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01/10/2011 7:46 PM

why dont we use petrol in C.I engine and Diesel in S.I engine?. pls list me the points for dont..

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01/10/2011 8:42 PM

Everything you just said is a point for don't. Don't know C.I from S.I from a hole in the ground.

Rule #75.

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01/10/2011 9:56 PM

why dont we use is my question, and i need the perfect reasons for it..

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01/10/2011 10:28 PM

C.I engine and Diesel in S.I engine?

What are they? Why don't you use the English language? I don't need a perfect answer just an explanation of what the above are. Try and not be rude

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01/12/2011 3:02 PM

Dear lynlynch we aren't all Americans or Britons some of us try to express themselves with a non perfect English language . but they try as they can.

can you forgive language mistakes . to encourage him better than leaving him feeling foil

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01/11/2011 1:44 AM

C.I. = compression ignition → diesel and similar oils
S.I. = spark ignition → petrol and some gases

This might be an amusing project for self study. Get one of each and try the opposite kinds of fuel in them. (Stand at a safe distance?) Submit report and/or share results on You-Tube. (I gotta remember that next time someone asks for a project!)

See also this: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_do_you_do_if_diesel_was_put_in_your_car_and_it_has_a_gasoline_engine

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01/11/2011 12:24 PM

petrol in diesel engine C.I

high compression ratio for diesel engine will leads to pre ignition for petrol also flash will start in different points in same time , different pressure waves will interfered together inside combustion champers causing some thing called detonation which is a strong hammering upon pistons and cylinder head.

Finlay a serious damage will occurr for engine.

Diesel in petrol engine

because of petrol engine has a low compression ratio, diesel will not will not reach for it's self ignition temperature and fuel willl not ignited

engine will not start

I hope it's your answer

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02/01/2011 9:20 PM

Thank you man, this is the answer am expecting.

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01/11/2011 7:47 PM

The ci engine ignite its fuel by heat of the air after compression.

if you spray petrol into a ci engine it explodes to quickly and alters the timing in fact its so bad on some ci engines they wont run on petrol (gasoline for you american types )

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=CI+engines&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8&rlz=1I7GPCK_enGB411&redir_esc=&ei=zPgsTcqtL8mAhQf0qoj7CA

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01/12/2011 8:31 AM

Peter, If one could see inside a diesel engine combustion chamber while the engine is running it would look as if the injector is spraying a flame.......no matter the kind of feul used [As long as it has a burning piont of about 350 degrees C...or less.

The temp. of the compressed air is about 600 degrees at the time when injection starts.

Injection timing is not altered if petrol is injected neather is the flame travelling speed thus there is no "explosion"

BUT because of almost no lubrication to injection system parts it will wear out in no time.

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01/12/2011 8:39 AM

Get a diesel fill it with petrol and try it smart arse

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01/12/2011 2:18 PM

sorry about my last remark , but it sometimes annoys me when people who have no idea what they are talking about, try and tell me i am wrong.

Ive been doing this mechanical stuff almost all my life, and been to so many diesels and petrols with the wrong fuel in to know they WONT run with the wrong fuel in them.

yes the petrol does not provide lubrication but that wont matter as the diesel engine wont run properly anyway

Ive even tried to put contaminated (ie petrol in diesel) into my service van even diluted it was noticeable that the power dropped off

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01/12/2011 6:32 PM

Sorry Peter if if I stepped on a sore toe. I am a diesel pump mechanic; motor mechanic;Auto-electrician; Still rebores engines, did lineboring,conrod resizing;crank grinding; cylinderhead overhauling; [as a matter of fact....all possible repairs on cars,trucks and tractors] I taught motormechanics and auto electrics for 25 years up to Nts 3. Had to write handbooks myself.

Did all experiments that I am talking about. Driven nissan Diesel pick-up on mix of 1:4 engine oil to petrol etc. So I really know what I am talking about. I doubt it if you did all the experiments that I have had the time and means to do.

I am not cross with you for not having done your homework....or calling me names.

I still do not know all that I would like to.....therefor I read CR 4 allthough retired.

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01/12/2011 7:21 PM

so are you seriously saying diesels will run on petrol ?

if so why wont modern diesels run on petrol ?

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01/13/2011 1:21 AM

MODERN......Peter even next years diesel engines will run on petrol providing that you add enough lubricant [say enjin oil].

As a matter of fact diesel engines will start easier, knock less en will last longer if you put up to 10% petrol in the diesel if in very cold weather or if the engine compression is lower than it should be. [Re; diesel locomotives test]

Please read my previous comment about injectors injecting a "flame".

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01/13/2011 2:19 AM

Perhaps the long-departed OP's question is now hard to decipher. Does he mean a little bit of gasoline/petrol in the diesel fuel, or does he mean switching the diesel engine to 100% gasoline/petrol? The effects of these extremes might vary....

But as I said before, just do whatever you want, see what happens, and pass along the word.

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01/15/2011 1:45 AM

Read FAQs, in which it says not to post a new thread without checking for existing threads.

Read the many other threads on this subject here.

Then if you can't understand, use Wikipedia.

Finally, if there is a specific question you have after reading the Wikipedia articles, come here. If you understand what is required of a diesel fuel and what is required of petrol, then you will understand why you don't switch the fuels around.

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01/28/2011 11:14 AM

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