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Skunked dog

07/17/2010 1:52 PM

Last night my dog, a German Shepherd, killed his third skunk in as many years. He must have good hunting instincts, because he has always been able to make a kill without getting sprayed directly. Normally he barks if there is anything near our (his) yard, a cat, another dog, or a person. But in these instances he was silent, lightning fast and accurate in his attack, breaking the skunks back before it could turn on him

But he still stinks of skunk, and we let him back into the house before we realized what he had done. Now our house stinks of skunk too. When I finish this post, my wife Roxy, and I are going to give the dog a bath with the Peroxide-Baking Soda formula. It has worked well for us in past episodes.

Our problem is what to do about the smell in our house. An internet search only leads to businesses that want to sell us their magic formulations at a ridiculous price. Other than keeping the windows open, airing the place out, and waiting the two weeks for the oder to break down, what can you suggest?

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07/17/2010 1:59 PM

I hear they are practically giving away seaside hotel rooms in the Gulf Coast area.

Put the skunk killer in the kennel and take two weeks off. You deserve it.

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07/17/2010 2:11 PM

The only thing I can suggest is to sprinkle baking soda on all surfaces, like carpets and upholstery and vacumn it up and repeat as necessary. Kitty litter might also work?

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07/17/2010 3:06 PM

If you drink copious quantities of Heineken beer it will make the smell less noticeable until it dissipates.

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07/17/2010 3:16 PM

That is exactly my approach. It seems to be working for the moment

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07/17/2010 4:38 PM

Here's an idea. Just pour the Heineken directly onto the dog.Then he will smell like a skunk without actually having to murder one next time.

OH, this will piss him off!!!!

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07/17/2010 5:05 PM

Animals are incapable of murder, they get to kill just for the fun of it. I think they do this out of frustration because they are not able to log onto CR4.

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07/17/2010 7:21 PM

Are yew kidding? You see what goes on here; we're over-run by simians.

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07/17/2010 8:59 PM

True enough, but what would we do without them?

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07/19/2010 9:52 AM

I gave your proposal a thorough evaluation this weekend, although I used a different brand of beer. It proved to be very effective. I either didn't notice the smell or if I did, it didn't bother me. Today will be the critical test. I will be at work all day. The question will be how many brews it will take to neutralize the smell when I get home tonight.

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07/19/2010 2:38 PM

you have to be very careful with that remedy, as the same remedy can have you bringing home ah... um... strays, which also may not smell so good!

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07/19/2010 2:54 PM

Or, worse yet:

Dateline Haverhill Mass:

The Mass. Department of Fish and Game has been able to find no explaination for the decimation of the skunk population in a certain area on the outskirts of town.

Their investigation has revealed that the only other statistic which has grown out of proportion to other areas is a dramatic increase in the sale of a particular brand of beer.

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07/19/2010 3:45 PM

hee hee...

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07/17/2010 3:57 PM

Hey. We use GOJO hand cleaner on the dog . Murphys oil soap too. They are the right pH and safe to use. They pick up a lot of the odor and is gentle. Then we used a anti skunk shampoo afterwards.

Go ahead and pitch the dogs collar, and get new tags ordered, we found we were unable to get the smell off the hardware. So much for my flippin chemistry education... I would rent an ozone machine from a local disaster recovery company to attack the organics. Service master or servpro are names you might recognize.

Remember, get rid of the collar and tags! Milo

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07/17/2010 8:25 PM

A skunk behaviorist I once knew swore by tomato juice as a neutralizer. He would get sprayed every now and then, but hardly anyone could tell afterward when he came home. The carpets might not like it, though.

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07/17/2010 9:09 PM

Please don't tell me that skunk behaviorist is a college degree. And they wonder why they can't get high paying jobs. I just read recently that postal delivery people make $70,000 a year, including benefits. I definitely missed the boat somewhere. And then again.............maybe not.

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07/17/2010 10:59 PM

I can verify the tomato juice. I had a samoyed that was a skunk and porcupine junkie... and I've used that tomato juice (2 gallons min) and it works. mostly

stupid dog.. beautiful, intelligent, friendly, loyal, runs like the wind, and dumb as a friggin' post when it comes to skunks and porcupines.

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07/19/2010 10:00 AM

I concur, tomato juice. Went through this two weeks ago with my Shepard.

