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RFID Logon

01/27/2011 2:23 PM

Hello, I have bought an RFID reader from ebay and it shows up as a HID keyboard. Is there any logon software for xp that will automaticlly enter the username and password when i scan a tag? It just produces an 8 digit number and simulates the enter key.

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01/27/2011 5:08 PM

Have you ever heard the simple phrase, "buyer beware"?

Allow me to paraphrase your scenario and question to give you my perspective of your predicament. You've bought a probably used piece of hardware from somebody, somewhere on this planet through E-bay. You did not get any software for any computer platform but you now recognize that you will require some type of driver or other software platform to work on the now obsoleted but still very proprietary Windows XP platform that you are still using. You cannot tell us who manufactured this piece of hardware because there's no manufacturers name on it. Possibly you can read the manufacturer's name and model number and tried to have them help you but they refused for one of a variety of reasons. So you've decided to ask if any of us can solve your problem because you've heard that there are many bright people here that help others in their projects.

I think that sums it up. Except, you've not demonstrated to us at all that you are capable of doing your own electronic communications and software project. For starters you've not identified the interface that this mystery part is but given us the unidentified acronym "HID keyboard." Now likely this Human Interface Device connects to a computer through a USB connection and it likely does conform to the USB-HIB standard protocols, but my point is that it appears that I had to tell you this. You've also failed to show us that you have any programming experience because you've not mentioned any programming language that you are familiar with. We don't know if you can program in LISP, COBOL, ALGOL, C, C++, C#, Python, Java, Visual Basic, LabView, or any other arcane programming language. So it appears to me that you want us to provide you with a complete operating software package for a mysterious piece of hardware.

My apologies for being a little harsh here but you have not helped yourself with your question. Sorry, but I cannot help you with the information that you've provided. Maybe somebody else here can.

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01/27/2011 5:19 PM

Hello, Sorry I have not mentioned that. I have no programming expierence. This is actually my first post on this fourm. I was just wondering if there was some piece of software that if you typed in the number it would enter the username and password. IE: tag number 337454895454545454 : Username : Admin Password Admin For example.

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01/27/2011 6:08 PM

This tag number you refer to...

Is this the number that is printed/stamped onto the HID card? If yes, that is called the hotstamp, and there is (there used to be anyway, have not used for three or four years) an online converter for this number to actual card value.

Or, are you looking for the identity (username and password) of the person to whom the card was issued? If this is what you are after, it is not available.

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01/27/2011 6:32 PM

You sure know how to slap a bloke down.

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01/27/2011 8:37 PM

I take no pride in that slap down. I do take pride in my work and skill set. I'm just tired of the public perception that only social skills are valuable commodities. I'm tired of seeing people that have no respect for engineering coming here hoping we can solve their problem that they don't understand.

This is supposed to be the Engineer's Place for discussion, not Engineer in a bottle. This thread seems to me to be like a student walking into the teacher's lounge and asking if anyone can do their homework.

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01/28/2011 6:07 AM

Get off your high horse and stop acting like a spoilt brat. As is typical with this forum, people get off by putting others down. You sad sad little person.

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01/28/2011 7:40 AM

I notice that you could not help the OP at all, too. This might be because you could not understand what was written by the OP. You clearly did not understand what I wrote. I take no joy from not helping people.

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01/27/2011 10:19 PM

I have Questions:

  1. What do you mean "it shows up as a HID keyboard"?
  2. Is it a virtual keyboard that is displayed on your computer monitor?
  3. How does this reader interface with your computer (USB, Serial Port, etc.)?

It's really amazing to me that you bought this item with limited knowledge of how the device works.

Didn't you know before buying, that there would be a password issue?

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01/28/2011 12:09 AM

To clarify:-

You want to use the RFID tag to log the bearer of the tag onto the system without having to enter a password. (this is possible but not secure - but that is your choice)

a HID keyboard is a Human Interface Device and will act the same as if the 8 digit number had been entered from the keyboard. (this can serve as a user ID and a password because the number on each tag is unique)

What you need is a data base containing the ID from the RF, User name, password, and some other data like access level etc.

This Can be done in a spreadsheet (very insecure). You really need a program to access encrypted data.

Ask the supplier of the tag . it may be free or cheap.

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01/28/2011 7:24 AM

If all else fails, mainly due to an almost complete lack of information from the OP, he can always sell it on in ebay or similar.....

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01/28/2011 9:48 AM

That is all you get when you scan a card.

In windows, you could run notepad and scan a bunch of cards and get their numbers. The device "looks like" another keyboard so it is identical to you typing it in on the keyboard (without mistakes and backspacing for correction...)

People who normally use these are running some kind of data entry program, and when you get the ID question, you scan your card. Each 8 digit number should be unique. It's up to the data forms programmer to associate any more information to that number.

Or perhaps an embedded engineer uses it to unlock a door/panel with an access control system.

Whatever it is, the reading device has a separate database of information which lists the validity and access permissions of each possible 8-digit number.

But aside from that...

When you say logon, do you mean Some Flavor of Windows? I don't think Windows allows any such software to run "above" the login screen, but I could be wrong.

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01/28/2011 12:06 PM

Hello, Thanks for the replys, Hendrik abd RufusVS understand the concept of it. I knew how it worked before i bought it. At the moment i have my password set as the tag number and i just click my username and swipe the card and it works. But I would prefer if for multiple users I could just scan the users card and log on to that account. Thanks :)

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01/28/2011 1:18 PM

If your software do not allow different users you can create different accounts in windows (or network app) for the users and allocate tag to each.

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