An open letter to zacky

Maybe he's spamming? I too got such a message. One of the key reason I am not a religious believer is this kind of underhanded behavior. A form of false witnessing, so to speak.

Kramarat, please can I see the private massage you have been receiving from Zacky?

Dickson Kamah.

My copy read like this:

You can consider it as a friendly invitation that u can accept or reject. It is not a compulsory issue. Have you for once told him not to send such invitations and he insist sending them? Try that out.

Dickson.

I've received 2 of these in a week, and others have received them also. This is definitely spamming, by a CR4 member, no less. I don't have to tell him anything, this is not a religious forum, period. Personally, I hope he gets excommunicated from this site forever, pun intended.

That's it tornado.

I've reported zacky. I urge everyone who has received this nonesense to also report him/her. This deserves a lifetime ban. Spamming is not OK on any forum I've ever seen, and I've seen dozens.

I'm in total agreement. If zacky is allowed to continue this behavior, there is nothing to stop people from from sending out friendly invitations to try out penis enlargement pills, get rich quick ideas, etc. etc. etc. I would like to think that there is a certain unwritten code of honor here, and zacky, in my opinion has crossed way over the line! Unlike our personal email, we can't block people from sending us personal messages here, which makes this an even more egregious act.

As an observer on the sidelines, I'd like to take the time to write a good response to all of this, but I've got about six jehovah witnesses waiting on the doorstep ringing my doorbell and wanting to sell me some comic books or something.

I didn't intend for this post to morph into religion bashing, either, to each his own. zacky has been exposed, mission accomplished.

Hi Tornado

I go to the religious section of my library and pick the Srimad Bagavatam (not sure about the spelling, its been a long time). I invite them to stay but they just turn their backs and try their dirty deeds elsewhere.

This is upsetting me no end and my tolerance is stretched to braking point. Extremely unintelligent to ring the CR4 doorbell. But will his dysfunctional brains even take note?

OK, I'm over it, Ky.

Wow,

That Whacky zacky must be psychic. He can send messages to "guests".

That's SPAM to the max.

I also received these messages. I asked zacky if he/she/it knows me but got no response. Big surprise.

It sounds to me as if the Guest who is coming to zacky's defense may be zacky hiding behind a false facade. This is another reason why ANY poster should have to register!

I feel left out

Where's my PM?

on a positive note I think Lynlynch has avoided a TIA for the time being

Mini Stroke

Apparently "zacky" has recruited two equally dopey friends collectively to vote several germane posts with three OTs. I have rebuked him harshly via PM and might relish a more permanent Celestial Supreme Court ruling. These guys never learn.... All the better if this would happen in real time and in open view, but I'm not holding my breath.

There is nothing open about moderation [or lack] on this site

Oh, you've noticed that, too....

But if you are a "Charter Member CR4 Community Moderation Oversite [sic] Commit[t]ee, maybe you can jack up the other members?

Tornado

Dear Mr Walker

Yep, those tactics have been deployed since centuries now. First try and recruit and if the peasants don't behave, obey by their rules, they are punished into submission. I can't believe it's still going on and that admin is tolerating this.

I think I'll withdraw my proposal to getting in touch with their boss. He knows best and will sort it out in his own good time. I would not like to be in their shoes though, he is a hard judge and has never shown mercy to the slaves of Satan.

May the Lord have mercy on their souls and give them a chance to repent. They should just read the script and all the others, just like I have and shut up and stop this blasphemous act. "They no not know what they are doing" comes to mind. And it just keeps coming. It's a disgrace to all who want to live a peaceful life and spread the word of compassion with out relying on the help of the largest organized crime syndicate ever to exist on the face of this earth.

I'll leave it at that and will not publish what I have been preparing, so to put them on the right track. It would be Perls for the swines and teeth could be broken not to mention the eyes, one by one.

Bottom line: Very sad state of affairs, Ky.

"Trust not the false prophets"

"Trust them by there deeds and not their words"

I feel better now.

Rather than have "the administration" whack this guy and his companions, I would prefer to do it myself. "The administration" only edits and deletes stuff, removing all trace of how scurrilous it is was. Generally, I think it is much better to leave the garbage alive, all the better to attack it. I hate censorship. Better that nonsense be exposed and countered, rather than hidden.

It may be seen that "zacky" has not responded to any of this, except maybe in the guise of "guest" and some friendly "guests." No one is fooled by this, except other fools.

OT's are going ballistic I see. I wondered the other day if one could delete ones own GA's or have them deleted. You know, they can become a target and give saboteurs satisfaction of some perverted kind. Or are they set in stone now? I might find out soon, no skin off me.