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07/18/2010 3:03 PM

They may swear by it, but it won't work. The pH is wrong. Milo

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07/17/2010 11:49 PM

Two suggestions-

One based on input from a refrigerator manufacturer (and used successfully by us) when a refrigerator door was accidentally closed in a mobile home being shipped (and then sitting for a WARM (hot) week until we could get back in.

KITTY LITTER (can be the cheap, simple stuff OR the "enhanced" versions- we used the cheep stuff- spread in a 1/2" deep tray (or multiple trays) placed around you home. Use some fans to keep air moving over the trays and throughout the house. Take about 2 days for full effect.

Second option (or use both) is used coffee grounds. Saw this on a foodie show on PBS- The used grounds (in an open tray) apparently do a similar deal as the kitty litter- The recommendation for the coffee grounds was for the refrigerator as well- although this time is was just a way to clean up miscellaneous food odors.

What the hell- use them both- Whether you stay in the home or spend a weekend at the beach / golf course / Disneyland / whatever is up to you.

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07/19/2010 8:42 AM

Kitty litter in little boxes around the house works great right after you paint or put new carpeting in. It removes a good portion of the chemical smells.

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07/18/2010 12:38 AM

the GSD is one, if not the most intelligent animals on the planet......They have a specific training( which never includes Skunks ), and to here about your story puzzles me.(is this a mix or pure dog?0 You have what the professionals call a red zone dog, and must be addressed immediately................... With the correct procedures your dog will not do this any more, and he will thank you with licks forever after. Dogs demand that we be their pack leaders, and we would never let one of ours, do that. Another thing that may be happening is your GSD is not getting enough exercise. I saw the coolest bike yesterday, it was built for a young family of four and their dog. It powered a generator, and it had a treadmill for the dog. What a concept. Tomato juice, and cat litter is good, but with a little help you can make sure that YOU BECOME HIS PACk LEADER, and enjoy all the benifits of life within the pack.

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07/18/2010 1:16 AM

Nobody has mentioned coffee! Fresh roasted and ground coffee can cover lots of odors...

Just sprinkle it around in areas that won't stain or put trays of it around the house....

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07/18/2010 1:17 AM

I have two shepherds myself, the German one names "Drauszen" (out) and the other one is a Malineois (a Belgian shepherd from Mechelen = Malines in French).

But I never had a skunk problem with them.

Once I went on vacation and forgot to take out 22 pounds of fish out of my little Mazda 323 car in plain Summer. I don't know if the smell after 12 days is comparable with skunk,

but I removed the fish (BTW - the skunk is not in the house anymore?) and opened up everything.

Soaked and brushed with Spic & Span (Ammonia smell) - water, sponge... and the stink was still there. Again...

At last I have put a lot of pine tree branches with needles in it - closed up all the doors and after 3 days in the sun, the pine aroma conquered.

The name of the Belgian shepherd is "Binnen" (in).

If you are close to pines it is worth a shot.

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07/18/2010 1:48 AM

might not hurt to try some unscented fabreze either.

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07/18/2010 2:34 AM

I opened a compartment that has been accidentally closed during a two week stretch of 100° weather to find a case of prime rib 55lbs had been left inside, peeeuuuw!

And I found a half pallet of fish too eeeyuck!

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07/18/2010 3:31 AM

Hello, fellow German Shepherd afficianado. My mother used to own a petgroomming buisness for many many years and well I am not sure if it is still around but they used to sell, are you ready for this, concentrated masengil douche! It worked better than commercial agents and is super gentle and safe. I would run it through my carpet shampooer in a pretty strong mix. Also oxi clean diluted seams to work pretty good if given time depending on the surface. But douche concentrate was it back in the day our shop had bottles of it. Good luck with your stinky sheperd, I miss mine like crazy, he passed last year almost blind, kinda hard of hearing, and grey all over but he could still open and close a door to let him self out, devour an intruder and could talk up until about the very end. Our Samson is greatly missed.

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07/18/2010 8:58 AM

No idea how strong skunks stink - never had to get this experience here in Europe.

But after a fire in our house the fire brigade gave a hint to dispense "vanilized sugar" (form a bakery supply store) all over the place - 40lbs for around 1000 sqf at a low price - made a good job and the smelll was gone with in two days. Just vaccum afterwards and throw the bag far far away...

Might be that helps also again skunks...

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07/18/2010 12:39 PM

I am truly sorry, my friend, that you have never been exposed to this incredible aroma. Certainly an encounter with one of North America's most beloved species is an experience of a lifetime.

