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Schleicher Maschinenbau

02/19/2011 7:41 PM

I recently purchased a machine tool which I cannot identify. The brand is Schleicher Maschinenbau and it is called a D 8192 Geretsried/BRD. It stands about 5 feet high and weighs about 500 pounds (more or less).

It has a massive steel base and the operating portion on top, has 9 drill chucks which appear to be operated by a hydraulic motor which is on the top of the machine.

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02/19/2011 7:54 PM

Got carried away on e-bay? How/why else would one buy an unidentified device, unless it looked pretty cute?

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02/19/2011 9:36 PM

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02/20/2011 10:30 AM

Here are a couple. Thanks for the serious reply, it's a beautiful piece of machinery. I can't help but like old industrial machinery/tools. I found it at an auction and can't stand the idea of it being discarded.

The first pic is the "hydraulic motor" on the top of the machine. The two red hydraulic lines are connected to two lifts on each side which appear to adjust the height of the drill heads. The calibration scale on the left moves the drillheads/motor assembly frontward and backward if you are facing the orange placard.

The second pic is the overall view from the front with the orange placard at the front of the machine. You can see the multiple drillheads in the center of the picture.There is a hydraulic foot pedal down and to the right which must control the insertion/retraction of the drill heads (??).

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02/20/2011 10:33 AM

As you can see from the pictures, I misspelled the manufacturer. To be clear the manufacturer is "Schleicher" NOT "Scheicher".

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02/19/2011 11:20 PM

D 8192 Geretsried/BRD is an address.

Geretsried is a town in the district Bad Tölz-Wolfratshausen, in Bavaria, Germany.

See here for a discussion about the acronym BRD, which may give a bit of a clue about the age.

Look for more ID!

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02/20/2011 12:49 AM

I recently purchased a machine tool which I cannot identify.

Well, why did you buy it then?

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02/20/2011 3:44 AM

look you have alot of money !

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02/20/2011 1:43 PM

It looks like Schleicher is the make of the motor.

The machine looks like a flat bed router.

Like every one else I can't understand why you bought it!

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02/20/2011 10:31 PM

Its a hybrid between a Lathe & a CNC, or it can use it as a boat mooring if nothing else.

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02/20/2011 11:05 PM

Try this for a contact:

Schleicher Maschinenbau und -vertrieb GmbH

Wallensteinstr. 4, 82538 Geretsried, Bayern

Bad Tölz Wolfratshausen, Isartal

T: 08171/5170 F: 08171/51750

http://www.schleicher-maschinen.com

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The link doesn't work for me, but it may work for you. lIf you happen to be in the Bad Toelz area, here is a map of where they are located:

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02/21/2011 12:30 AM

Try http://www.maschinenbau-schleicher.de/ I think you be even more confused when you look at it.

It looks like you've bought 1/3 of a car wash.

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02/21/2011 1:11 AM

I believe that Maschinenbau simply translates as "machine builder". Hydraulic motors were once commonplace on car washes, but fell out of favor after some hoses failed and sprayed cars with hydraulic fluid - I have parts of an American-made one which was replaced for EXACTLY that reason by a county sheriff's department near here, in my back yard (taken for parts, with the main traveling frame becoming a gantry for my engine hoist to hang upon!). I would guess that this motor has been "re-purposed" to drive a specialized machine for drilling the same set of holes into a large number of items, probably for a production run of something. Many parts will likely be reusable for building other devices; bases, tables, guide rails and followers, hydraulic motors, and the control system should yield a LOT of useful stuff. And, yes, I have bought unidentified machines and devices myself for similar reasons to yours, or as a source of parts - and there is one such (but with a known purpose) awaiting cannibalization within 20 feet of the gantry I mentioned earlier.

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02/21/2011 3:09 AM

Schleicher Maschinenbau has been renamed and is now Schleicher Systemtechnik.

see: http://www.schleicher-st.de/

Their main activity is drilling wood, plastics and aluminum for series production.

The high frequency spindles they use are likely from Perschke.

(The name Schleicher is not too rare in Germany so you may find others at different locations that are not linked to each other.)

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02/21/2011 3:24 AM

Maschinenbau is what the firm "Schleicher" does.. Machine builder.

Geretsried is a town near München (Munich) in southern Bayern (Bavaria)

It is likely a machine for a specific use. The photos do not show much. The plate on the motor is unreadable. The two devices with tubing on them may be clamps.

I have seen many unusual machines here in Germany. But one you see them in use, you can see often genius and often.... only questions remain.

can you make some better pics?

http://www.schleicher-st.de/index.html

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02/21/2011 4:10 AM

To OP & JohannesCNC

As Joannes said, take some good pix, send them to him or me by normal email and one of us could contact the company and ask them what it is.....

The pictures posted have lost so much detail that we cannot help......I certainly have never seen one before......not that that means much....

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02/21/2011 4:14 AM

Schleicher produces still produces special drilling machines.

Your machine is (might be) a drilling machine for the side wall of (kitchen) cabinets. Standard sysem kitchen cabinets have side walls with a dimension of 70cm heigh and 60 cm deepth. I can not judge from the phote whether such a piece of wood can fit the machine.

In Europe the side walls of these cabinets have holes to instert 5 or 6mm dia. plugs to carry the shelfes. Moving the pins form hole to hole the customer can adjust shelf height to his requirements. There is a standard 32 mm distance between the holes. The holes are applied in two or three vertical rows. The machine in the picture could be used for this purpose if the chucks have a distance of 32mm (which according the picture provided could be possible)

The wooden part will be inserted into the machine and be adjusted against a stop. The drill head should start operation and the first row of drilled holes should be done 32mm from the edge of the wooden plate which is touching the stop block. This is normally the side wheret he door hinges are located - these follow also the 32mm standard raster and the shelf pin holes are also used to fix the hinges.

As the number of drill heads is 9, it is possible that the machine is a special machine for wall hung cabinets. They have less height and depth (40 to 50 cm heigh) so the shelf adjustment options can be limited

The distance between the two or three rows will be adjustable as the depth of the cabinet will change .

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02/21/2011 5:04 AM

I worked at Ideal Woodworking in Waco Texas during the late 80's. We had several German made woodworking machines used to bore the holes for the wooden dowels that were glued into the adjoining pieces. We build windows and doors out of wood and I kept the machinert running. I believe you have what's called a "spindle borer". Look and see if the adjacent spindles turn the oposite way to the one next to it. We had left and right hand twist bits in the machine, as they were gear driven off the end spindle. They faced each other in two drill assemblies that made holes towords each other when actuated.

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02/21/2011 6:30 AM

Since I first wrote I've spent more time contemplating each of the moving parts. I'm convinced that you got it right. thanks. As I looked at and moved the foot pedal I realized that it has two stops. The first appears to lower the drill heads and the second apears to raise the wood piece to the drill bits. Because it's a three phase motor and I don't have 3 phase power, I'll have to wait to see it in operation. By looking at the drill heads and how they're mounted, I can't imagine how they're not geared and wouldn't be surprised if they rotate in opposite directions. I'll look at the drill bits.

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02/22/2011 6:38 AM

It is clearly a multi spindle drill, but just what it is set up to do i can only guess. The two devices with the red tubing are work holding clamps, probably pneumatic.

I wish i was there to join in your fun!

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Re: Schleicher Maschinenbau

02/22/2011 2:22 PM

I just can't resist:

Turn it on and stand back - you will soon find out what it does, if anything without your input!

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