I haven't done it lately, but I used to delete my own GAs when I didn't think they deserved the vote; now, I just don't care.

I agree. I have several erroneous GA's. I get much more satisfaction hearing back from the OP telling me that something I came up with helped them out.

An interesting idea. We could ask the ads to set up a "no holds barred" sub-forum where they could move stuff like Zacky's link and we could all go at it. I'd like that.

Thanks ALL!

Though I am a bit overwhelmed with "work" - boo hiss - this is the best "lurking" laugh I've had in a week.

Given we know full well that Admin can read PM's - what are they thinking except the members can dish better than a 'delete' - All good fun.

So thanks Admin for letting it stand.

And thanks Zacky - you're up there with 'over unity' hobbits.

But what you have again demonstrated/proved is; the GA system is as corruptible as anyone's silly agendas.

Zacky's messages have since been removed. There were a lot of them, and they were sent over the weekend, when we had fewer resources to deal with the problem.

If you continue to see anything that concerns you please use the "Report!" feature or send an email to CR4Admin@globalspec.com

To All:

A couple of days ago, zacky was banned. A lot of people reported his messages. He will probably not be responding to any of this, except as guest perhaps.

As for the crazy off-topicing of the whole thread. One of the few users off-topicing I suspect is an alternate profile of zacky. This profile will probably be banned shortly. The other user I cannot be so sure of. I will monitor this other profile and see if this is just a one-time thing or a pestering habit.

In the future, if there are messages of this nature, please report it.

Thanks Jaxy, I had no idea this was going to set off such a fire storm, reporting someone goes completely against my nature, and I wouldn't have done it if he was doing his posting out in the open forum. Regardless of the content of zacky's messages, the only reason I reported him, was because, just like some of the earlier posts say, what I was seeing amounted to spamming, from within CR4, by a person that I had never had contact with, and it looked like it was starting to escalate. I would have felt no differently if a CR4 member was using the private message system to try to sell a product to people, it's just not right. In hindsight, I wonder if I should have let it go, because it certainly is looking like zacky and his friends are going to continue to try to wreak havoc by signing in as guests, and fiddling around with the ratings, probably reporting people for no reason, etc.

Even if you had just 'let it go,' there were plenty of other reportings of his behavior. They can't fiddle around with the ratings if they are banned (guests cannot vote). I also don't think that guests can report other users.

You are right. Regardless of the content, zacky was spamming different users. It is different when you know the person/people and think they may be interested in a link. It is another entirely to spam like zacky was.

I too received zacky's email and reported it. Too late apparently as he has already been banned. From this thread though it looks like he really touched a nerve. Anything I could add has already been covered here, probably better that I would have said. Any thing else I "would" have said would probably violate the rules of engagement, I mean terms of use on this site.

Zacky, your right to sling garbage on the internet ends where my hard drive begins.

I would like to reiterate to any of zacky's friends on here that are legitimate CR4 users, that my OP had little to do the contents of his message, that is irrelevant, it was the method of delivery that I had a problem with, which, I think has been established, would be considered spam. I hope you can recognize this and not spend any more time trying to mark all of my comments as off topic on other threads, reporting me, etc., or to anyone else that posted to this thread. That is just nonsense.

Makes you feel any better - I've just given your thread 5 stars, and each of your posts a GA .

Keep smiling.

RBT it is for me.

Nothing wrong with keeping extremists on the strait and narrow and stopping spam. It's just a shame that one could be called "not spiritual" for not belonging to an organization. Although I have a pragmatic mind, the miracle of waking in the morning and becoming a witness to the glory of life every time I do so, is something I would not like to miss.

Governing this, or trying to, is worse than being hand cuffed.

May freedom reign supreme, Ky.

Thanks, but that sure wasn't necessary, I'd like to think that any GA's are earned. I just like it here just the way it is, GA's or not, and would hate to see it get messed up by the tactics that led me to start this thread. I have a feeling, that if it became a full time job for the moderators to look for this type of thing and have to be on constant patrol, they would probably just shut it down, and that would truly be a shame. This is a great site! So many people from all over the world that are eager to help out complete strangers and expecting nothing in return. Not something you see very often. Thanks again.

here's the highest Ga total

http://cr4.globalspec.com/comment/262361/Re-Water-Batteries-Joshua-Reply

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Thanks John

Just another GA, what else. Ken must have had some very good reasons to leave us. What a shame. He put me on the straight and narrow years back and I can't thank him enough. Well spoken teachers, advisers are hard to come by and he is definitely one of them. Hope he is doing well and that he will come back one day, Ky.

Many who say they will leave still linger - as Guests or with new names.

Unfortunately Blink left us a short time ago. He had many posts as good as this one.