A full fusillade from a skunk's scent glands can be smelled for more than a kilometer away, especially on a hot summer night when all the bedroom windows are open. Closer, the smell is intolerable. A direct hit, their effective range is 4 to 5 meters, is immediately crippling to both man and beast. Pepper spray is mild in comparison. When a skunk turns his back on you and raises his hind legs, it's too late.

Needless to say, armed with this devastating defensive weapon, skunks are fearless. Most predators either instinctively, or quickly learn to avoid them. The presence of humans does not bother them a bit. While their primary diet is insect grubs, they love our garbage. Worse, they are carriers of Rabies. While normally passive, in the later stages of the infection, a rabid skunk will aggressively attack anything that it encounters, pets and humans included.

I am not a chemist, but from what I have been able to find out (Google "skunk spray") there is a specific molecule responsible for the noxious odor, and even with our week sense of smell, we can detect it in concentrations of parts per billion. It is oil soluble (the skunk's musk is an oil) and very stable. Washing with soap and water does not neutralize it; this just spreads the smell around.

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07/18/2010 2:59 PM

they say after awhile you don't notice the smell.....but that doesnt change the issue.

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07/18/2010 6:57 PM

Try heating your home.

I once had a neighbor use an excessive amount of herbicide (about 100% recommended levels) which triggered a severe allergic reaction in my spouse. It was summer and it was found that the chemical was in the duct work etc.. So I turned off the air conditioning, turned on the heat to about 105F then after the house had heated up opened the doors and windows. A couple of times of this and it cleared.

If the smell is in the carpet and the heat doesn't work then find a cleaning product that is good at removing perfumes or strong smells and compatible with carpets. Then clean away. Try the heat first though

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07/18/2010 9:36 PM

Shouldn't your post be named "Skunked House"? Considering the dog is bathed and hopefully De-skunked.

Anyway, use an alcohol based cleaning fluid for floors and windows etc. All that you can wipe with it. A good excuse for spring cleaning eh?

Also, let as much sun in as possible. An old granny's trick. dunno if it works.

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07/19/2010 8:36 AM

This is what my wife and I have done after our yellow lab was skunked twice. It's from the following web-site:

http://www.skunkodorgone.com/

This is for the house:

Gretchen Messersmith's Skunk Odor Removal Update

Monday, July 19, 2010

Home Sweet (Smelling) Home
Making A House Smell Like Home Again After A Skunk Encounter

Reclaiming a house after a bad run in with a skunk is likely to rank high on a personal to-do list. The process to fully eradicate odors from a house can be a little tedious, but if the right steps are not taken, chances are a house will smell like a skunk moved in for quite some time to come.

Considering the strength of skunk spray odor, it is rather wise to take a fairly pointed and systematic approach to the cleaning process. Where to start and where to go from there can make all the difference in the world.

Cover The Emergency Bases First

Whether it's a pet that got sprayed or a person, taking care of the walking contaminated first is a very good place to start - right after making sure any central heating or air is turned off to make sure the odor doesn't permeate the entire house!

With the air turned off, the next steps to take include:

  • Isolating the contaminated pet or person. If it's a dog and the weather is right, consider washing it outside. Otherwise, contain a person, cat or dog in a bathroom that has had fabric items removed. Take up the rugs, the "company towels" and so on to prevent anything else from picking up the smell.
  • Bagging up or immediately putting contaminated clothing into a wash on its own.
  • Selecting a cleanser (vinegar, clear drinking sodas, a professional product or so on) and wash the person or animal thoroughly. A few soaks might have to come into play for total removal. Don't stop this process until the odor has been fully or almost fully removed.

Getting The Rest Of The House

Once the living creature(s) have been squared away, it's time to move onto the rest of the house. The things to check and take care of to ensure a smell that doesn't linger include:

  • Changing air filters. If the air was on even briefly, it is not a bad idea to change filters for AC system before turning it back on. Special scented or odor neutralizing filters are not a bad idea to consider in this case.
  • Fully scrubbing fabrics. Wash carpeting, furniture and other items that came into contact with the odors. A baking soda or soap and vinegar wash should help here.
  • Washing clothing and contaminated linens. Baking soda, vinegar, peroxide and even bleach in the water can help with the odor removal. Keep washing if the odor doesn't come out on the first try, but do not dry the laundry until it does. If the clothes go in the dryer, removing the scents later might be very difficult. Plus, it's possible the dryer will take on the odor.
  • Consider specialty products. If everything has been scrubbed down, sprayed with odor neutralizer products and the smell lingers, consider professional cleaning agents to handle the job.

