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10/22/2010 12:45 PM

Where does the term Cowboy worker originate, being that real cowboys are hard working cattle Herder's.

What is the connection.

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10/22/2010 1:02 PM

First I heard the term used was in your earlier post here on CR4.

Now you want us to tell you what we think it means.

Why would you use a term in a forum without first fully understanding the meaning of same?

By your own words, you have shown a lack of credibility.

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10/22/2010 1:17 PM

Don' hide behind your guest appearance and slate me, there two different things.

One is about regulation, and we all know in the U.K what a cowboy is.

And one is about the origin of the term cowboy, completely unrelated questions.

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10/22/2010 1:36 PM

Agreed - guest is playing the part of an jackass quite well! Maybe a cowboy rode him a bit hard?

Cowboys have earned a bit of a reputation for being wild - some of it earned and correct. Spend time out on the range and when coming to town to blow the paycheck things sometimes got out of hand. They were quite often loners as well.

Calling someone that has nothing to do with cattle a cowboy is generally a bit of an insult.

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10/22/2010 5:04 PM

Jackass?

First I heard the term used was in your earlier post here on CR4.

Now you want us to tell you what we think it means.

Why would you use a term in a forum without first fully understanding the meaning of same?

By your own words, you have shown a lack of credibility.

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10/22/2010 5:20 PM

Wow... are you feeling neglected and alone?

From the OP: "Where does the term Cowboy worker originate..."

Asking the etymology of the phrase, not the definition. Sheesh, give it a rest.

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10/22/2010 8:03 PM

Nice! That took a lot of thought... and effort!

Let me ask you a question. Are you a registered member posting anonymously or are you a genuine Guest? My guess is the latter.

Do you have a purpose for being here, other than being irritating and a waste of bandwidth?

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10/22/2010 8:16 PM

Hi russ123,

GA.

I have just about "had it" with Guests. I actually read and enjoy the posts of some of them, but if we have to endure this irritating, ungrounded drivel, I say we should only allow members to join in this forum.

What say you?

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10/23/2010 1:22 AM

Hi Mike,

I agree - There are few forums (that amount to anything) that permit more than comments on articles by unregistered guests. I understand the meaning of jackass quite well. I think the guest is confusing that with the jackass TV crap you see now - meaning they have no idea of the word except pop culture.

A few require both first and last name to be used to identify one - a more personal connection.

Sometimes a poster will use guest and finish the post with their name. Polite of them.

I guess this guy just took exception to using his personal identifier in a more general way.

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10/23/2010 10:02 AM

It's not our forum, so if guests are allowed by Admin. we just have to live with their childish ignorance.

If it were my forum, guests would not be allowed. If you can't put forth the effort to register you must not have much to contribute. By the same token, why waste time helping people solve their problems, if they refuse to register?

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10/23/2010 5:11 PM

Dub. GA, I too get a little ticked off by "Guests" hiding and trying to "Have a go". no brains and nothing better to do! I'm with you!

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10/22/2010 1:42 PM

Here is an excerpt from this article in Wiki:

In English-speaking regions outside North America, such as the British Isles and Australasia, "cowboy" can refer to a tradesmen whose work is of shoddy and questionable value, e.g., "a cowboy plumber". Similar usage is seen in the United States to describe someone in the skilled trades who operates without proper training or licenses. In the eastern United States, "cowboy" as a noun is sometimes used to describe a fast or careless driver on the highway.

I, as well, have not heard of a cowboy worker... now I know! Regarding the etymology of the phase, I just do not know.

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10/22/2010 3:07 PM

Merriam-Webster Collegiate dictionaries are usually good with etymologies. I don't have one handy, though.

This probably originated in the American West in the 1800s. "Cattle herder" is an accurate description, but virtually nobody uses the term.

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10/22/2010 3:39 PM

I've always considered the term to mean self-sufficient, independent, rugged.

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10/22/2010 6:59 PM

I think the original term is "cowhand"

Noun

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cowhand - a hired hand who tends cattle and performs other duties on horsebackcowboy, cowherd, cowman, cowpoke, cowpuncher, puncher, cattlemanbuckaroo, buckeroo, vaquero - local names for a cowboy (`vaquero' is used especially in southwestern and central Texas and `buckaroo' is used especially in California)cowgirl - a woman cowboygaucho - a cowboy of the South American pampashorse wrangler, wrangler - a cowboy who takes care of the saddle horsesranch hand - a hired hand on a ranchroper - a cowboy who uses a lasso to rope cattle or horses

And 'cowboy' came from their irresponsible/juvenile antics in town "letting off steam'.

But obviously the term is blurred and which meaning is largely on context.

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10/23/2010 5:16 PM

In the UK... the term "Cowboy workers" came about because they would "ride in" take your money and "ride out".

Robbers would have been a better term to use!

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10/23/2010 5:21 PM

Those are "job shoppers" in the USA.

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10/23/2010 5:24 PM

LOL.. thanks for the update!

No matter which continent, whatever the phrasing, it still means the same.

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