at me. I was doubly lucky - the window was open and it missed me. If I could have caught him...trouble was, with an illegal sized number plate, I couldn't even report him!

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07/02/2010 9:17 AM

Okay...I give...what's a pillion?

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07/02/2010 10:25 AM

Here in the states that's what we call the standard little seat behind the driver's seat on a motorcycle. I presume in England they've expanded that to mean the rider.

BTW, my advice as to what to do with these brick throwing idiots is to round them up, ship them to Afghanistan and make them help find some of the 5 million + land mines the Soviets left behind. Sans any electronic or mechanical mine finding equipment, of course.

That could be their first (and last) service to humanity.

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07/02/2010 10:06 AM

A few years ago a woman passenger was killed when someone heaved a frozen turkey over the high fence on a footbridge here in NYC.

Such irresponsible youthful "antics" should be dealt an Orwellian solution:

"We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him. We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of ourselves before we kill him... [...]"

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07/02/2010 11:44 AM

I think this problem is universal. Bored "yobs", excited about destroying something someone else has that they do not, random locations where they can practice their antics. In Chicago there were many injuries and some deaths caused by such acts in the past. Most of the over-highway roads and bridges have had some chainlink fencing installed to reduce/prohibit throwing heavy objects toward the highway below. I think there is no real solution as the individuals do not communicate with each other worldwide and each incident is relatively random among a small group of youths.

I think many of the suggested punishments are certainly valid. My addition to the list would be to make the perpetrators run back and forth under a bridge while motorist lobbed heavy objects at them. Sort of a "tit for tat". Might give them some appreciation for what they are doing and the occasional serious injury or death simply removes future troublemakers from society. Rather harsh, but I've never thought capital punishment was especially effective. I'd rather banish criminals to a penal colony where they had to survive on their own, or perish. Just my 2cents.

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