Getting skunk odors out of a house is no walk in the park. If the scent has made it through the house, a room-by-room inspection and scrub down might be in order. If it hasn't, take action to get your home smelling sweet once again!

For the dog we used this product.

Skunk-be-gone shampoo worked great after two washings no more scent. Only problem was that he also got it in the mouth and nose area and there is nothing for that. Took over a month to finally go away.

We did try mint scent dog treats, but he ended up with skunky mint scented breath.

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07/19/2010 9:39 AM

Sounds like your dog is pretty territory and protective where's there are skunks, there are porcupines......have any experience with those?

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No porcupines they are located further north of us. They are hunting dogs so I field train them a lot. The one that gets skunked is really into ground hogs. I usually end up with two or three a week on my back porch, with their necks broken.

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07/24/2010 9:30 AM

Of course, it's a pit bull.

A vet sedated the dog and then

removed a total of 1,347 quills.

The dog survived and has, hopefully,

learned a valuable lesson.

Now, tell me you had a bad day !!

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pictures didn't come through for me.

But coming off the farm, our cow dog would have run ins from time to time. We had a border collie only have to do it once. but our best cow dogs we ever had were austrailian shepards. One dog was so bad...we always removed the quills ourselves, but this one was so bad. the dog would just about pass out. It cried but knew we were helping him and would come back so we could finish the job pulling quills. thought we had them all and about 4 weeks later one quill worked itself from the roof of the mouth? and came out the near the bridge of its snout.

Ace, the dog in my avatar. while I visited my dad and I was taking stuff into the house snuck out... hour later wonder were he was. called him and he peeked around the corner of one of the farm buildings. I called him and he came running looked like a cigerette hanging from his mouth. Nope a quill. My brother shot one that morning and Ace found it. Wasn't deep.

Have to keep an eye out for ace because we had nesting eagles....at 10 pounds he's too easy a snack for them raptors.

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07/24/2010 2:44 PM

Dang. This dog's face is completely covered. You can't even tell it's a dog.

I'll try again.

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wait....I think I can see it....turn the antenna back allittle......nope I thought I saw it...but I was wrong.

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PM your e-mail address to me. I'll forward the original e-mail my wife sent me.

I couldn't believe it.

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07/24/2010 4:16 PM

OMG......I'll give this a try.......I emailed my sister this who works at a vets office and told her I found her dog.......his dog tags says he goes by the name of "Cactus Jack"

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Re: Skunked dog

07/24/2010 2:52 PM

I don't know if cr4 policies changed regarding pasted pictures from the net, but this started happening about a month or two ago... so I've discovered that if you open Paint, paste in the net pic, and then save to your HD, then use the green camera icon in in your cr4 editor, that it doesn't happen. If it iwas one of your own pics.. I dunno.

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07/24/2010 2:56 PM

No, my wife forwarded it to me from one of her friends.

I'll play around with it.

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07/19/2010 5:54 PM

Just remember that any skunk out in the daytime is almost certainly rabid, and a dog killing a rabid skunk is probably going to get rabies too, if you don't get her treated.

Skunks at night may be rabid, but not quite so often.

If you are exposed to a dog that has been exposed to a rabid skunk, you are at risk.

Only two people (last time I counted) have ever recovered from rabies.

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07/21/2010 8:11 AM

That would be a good topics.

About 10 years ago, one of those recovered was a teenage girl in FonDuLac, Oshkosh, Wiconsin. She was biten by a bat, she did not fully recover, she had control issues, so recovered is a term used loosly.

How she did it, they did was induce a coma in her, totally experimental. Interesting article.

I guess there were (6) that survived rabies infections.

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07/24/2010 6:09 AM

You will find this very interesting:

http://www.drbuttar.com/blog/?tag=hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy

Repeated treatments of ozone therapy are usually needed, because certain viruses and fungi are more susceptible at certain stages of their development. Some micro-organisms are much more resistant than others, and will require more treatment. The viruses that contain lipids are more sensitive to deactivation by ozone – Herpes, Mumps, Measles, Influenza, Rabies, HIV and the Chronic Fatigue producing viruses: Epstein Barr, Coxsackie and Cytomegalovirus.

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