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SS Fasteners and Galling !!

10/23/2010 3:52 PM

I had previous thread in this forum regarding the galling for SS Anchor bolts and nuts and how to prevent the galling ... I asked one of my friends and he told me that the best way is to use SS Anchors with brass nuts .. does any of you have an idea about this recommendation , and whatwhat is the standard of brass that we can use for the nut .. I need your advice and ASAP as I need to finalise this issue very soon .. Thanks

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Re: SS Fasteners and Galling !!

10/23/2010 6:36 PM

You're NUTs. Brass will have stripped long before the SS anchors even think of taking the down load.

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Re: SS Fasteners and Galling !!

10/23/2010 7:24 PM

Banu....

Your problem is that you are determined to use stainless steel for anchorage and that you subscribe to a "what do you think" engineering, rater than research and reason. The opinion of your friend is worthless

The previous post is correct as it states that the brass nuts will strip under load. Matching a high tensile strength bolt (stainless) with a low strength nut is folly. You have conquered galling at the price of a poor connection.

Here is a wild idea...... try GOOGLE. It seems that noone in the third world knows how to use this tool.

Look at the website for Anchor Fasteners in Massachusetts. They recommend the liberal use of moly-disulfide lubricant and the use of stud-nut combination with significantly different hardnesses.

Or you could be smart and use a galvanized stud-nut combination. Acceptable for use in potable water service.

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Re: SS Fasteners and Galling !!

10/23/2010 11:15 PM

You might try Gall-Tough.

Silicon bronze (or aluminum bronze) nuts are also sometimes used to prevent galling with stainless. Is there some reason why you can not use anti-seize compound?

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Re: SS Fasteners and Galling !!

10/23/2010 11:36 PM

Never-Seize and Fel-Pro both make anti-sieze compounds specifically for the use with stainless steel. There are several other manufacturers out there that make this type of product.

Stick to the stainless nuts! The use of brass nuts, besides brass being much softer, will still be a problem since the brass will eventually form an oxide in all but ideal conditions.

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Re: SS Fasteners and Galling !!

10/24/2010 12:39 AM

QUICK FIX: ANTI-SIEZE COMPOUND.

Do it!

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Re: SS Fasteners and Galling !!

10/25/2010 8:39 AM

It is generally accepted that if you ensure there is a difference in hardness between the two components, galling will not occur.

A few things to think about.

Do you need stainless. A lot of anchor bolts into concrete are carbon steel. Leave the part in the concrete to rust a bit to improve its keying-in properties.

If stainless is used, I have used 410 nuts with 316 bolts (for high temp applications) and this works.

Some people use higher strength nuts (increased hardness is usually accompanied by increased strength)

The other method we used - clumsy but practical - was to use a nut splitter or grinder to remove the nuts at a service and relace the nuts (and the bolts if necessary). This is only good if you have access to the bolt.

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Re: SS Fasteners and Galling !!

10/25/2010 4:40 PM

Ask your friend if you can borrow a pair of his "brass nuts" !!!

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Re: SS Fasteners and Galling !!

10/26/2010 2:30 PM

In a previous job I had in the nuclear industry, this was a common problem, particularly with remote handling equipment. At one time the solution was to use aluminium bronze but in later years Nitronic 60 (UNS S21800) was used as the nut (sometimes with a solid lubricant such as graphite or molybdenum disulphide).

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