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Flite Positive Wheel Balances

08/28/2010 4:19 PM

the original ? was about a safe flight bubble type wheel ballencer please excuse me it is a flite positive wheel balencer model #772-a made by dynamic engineering inc Lawenceville ga please if any one can tell me more about this unit and no it is not a typeical center bubble type ballencer it has three arms and couterweight measerments any info would be very helpful here is a pic of the ballencer

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08/29/2010 12:08 AM
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08/29/2010 12:49 AM

some more pictures please of different angles

also close up of name plate

http://wheelbalancer.newjerseyshorecast.com/wheelbubblebalancer/

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08/29/2010 8:12 AM
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08/29/2010 12:18 PM

as you can see i have added some more pics

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08/30/2010 10:35 PM

If you search utility patents, you will find descriptions of balancers like this one that can approximately dynamically balance a wheel, without having to spin it at high speed. Patent number 2334991 is one.

On your unit, one scale indicates the amount of weight to add to the up side of the rim, and the other indicates the amount to add to the down side. The mechanic would have to follow some routine to discriminate static imbalance from dynamic imbalance.

The Rudham method for statically approximating a correction for dynamic imbalance is described in patent 3877315. I'd guess your unit would have to use a similar technique. Maybe you could play around with a wheel that you weight so that it is statically balanced (i.e., so that if it were mounted on a low friction hub there would be no apparent heavy spot) and deliberately make the dynamic balance poor (with five ounces on the outer rim, and 5 ounces diagonally opposite on the inner rim). Then you'd put this on your machine and play around with it to see if you can detect and cure the dynamic imbalance.

The scale, going all the way up to ten ounces, suggests that the precision might not have been very high. As you may know, the unit could have some value as an antique, but would have little value as a working tool -- modern spin balancers are fast and accurate.

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08/31/2010 8:42 AM

i wanted to say thank you that was the best aswer yet and makes the most sense and confirms my thoughts about this device

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08/31/2010 3:49 PM

I agree with wizardlockman, and vote this comment a GA. Well done.

In particular your comment "...the unit could have some value as an antique, but would have little value as a working tool.." This is the true end-all.

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09/01/2010 8:11 AM

you know if someone actully new how to use this device in witch case none of you do it do have a value as a working tool as it is i almost have figured it out and it is a dynamic bubble balencer with out the spin and becouse it dont have a cover makes it great for large tires also i think you guys are all fools for not reconizeing its potential lets see you spin a 36 or 42 in tire on something newer and a mechanic for over 25 years and working with tires you morons should relize this

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09/01/2010 5:39 PM

Well...

"...it is a dynamic bubble balencer with out the spin..." The definition of dynamic balance includes rotation. Without rotation (spin), you have static balance. So, you really do not have it figured out.

I do hope you have enjoyed the wizardlockman version of What's My Line. You have stumped the panel. I also hope this is the most difficult issue you will have to deal with, as I doubt you can count on the assistance of the community from here forward... Oh, yeah, we're just a bunch of fools and morons anyway, so not a big problem.

And in closing, an observation: Your spelling and grammar are atrocious, and your punctuation is non-existent.

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09/02/2010 3:36 PM

for one thing i did not know i was back in school so if you dont like my spellling or grammer or whatever get a life and as for the balencer i know dynamic is spinning what i meant is that this balencer balences both sides of the wheel not just one side as a typicle bubble balencer then as for as coming back to this site probaly never the info you guys have given me so far are not even close to what this machine does or can do and to redirect me to a older dynamic balencer for info on how to use whats up with that and for when it was built actuly it was built pre 1955 not later as you guys sugest so who is steering who wrong and you guys down me and say im stupid get real oh and thank you for all the worthlesss info

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08/29/2010 1:03 AM

ive searched for the company you supplied and cannot find any listing, nor can i find any listing for the make and model.

hopefully somone will recognise it good luck.

but some more pictures would i feel help

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08/30/2010 9:20 AM

Are you sure it is a wheel balancing device? The name and the appearance suggest it is a tool for balancing aircraft propellers. The overall shape looks like it is used for balancing 3-blade propellers.

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08/30/2010 1:12 PM

yes i am sure i did a patent nuber search and found it was made in 1955 by Wilbur C Rexroat who made several diferent wheel balencers in the 50s and 60s and truck wheel balencers but thats all i could find i still need to know how to use it oh and the patent # is D181107 but not much info at patent office other then design and when filed

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08/30/2010 12:05 PM

sorry couldnt help, no need to gloat over it though, you need to leave it on here for a while longer and give everyone a chance to view it.

oh and stop keep posting different times as it stops people keeping up with the original thread.

youve posted the same question 5 times all it does is split the answers

http://cr4.globalspec.com/search/sitesearch?do=show&us=40983&srchobjs=t,be,c

have you tried asking on some of the motoring sites ?

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08/30/2010 1:14 PM

sorry did not know it posted that many times and yes ive been trying any site i can find to ask ?? on but not much luck its hard geting on to other site to ask ?? if you can recomend any i listening

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08/30/2010 8:16 PM

Now it's obvious. The thumb screws at the bottom are adjusted until the bubble is in the center of the circle. The readings will dictate the weights to be placed on the rim to balance the assembly.

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08/31/2010 8:38 AM

you know i thought about that only one problem one skcew is for the bottom of wheel one is for the top the we have the issiue of where or what to alighn the arrow between the two to

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