Turkey Day

Nice post... made me think of Romans 1:21

I was thinking more along the lines of Hugh Heffner and friends!

Now that sounds far more attractive (except for the silicone poisoning!!)

Remember each to his own in this world......surely you are a Turkey man on Thanksgiving Day, like 85% of US citizens? Or maybe not?

I still prefer our harvest festivals due to the importance of the role children usually play in the church service and what an pleasant influence it had on me as a kid.......I look back most fondly on such times as those.....

......but if you never experienced it or your religion does not allow it, well bad luck. You will never miss what you never had......

May your God go with you.

Grew up in Oregon and now have dual citizenship.

Gave up on the religious stuff when I was 15 - over 50 years past so I fit in most anywhere.

I am perfectly happy for those that believe in whatever God they choose - just don't care to hear about it.

In a blog, you vote with your eyes - don't like it, stop reading!!

Don't like the TV program, switch channels or switch off.....simple!

Well, during the WW1, the Turkish Muslims slaughtered 1.5 Million Armenian by chopping off their necks ,in few weeks, in the largest massacre in the history.

The reason is : Armenians are Christians and not Muslims.

That is true, though the Christianity's original place was Turkey (during st.Paul time) and from there spread-ed to all over Europe, but later all churches in Turkey destroyed by Muslims and converted to mosques and until now they don't allow any church to be built there ,and the few Christians left there suffer from a great prosecution and many of them being killed just because they are Christians.

That is the situation in all Muslim countries.

@ Guest - you are repeating Armenian propaganda having little or no idea of anything that happened.

That bunch seems to have no other claim to fame except whining and crying.

Are you one of the whiners?

You have a very wide paintbrush - you need to learn a little more before posting such garbage.

Russ

That is not propaganda it is true, I'm from the middle east where hundred of thousands of Armenians escaped from the Turkish Muslims massacres and came to Syria,Lebanon,Egypt,Iraq,Palestine and other countries in the middle east and around all over the world at that time and millions of their relatives ware killed by Muslim turks in Armenia.

Turkey denies but it is true and you can't change the facts ,that is the Muslims behavior any where they are.

You are simply spreading propaganda.

You can be from where ever you chose but BS is BS.

I reported the previous posts and will do so again.

Why don't you all get a life?

Well,two weeks ago Muslim terrorists attacked Church in Iraq and killed 53 people in the Church,and they did the same thing in Egypt this week,do you watch the news?

Should they have got more? What are your complaints? Did you know anyone personally?

Religion is the cause of more killings than you can count. All religions are horrible in that regard with Rome having the lead.

You should stay away from Fox news - fair & balanced reporting!

I think I hear your mommy calling - something about your bottle being ready.

I'm outta here -

Fox News is the most reliable and trusted station in US and tell the truth because it is not corrupted station like others receiving bribes from oil Prince's in the middle east.

Good riddance.

Why don't you "get a life".

You are showing a startling ignorance of welknown and properly documented facts......that does not happen very often here on CR4......you stick out like a sore thumb....

You should read up your history, it is sadly very true.......

If you are in anyway Muslim or Turkish related, you may have been brought up to not believe this, that is not your fault, but it still does not change history for the rest of the world Russ123......sorry.

Try reading the following book:-

The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey: A Disputed Genocide (Utah Series in Turkish and Islamic Studies)

Or for a quick online update please read:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

There is a good link about the War between the two and the dozens of treaties, many broken by the Turks, at this site:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish%E2%80%93Armenian_War

This is not fantasy or anything like that, it REALLY REALLY HAPPENED!!!!

Saying it didn't does not change facts......

If you need any further help, just ask, there is a wealth of material available.

Recently, the BBC in the UK ran several programs on this very subject with old film footage and many pictures and facts.......

Russia under communist rule (mostly Stalin) rewrote the history books to show a better side (completely untrue, according to them they "invented" everything first!!) of communism, but it still does not change the fact that they have slaughtered at least as many of their own people quietly, than were killed officially in both wars.....

Estimates are from between 20-30 Million in total.

See here:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin#Purges_and_deportations

Mao did similar things, I have sailed through the sea off China in the 60's where there were dead bodies from horizon to horizon, all Chinese. With dead sharks between them, dead from overeating it was believed....or the lead from bullets maybe, who knows.....

Most of the bodies were drowned as far as we could tell, just had their hands tied behind their backs and thrown into rivers/sea to die......who wants to waste expensive bullets!!!!

Neither the cowardly British, French or the US governments of the time ever publicized it......

See here:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong

He is credited with killing between 40-70 Million OF HS OWN PEOPLE!!!

I think Hitler deserves to be mentioned, but the documentation of that is so good and complete, I hardly think that I need to post links. But there are still a few people around who try and say that the Holocaust did not happen......but its only cranks and some Catholic priests mostly......

Its probably not a good subject to discuss on CR4, but that still does not make it untrue.......

@ Andy - I have read much on the topic. Born and grew up in the US - only made the Turkish connection 12 years back.

Things happen during times of war. I believe that the Armenians connected with the Russians in an attempt to expand their sphere of influence (size of their homeland) and it did not come out well for them. As many or more Turks were killed. The Greeks invaded the other side of the country and that didn't come out so well either. When their troops returned home some politicians and military were executed for the folly. The Armenians should have done the same.

To cry and kick their feet 90 years later is a bit much.

In the US I am not apologizing to anyone for slavery - I never had any and had nothing to do with it.

In Turkey I am not apologizing for anything done during a civil war that happened 90 years back.

The Armenians are among the worlds greatest whiners when it comes to this.

The Turkish Ottoman's empire at that time was the leader of Muslim countries ,and they actually did their massacres by the name of Islam ,so they invaded and occupied and killed the other nations to spread the Islam by force.

The same thing been done by early Muslim invaders from Saudi Arabia in all middle east and north African countries ,where similar massacres ware committed against the original Christian natives .

So, Turkey didn't commit strange things, that the Muslims history since 1430 years ago and up to now , but russ123 uses what is called in islam "TAKIA" which allows muslims to deceive the others by saying lies to cover up.

WHY DON'T YOU PEOPLE START YOUR OWN THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU'VE MANAGED TO PERVERT WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A FRIENDLY HOLIDAY GREETING. SHAME ON YOU!

Sorry bout that

I am really not interested in what the fool has to say.

Enough said!

Which simply explains why you are not listening to your own posts.......

You really buy all the garbage stories you can find don't you.

I believe I said there were many people on all sides killed during the Armenian conflict. Peasants of both sides were wiped out without a second thought it sounds like. If you were in the wrong place it was quite unhealthy!

None of the religious groups have any room to talk - each one is more bloody than the next.

Get a life!

Guest (who doesn't have the gonads to sign in) knows Fox News history quite well!

Sadly very, very true.

I have both Armenian and Turkish friends here in Germany. I cannot have them over at the same time.....

The Turks are still unreasonable (mildly said) over the Armenians.....the Armenians still react badly......understandardly.....

Oh, you have GOT to be kidding me!

A peaceful and serene discussion, and you have to blow it. A time for reflection, introspection, setting aside cultural and political differences... and you smite the hand extending the laurel wreath of brotherhood.

Maybe I should reconsider my posture regarding non-members commenting on CR4.

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[edit] I see you were not done at #32. <sigh> LynDoor™ Industries is developing an internet forum filter, capable of detecting anyone with an axe to grind. I regret it is not available as of yet. I will provide one to GlobalSpec free of charge when it is.

I have to dissagree on that point strongly.......